All Things Tubby Smith Thread UPDATED 5/27: Vince Taylor joins Tubby at TTech

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The national media is correct....he's a good coach. He will succeed at Texas Tech. Sounds like some solid schools want HIS former recruits Foster and Ellis. Izzo is after Ellis now!

Really?

Now you're arguing that Tubby was the first Gopher coach to win an NCAA tournament game?

It's fine to make arguments that "Tubby is a good coach", those are things that can't be refuted by evidence. However, the problem is that the statistical hard evidence does not support their opinion, so they make it up. Now, it appears as if you agree. Wow.
 

The national media is correct....he's a good coach. He will succeed at Texas Tech. Sounds like some solid schools want HIS former recruits Foster and Ellis. Izzo is after Ellis now!

And HIS former recruits really worked out well here! :rolleyes:
 

The national media is correct....he's a good coach. He will succeed at Texas Tech. Sounds like some solid schools want HIS former recruits Foster and Ellis. Izzo is after Ellis now!

He was a good coach who became lazy and started resting on his laurels. Hopefully, he can reignite the fire at Texas Tech! Very honorable man from everything you read, however.
 

The national media is correct....he's a good coach. He will succeed at Texas Tech. Sounds like some solid schools want HIS former recruits Foster and Ellis. Izzo is after Ellis now!

You are clearly anti-Pitino. Therefore, no jumping on the bandwagon midway through the season when he is successful since your stance is unequivocal.
 

You are clearly anti-Pitino. Therefore, no jumping on the bandwagon midway through the season when he is successful since your stance is unequivocal.

Not true - Nothing against Pitino. Just standing up to Gopherholers that find the need to bash Tubby. Tubby had a lot of bad breaks while he was here....he's still a good coach.
 


Not true - Nothing against Pitino. Just standing up to Gopherholers that find the need to bash Tubby. Tubby had a lot of bad breaks while he was here....he's still a good coach.

A good coach doesn't need people making excuses for him.

Tubby seems like a good guy. He's not an elite coach anymore. If he was...he'd still be coach of the Gophers and we'd have a B1G championship banner to put up on the rafters.

It's theoretically possible that Pitino is the second coming of Tim Brewster, but we'll just have to see. Pitino has done nothing to deserve any accolades or any negative comments. However, I don't blame anyone for being excited about a new coach and a new sense of hope for the future. People had the same air of joy and hope when Tubby was hired 6 years ago.
 

A good coach doesn't need people making excuses for him.

Tubby seems like a good guy. He's not an elite coach anymore. If he was...he'd still be coach of the Gophers and we'd have a B1G championship banner to put up on the rafters.

It's theoretically possible that Pitino is the second coming of Tim Brewster, but we'll just have to see.

Agreed. Definitely true that Pitino could be just as ineffective as Tim Brewster, however Pitino and Brewster diverged in the messages they sent right off the bat. Brewster was immediately touting end goals of "Rose Bowl, homeboy" right when he was hired, coming in with a gust of hot air whether it be his helicopter recruiting or the patch of Pasadena grass he kept in his office. There was all show no substance.

The encouraging aspect of immediate impressions Pitino gave is he was very much more substantive touting the 'hard work', day-by-day philosophy that is more similar to Jerry Kill. However at the same time, unlike Kill, Pitino has also made sure that there is high ambition to guide the diligent work ethic Pitino sating those that were tired with this program settling for mediocrity as a high water mark. His back-ended remarks of "sky is the limit [at the U]" along with suggesting, after seeing Louisville win the title, that now it's his turn to get Minnesota there - are all comments that show at Pitino gets it on the micro and macro level of leading a program.

Personally, I actually have no doubt there is potential to see next-level success from this program even Clem hadn't even seen before. I believe that because honestly, that's how success is built in anything, in someone's life or institutionally, everyday hard-work mixed with the guiding path of wise ambition. Only thing I'm concerned about is how well does Richard have his game day coaching down? In interviews he mentioned early in the FIU season he was uneasy with what kind of coach he'd be on the sidelines. While he said he eventually found his own rhythm, wonder how secure Richard is with it, or will the brighter Big Ten lights engender some uncertainty from him? Only real concern.
 

