WOW, Brew has BIG WORDS for BB after the game

[Sparlimb]

Brewster shot his mouth of from day one. Bielema is just letting know who Daddy is. The better move is to not care. But Brew has not known how to handle himself or his program since he arrived.

Ironic how so many on here had no problem with Westbrook's late dunk. For the record, I didn't care then, nor do I now. Stop the opponent, or shut up.

You guys should be thankful. Brett is doing his part to try to get you a new coach.

I have to agree. BB may be a dickwad, but he still owns Punky. And its not like we can fall any lower as fans. I certainly wouldn't put dickwad's going for 2 as worse than losing to South Dakota. Shut your trap and beat Wisconsin. Instead you look like a drunk crying over spilled milk. Thankfully we won't have to put up with Punky again after this year.

 

[GoForGold]

Seriously, BB tried to "run up the score" by 1 point because he is scared about what might happen in 5 years? You really believe that?

On the other hand, why go for one more point if you think the game is safely put away? You don't need the coaching card, or whatever it's called, if you have the game in the bag. Either way these two coaches look like insecure jerks. I'll be happy when both of these guys are out of the Big Ten coaching ranks.

 

[glovedgopher]

Bielema may be actually telling the truth. It would mean he is completely clueless and really didn't recognize what everyone else did, that going for 2 at that time would be considered running up the score. Sort of like a guy who takes a piss off his front porch every morning and wonders why the neighbors think it's a problem, "doesn't everyone do that?".

Wisconsin was also up by 25 when the score was 34-9. Right? Bielema should have manned up like DiNardo said in the first place. Hell, I can't find a chart the goes past 20. Both coaches look like d-bags.

 

[Costa Rican Gopher]

Bielema is just letting know who Daddy is.

I actually admired (as sick as it makes me to admit it) them going for 2. I thought "What balls!" BB sent a message to Brew today & it was PAINFUL! If the shoe were on the other foot though & we were rick-rolling the Badgers today at their homecoming & Brew went for 2 up by 25 in the 4th, I would have said "sh*t yeah, in your face BB!".

The problem I have is IF he's letting Brew "know who his Daddy is", why not SAY THAT! Say "I ran it up on him today because I don't like him & if he doesn't like it, his team can beat us for a change....if he's even around next year!". That's where the "I'm your Daddy" crap crumbles & a gutless bi*ch move ensues.

 

[Ogee Ogilthorpe]

Simple

It's pretty simple really.

There are reasons that BB is where he's at with Wisconsin right now and there are reasons Tressel, Ferentz, JoePa, and even now Dantonio are where they are at. Character does matter.

With how Barry left the program, and the coaching staff (mainly Paul Chryst) he left there to babysit him, if BB were any coach at all Wisconsin would be better today than they are.

Enjoy the view, Bret. It's not going to change any time soon... There's nothing wrong with being the 4th or 5th best team in the conference (until Nebraska gets to the BT), it's a position that several BT programs, including the Gophers right now, would love to be in.


It doesn't really matter if you think going for 2 was right or wrong. By doing so, you've prompted people to have an opinion of you that they may not have had before. By doing nothing, you don't bring that kind of attention upon yourself and your program.


The in-state recruiting comment, the BS in the Penn State game before halftime a few years back, the 2-pt attempt, et al; For most people, it wouldn't be hard to see this stuff as funny, amusing and creative. But the fact is, as the head football coach you represent your University and BB will probably learn at some point that discretion is the better part of valor.

 

[zman]

I actually admired (as sick as it makes me to admit it) them going for 2. I thought "What balls!" BB sent a message to Brew today & it was PAINFUL! If the shoe were on the other foot though & we were rick-rolling the Badgers today at their homecoming & Brew went for 2 up by 25 in the 4th, I would have said "sh*t yeah, in your face BB!".

The problem I have is IF he's letting Brew "know who his Daddy is", why not SAY THAT! Say "I ran it up on him today because I don't like him & if he doesn't like it, his team can beat us for a change....if he's even around next year!". That's where the "I'm your Daddy" crap crumbles & a gutless bi*ch move ensues.

