Bob_Loblaw
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Yeah, they say he isn't going to enter the portal but it seems like this impacts ZA more than Athan.If any, wouldn’t it be the older guys?
Yeah, they say he isn't going to enter the portal but it seems like this impacts ZA more than Athan.If any, wouldn’t it be the older guys?
Yep, Athan will just be a redshirt freshman next year. I am sure he would love to be starting but I also don't think he will have a tough time sitting behind a 6th year senior who is the winningest QB in the history of the program.Yeah, they say he isn't going to enter the portal but it seems like this impacts ZA more than Athan.
Can't imagine he wouldn't. I think his future is in coaching if he wants tooI know he doesn't owe it to any of them, but I hope by Morgan coming back he takes on the mentor, coach teaching role for the younger guys in the room. It is a gift to get to play a 6th season, I am hopeful with the kind of leader and player he has been that Morgan takes on that teacher role/ Jedi role of passing on knowledge.
With two or three guys with similar overall capabilities no one, including coaches, can say with 100% certainty who gives the best chance of winning on a certain day. You go with your best gut feeling.The only thing that should be Morgan off the field is if there is someone on the bench who gives us a better chance at winning. It's not about conservative or aggressive. That's the only test.
With two or three guys with similar overall capabilities no one, including coaches, can say with 100% certainty who gives the best chance of winning on a certain day. You go with your best gut feeling.
By now, Tanner clearly gets that edge because he has started and played almost every snap for three and a half years.
Some coaches, as I said, are much more willing to test more than one guy to see how he performs in battle, not practice. Fleck is more conservative in his overall approach to football and prefers to go with what he knows from game experience. That is his comfort zone.
Glad you agree.Of course not, no one is arguing that player assessment is an exact science. That doesn't change the fact that the only criteria in choosing a QB is who the staff thinks gives us a better chance to win football games next year.
Are they guaranteed to be right in that determination? Of course not.
We have a lot of holes in our line up next year as it is. I would rather have a new QB next year, so they get the experience and can lead us to a title in 23, rather than have them get their first starts in 23.Any Gopher fan not ecstatic with this news is bonkers. Experience and consistency are huge advantages in college football. Morgan already has the most wins of any Gopher quarterback in history, and some would rather go with an unknown? The odds of winning the West next year improve significantly with Morgan on the team.
2022 lineup holes are still tbd. Fleck did a great job finding transfer guys to step right in this year. Plus there are guys in the system we haven’t seen yet. Not a sure thing we take a step backwards.We have a lot of holes in our line up next year as it is. I would rather have a new QB next year, so they get the experience and can lead us to a title in 23, rather than have them get their first starts in 23.
Yup. This is why I respect the heck out of Annexstad already, and even more so if he stays next year. Not exactly in the mold of the 4 and 5* recruits you're describing, but is there any doubt he could be starting for numerous FBS teams right now?The Great Migration of formerly-heralded high school QBs to lower levels of play will only intensify and probably reach an absurd level before a natural equilibrium and cautionary tales emerge.
Look at poor Penn State. Their guy goes down to injury at Iowa and the backup is maybe the all time worst QB I’ve ever seen play meaningful minutes at the FBS level. They didn’t have anybody. That’s crazy. I think the urge or lure to play -at any level- will be irresistible for so many with the new transfer rules but I’ll yell at clouds anyway.
The 2019 "magic" was Bateman and Johnson bailing him out.At least one person speculated this yesterday when Morgan wasn't announced with the outgoing seniors. Hopefully he can find some of the 2019 magic.
Bateman and Johnson certainly made some spectacular catches but you are clearly just trolling here to try and claim it was all them and that Morgan had nothing to do with it.The 2019 "magic" was Bateman and Johnson bailing him out.
I am most disappointed in the lack of growth from Morgan. He set the bar with his 2019 season. Blame the OC or Fleck all you want but it's up to Tanner to continue to get better. He's as good anyone when his feet are set and the WR has separation but the second he gets pressured he's a below average passer.Seeing a lot of "Fire Sanford and Morgan will be better" takes. While Sanford leaves a lot to be desired as an OC, it's clear he and Fleck were on the same page for how the offense should be ran. Virtually very little changed over the course of the season, even after duds against Bowling Green and Illinois.