Agreed. Definitely true that Pitino could be just as ineffective as Tim Brewster, however Pitino and Brewster diverged in the messages they sent right off the bat. Brewster was immediately touting end goals of "Rose Bowl, homeboy" right when he was hired, coming in with a gust of hot air whether it be his helicopter recruiting or the patch of Pasadena grass he kept in his office. There was all show no substance.

The encouraging aspect of immediate impressions Pitino gave is he was very much more substantive touting the 'hard work', day-by-day philosophy that is more similar to Jerry Kill. However at the same time, unlike Kill, Pitino has also made sure that there is high ambition to guide the diligent work ethic Pitino sating those that were tired with this program settling for mediocrity as a high water mark. His back-ended remarks of "sky is the limit [at the U]" along with suggesting, after seeing Louisville win the title, that now it's his turn to get Minnesota there - are all comments that show at Pitino gets it on the micro and macro level of leading a program.

Personally, I actually have no doubt there is potential to see next-level success from this program even Clem hadn't even seen before. I believe that because honestly, that's how success is built in anything, in someone's life or institutionally, everyday hard-work mixed with the guiding path of wise ambition. Only thing I'm concerned about is how well does Richard have his game day coaching down? In interviews he mentioned early in the FIU season he was uneasy with what kind of coach he'd be on the sidelines. While he said he eventually found his own rhythm, wonder how secure Richard is with it, or will the brighter Big Ten lights engender some uncertainty from him? Only real concern.

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Not true - Nothing against Pitino. Just standing up to Gopherholers that find the need to bash Tubby. Tubby had a lot of bad breaks while he was here....he's still a good coach.

For his stature in coaching he was pretty bad as a coach.
 



"Definitely true that Pitino could be just as ineffective as Tim Brewster, however Pitino and Brewster diverged in the messages they sent right off the bat."

You have to think Pitino learned from Brewster's excesses and sandbagged rather than over-promised at his introduction.
 

"Definitely true that Pitino could be just as ineffective as Tim Brewster, however Pitino and Brewster diverged in the messages they sent right off the bat."

You have to think Pitino learned from Brewster's excesses and sandbagged rather than over-promised at his introduction.

You and I make these comparisons between coaches, but my bet is that their confidence level (ego?) has them not giving a hoot about what anyone did in the past, and they are going to do it their way because they think they can and will succeed with their own methods. If his dad reminded him of the need for humility and he has learned it at 30, he is making the statements he is because of who he is and not a blowhard salesman prior football coach.
 

"Definitely true that Pitino could be just as ineffective as Tim Brewster, however Pitino and Brewster diverged in the messages they sent right off the bat."

You have to think Pitino learned from Brewster's excesses and sandbagged rather than over-promised at his introduction.

It's more likely that Pitino learned this from growing up and working under successful coaches. Are we sure that he even knows who Tim Brewster is ?
 

It's more likely that Pitino learned this from growing up and working under successful coaches. Are we sure that he even knows who Tim Brewster is ?


Yeah, you're probably right. No reason why he'd have been briefed on Gopher coaching history as far back as two years ago.
 



Yeah, you're probably right. No reason why he'd have been briefed on Gopher coaching history as far back as two years ago.

You think he was following Gopher FB while coaching all over in the south? I would be willing to wager there is a better chance he has no idea about Brewster vs taking lessons on what not to do from him...
 

You think he was following Gopher FB while coaching all over in the south? I would be willing to wager there is a better chance he has no idea about Brewster vs taking lessons on what not to do from him...

"The race is not always to the swift -- nor the battle to the strong -- but that's the way to bet." Damon Runyon
 

@KSANsports: Former Angelo State Men's Basketball Coach, Joe Esposito, is expected to join Tubby Smith's staff at Texas Tech

Go Gophers!!
 


Makes sense. He's got Texas connections and is a decent bottom tier assistant because of his scheduling expertise.
 

The Mexican food and BBQ in Texas will not be good for Joe's health.
 


Stopped in a Texas Tech forum to see a progress report. Things are not pretty. If that site is accurate- Esposito is Tubby's first staff pickup. ?? At any rate- there is ten times the action going on here with our new coach in both staff activity and recruiting efforts. We have a whole staff out there on the road now and it looks like Tubby hasn't unpacked yet. Could be wrong but that's the impression I get. Thank you coach Pitino!
 