+1

 

[justthefacts]

I don't think you can use both JoePa and Dantonio to make your example. One is having a pretty mediocre season whereas normally the school is quite good. One his having a very good season whereas normally the school is quite mediocre. If one is a trend the other is as well. If one is a fluke, the other is as well.

Les Miles must be one of the worst game coaches in the universe. You cannot watch his games and think otherwise. Yet he's done a lot of winning. The simple fact is that some schools have natural advantages in terms of history and recruiting bases that mean those teams will likely never fall below other teams permanently. In the current Big 10 those teams are Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State. Michigan is down now but will surely come back, although RR may have to be booted to make it happen. There are probably no coaches in the America that would have Wisconsin (or Minnesota) ahead of those 3 schools on a consistent basis.

I'll give you Ferentz. He's a fantastic coach, better than Bielema. But he's better than 98% of the coaches in D1 so that's not really too damning. And when was the last Rose Bowl Ferentz went to?

It's a mistake to say that only BB could have have the UW program where it is. After Barry won 2 Rose Bowls his teams went 9-4, 5-7, 8-6, 7-6, 9-3, 10-3. The simple fact is that you can't look at Bielema and say that his poor coaching is why they don't win 7 games in the B10 every year. There's absolutely no evidence to back that up.

There are reasons that BB is where he's at with Wisconsin right now and there are reasons Tressel, Ferentz, JoePa, and even now Dantonio are where they are at. Character does matter.

With how Barry left the program, and the coaching staff (mainly Paul Chryst) he left there to babysit him, if BB were any coach at all Wisconsin would be better today than they are.

 

[emann]

If I'm the coach next year, I put that play on a roll and let the players watch it over and over again -- until they understand what this guy thinks about Minnesota. If they don't start to get fired up from that, they are never going to have the pride or chip on the shoulder needed to play division one football for a fringe bowl team.

 

[caliGopher]

Bielema may be actually telling the truth. It would mean he is completely clueless and really didn't recognize what everyone else did, that going for 2 at that time would be considered running up the score. Sort of like a guy who takes a piss off his front porch every morning and wonders why the neighbors think it's a problem, "doesn't everyone do that?".

wait, you guys don't do that, too? No wonder my neighbors all don't talk to me...


This is a string of violent agreement. The move was classless. What else do we expect from Brett "Summer's Eve" Bielema? All the way down to his refusal to call it what is was, which is fine and as Dinardo said -- a long history of schools doing that in the Big Ten with the Woody Hayes quote about running up the score on that school from up north.

My bigger question is why BB had the Badgers team take a nap in the 2nd Quarter? At least that kept us in it until after halftime.

I don't have a problem with Brew giving him the what for after the game, probably the only thing that he did yesterday that was HC like.

 

[Bayfieldgopher]

BB threw the ball 6 or 7 straight times the last minute of the first half against Austin Peay or some helpless opponent while ahead like 41-3.

What does that tell you other than what he would tell you?

 

[caliGopher]

"I told him I didn't agree with his decision and I thought it was a poor decision for a head football coach," Brewster said. "He'll have to live with it. It was wrong. Everybody in here knows it and everybody in college football knows it. It was wrong."

It was a DB move and all, but I doubt many are or will be consulting Tim Brewster on head football coaching decisions.

Don't suck so bad and this doesn't happen.

If this is truly what Brewster said, I give BB a huge amount of credit for not falling down laughing at him making a suggestion he has any idea how to make decisions as a head coach.

 

[BigTenfan]

I can't believe you guys are judging a man's entire character because he tried for 1 (ONE) extra point that your team kept him from getting.

And who knows he may have done the Gophers a favor. If they face a team in the future going or two when it matters, at least they have had the practice and confidence that they have stopped it before. And we all know they can't have too much confidence right now in anything else.

I'm not sure why there is this unwritten rule in football that says going for 3, 6, or 1 point is ok but going for 2 is wrong unless the one point makes a difference in the game. What if after scoring the touchdown, BB would have said - we have this game locked up and the extra point doesn't matter so we'll just kick off now. He'd be crucified for being a cocky SOB! So he HAS to go for one in your minds. But if he goes for 2 he's a cocky SOB! BB actually gave more credit to your team than you guys do!

 

[BigTenfan]

BB threw the ball 6 or 7 straight times the last minute of the first half against Austin Peay or some helpless opponent while ahead like 41-3.