Would love to see Tanner improve upon his ability to identify defensive sets, make quicker progressions from his 1st to 2nd read, limit telegraphing throws, and throw a better ball 8+ yards down field. Even slight improvements in all of these areas could result in an extra win or two next season, especially with a healthy Mo/Ky Thomas backfield.
Really hope PJ has him on a shorter leash next season and gives other guys the opportunity to spark the offense when things stall. This was a 10+ win defense if not for the offensive shortcomings. Whether it's Sanford or somebody else, please implement a tempo offense to change things up to keep the defense on their toes, generate momentu, and/or be able to play from behind in the 2nd half.
It was brought up in another thread but there was a noticeable shift in the offense over the last two games, will be interesting to see if it carries over to the bowl game as well.Seeing a lot of "Fire Sanford and Morgan will be better" takes. While Sanford leaves a lot to be desired as an OC, it's clear he and Fleck were on the same page for how the offense should be ran. Virtually very little changed over the course of the season, even after duds against Bowling Green and Illinois.
Would love to see Tanner improve upon his ability to identify defensive sets, make quicker progressions from his 1st to 2nd read, limit telegraphing throws, and throw a better ball 8+ yards down field. Even slight improvements in all of these areas could result in an extra win or two next season, especially with a healthy Mo/Ky Thomas backfield.
Really hope PJ has him on a shorter leash next season and gives other guys the opportunity to spark the offense when things stall. This was a 10+ win defense if not for the offensive shortcomings. Whether it's Sanford or somebody else, please implement a tempo offense to change things up to keep the defense on their toes, generate momentu, and/or be able to play from behind in the 2nd half.
Seeing a lot of "Fire Sanford and Morgan will be better" takes. While Sanford leaves a lot to be desired as an OC, it's clear he and Fleck were on the same page for how the offense should be ran. Virtually very little changed over the course of the season, even after duds against Bowling Green and Illinois.
Would love to see Tanner improve upon his ability to identify defensive sets, make quicker progressions from his 1st to 2nd read, limit telegraphing throws, and throw a better ball 8+ yards down field. Even slight improvements in all of these areas could result in an extra win or two next season, especially with a healthy Mo/Ky Thomas backfield.
Really hope PJ has him on a shorter leash next season and gives other guys the opportunity to spark the offense when things stall. This was a 10+ win defense if not for the offensive shortcomings. Whether it's Sanford or somebody else, please implement a tempo offense to change things up to keep the defense on their toes, generate momentu, and/or be able to play from behind in the 2nd half.
here's a thought - and a prediction -
next season, in every Gopher game, the TV announcer will come up with this fun fact:
"Tanner Morgan is older than X# of current NFL Quarterbacks."
I haven't done the research, but I would suspect there will be at least several NFL QB's who will be younger than Morgan next year.
This is terrible and horrible news. Holy crap.
here's a thought - and a prediction -
next season, in every Gopher game, the TV announcer will come up with this fun fact:
"Tanner Morgan is older than X# of current NFL Quarterbacks."
I haven't done the research, but I would suspect there will be at least several NFL QB's who will be younger than Morgan next year.
Thats not true. Leidner could barely even throw the ball.Let's face it, Morgan as a passer was basically Mitch Leidner this year. I'd be fine with it if I thought there was going to be an open competition next year, or if PJ showed any willingness to sit him down in games when he's not playing well.
Lot of assumptions being made about the O-Line next year. There will be new faces but they aren't going to be totally raw or inexperienced. Shaw for example has multiple years as a starter under his belt, just not for us. Depending on who comes back there is going to be experience there as well as guys who have been learning and growing over the past few years which is what you want at O-Line.My feeling on Tanner Morgan is that he's somewhere in the 80th-90th percentile of college quarterbacks. You can argue if he should be considered closer to 90 or 80 but I think most would put him in that range. I'll take a guarantee of that along with the experience over whatever is behind door #2, I would like to see someone else get snaps so our next QB isn't totally raw, but that doesn't always work out.
My real concern for him coming back is for his legacy, he has a chance to go out on top as part of one season that was arguably the best in 50 years and finish his last season with a win against Wisconsin and a bowl appearance. If we lose our entire offensive line next year and next men up aren't close, he could be captaining the ship when it goes down. I'd rather see a new quarterback struggle with a new offensive line and carry that experience forward, than watch Tanner struggle with no protection or time and leave on a sour 5-7 type season.
If by some magic he can talk OL guys into staying, great. If not, ugh....