Stopped in a Texas Tech forum to see a progress report. Things are not pretty. If that site is accurate- Esposito is Tubby's first staff pickup. ?? At any rate- there is ten times the action going on here with our new coach in both staff activity and recruiting efforts. We have a whole staff out there on the road now and it looks like Tubby hasn't unpacked yet. Could be wrong but that's the impression I get. Thank you coach Pitino!
Looked there a week ago and they got some guy named Pooh as an assistant.
 

Stopped in a Texas Tech forum to see a progress report. Things are not pretty. If that site is accurate- Esposito is Tubby's first staff pickup. ?? At any rate- there is ten times the action going on here with our new coach in both staff activity and recruiting efforts. We have a whole staff out there on the road now and it looks like Tubby hasn't unpacked yet. Could be wrong but that's the impression I get. Thank you coach Pitino!

Speaking of letting things go. Are you afraid that he will do well in TT and you will be sorry for all the bashing? Tubby has learned from his mistakes here so he is very careful about his moves. He got Williams from TCU who is a very good recruiter in Texas. Jo has had good coaching career in Texas also. Alex Foster is visiting TT this weekend. What you hear on their website is like what you could hear on this board 6 years ago. Tubby will raise the bar there as he did here.

Go Gophers
 

Speaking of letting things go. Are you afraid that he will do well in TT and you will be sorry for all the bashing? Tubby has learned from his mistakes here so he is very careful about his moves. He got Williams from TCU who is a very good recruiter in Texas. Jo has had good coaching career in Texas also. Alex Foster is visiting TT this weekend. What you hear on their website is like what you could hear on this board 6 years ago. Tubby will raise the bar there as he did here.

Go Gophers

Go away.
 


Let me translate what he was trying to say...

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Speaking of letting things go. Are you afraid that he will do well in TT and you will be sorry for all the bashing? Tubby has learned from his mistakes here so he is very careful about his moves. He got Williams from TCU who is a very good recruiter in Texas. Jo has had good coaching career in Texas also. Alex Foster is visiting TT this weekend. What you hear on their website is like what you could hear on this board 6 years ago. Tubby will raise the bar there as he did here.

Go Gophers

I can only speak for myself. I'm deathly afraid Tubby will do well in Lubbock; in fact, I'm paralyzed with fear.

I wasn't aware that Tubby made any mistakes here. What would you say they were?
 

Speaking of letting things go. Are you afraid that he will do well in TT and you will be sorry for all the bashing? Tubby has learned from his mistakes here so he is very careful about his moves. He got Williams from TCU who is a very good recruiter in Texas. Jo has had good coaching career in Texas also. Alex Foster is visiting TT this weekend. What you hear on their website is like what you could hear on this board 6 years ago. Tubby will raise the bar there as he did here.

Go Gophers

I'm a Gopher fan TRT. I'm not against Tubby - not one bit. I hope he has great success. I visited that site not to post but rather to take a look at what fans down there see happening since Tubby arrived. For me - it's a way of benchmarking how Pitino might give this program more energy. I am pleased to say that the difference in activity leads me to think that Pitino will give us the effort a lot of us feel had been missing. Seriously- best of luck to Tubby and you.
 

I can only speak for myself. I'm deathly afraid Tubby will do well in Lubbock; in fact, I'm paralyzed with fear.

I wasn't aware that Tubby made any mistakes here. What would you say they were?

I have said many times. Please check my other posts.
 

I'm a Gopher fan TRT. I'm not against Tubby - not one bit. I hope he has great success. I visited that site not to post but rather to take a look at what fans down there see happening since Tubby arrived. For me - it's a way of benchmarking how Pitino might give this program more energy. I am pleased to say that the difference in activity leads me to think that Pitino will give us the effort a lot of us feel had been missing. Seriously- best of luck to Tubby and you.

The reason that I said that was because every time a person makes the smallest comment about Tubby 10 people jump on it and say let it go. I am not sure why the other way around would be wrong. You guys need to let it go too. People in Texas are a lot less excited about Tubby as people are here about Richard. There are several reasons for that. 1. He just got fired 2. Richard is young and a much better salesman 3. Their fans come here and read posts about Tubby and how bad he was. Tubby and Richard will have a lot of fun next year. Expectations in both schools are low. I don't have to prove it to you or anybody here, I am a Gopher and Tubby fan. I will cheer for both.

Go Gophers and Go Tubby
 

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