What does that tell you other than what he would tell you?

You bring up an interesting question - and that is who to blame for the kids getting their butts kicked in these non-conference games - or does it matter.

The administration of schools like Austin Peay schedule these games because it makes their athletic department a lot of money. The coaches are probably all for that and it is a good challenge for them. Ask the players and I bet the majority of them are excited for the experience of playing in a big stadium at a top program in front of that many fans. They take the risk of getting embarrassed because the payoff in their opinion is worth it.

So is it the other team's head coach's job to not run his game plan after 1 1/2 quarters because the other team can't keep up? Maybe. Maybe he shouldn't allow a team that can't keep up to play against him and schedule tougher opponents instead. One problem of that can be that games are schedule years out and programs that might be "ok" one year are really bad a couple years later.
But if bigger schools didn't ever schedule the smaller schools, the smaller schools never get a chance to make more money for their programs and experience the big stage and national exposure.

There is a lot more that goes in to that then just blaming the big schools head coach though.

Now when it comes to Big Ten rivalry games - all bets are off.

 

[50PoundHead]

It's pretty simple really.

There are reasons that BB is where he's at with Wisconsin right now and there are reasons Tressel, Ferentz, JoePa, and even now Dantonio are where they are at. Character does matter.

With how Barry left the program, and the coaching staff (mainly Paul Chryst) he left there to babysit him, if BB were any coach at all Wisconsin would be better today than they are.

Enjoy the view, Bret. It's not going to change any time soon... There's nothing wrong with being the 4th or 5th best team in the conference (until Nebraska gets to the BT), it's a position that several BT programs, including the Gophers right now, would love to be in.


It doesn't really matter if you think going for 2 was right or wrong. By doing so, you've prompted people to have an opinion of you that they may not have had before. By doing nothing, you don't bring that kind of attention upon yourself and your program.


The in-state recruiting comment, the BS in the Penn State game before halftime a few years back, the 2-pt attempt, et al; For most people, it wouldn't be hard to see this stuff as funny, amusing and creative. But the fact is, as the head football coach you represent your University and BB will probably learn at some point that discretion is the better part of valor.

Great points Ogee. I love Bo Pelini as a coach, but he's got Dr. Tom babysitting him. Bielema is a good coach, but he's got Barry A. babysitting him. One of the things I fault Maturi for is not babysitting Brewster to a greater extent. I would be curious to know if Alvarez says anything behind the scenes to Bielema. Barry could be a bit on the smug side, but the guy is all class on the field.

Bigtenfan, there is a right and wrong way to play the game. I think that's all I am saying. The going for 2, while allowed, was really a display of poor sportsmanship and the card excuse was a display of cowardice.

 

[50PoundHead]

BB threw the ball 6 or 7 straight times the last minute of the first half against Austin Peay or some helpless opponent while ahead like 41-3.

What does that tell you other than what he would tell you?

That doesn't bother me as much as the 2-point bit though. What happened against Austin Peay happened within the confines of the game action. I can see teams wanting to run as many different plays or getting guys down the depth chart a chance at both action and stats. That's part of building a football team. I wouldn't have minded as much yesterday if Bielema would have run up another touchdown or two if it had been done within the normal flow of the game.

The 2-point bit was, if not a totally different animal, a more focused attempt to shove something up or down one of Brewster's orifices.

 

[old gringo]

How I feel

In a bitter rivalry football game one team was up by 40 points and just scored another touchdown with a minute to go. They went for 2. After the game an irate sideline commentator asked the coach given the circumstance why did he go for 2.
The coach replied because they won't let me go for three!

 

[reggieholt]

The in-state recruiting comment, the BS in the Penn State game before halftime a few years back, the 2-pt attempt, et al; For most people, it wouldn't be hard to see this stuff as funny, amusing and creative. But the fact is, as the head football coach you represent your University and BB will probably learn at some point that discretion is the better part of valor.

Ogee, I couldn't agree with you more - especially your comment about being discreet. He's getting too old to keep pulling that stuff; one step forward, five steps back.

Also, I'm sure BB would say that he was only trying to highlight the absurdity of the kick-off rule with his antics during the PSU game, but IMO the net-result was that he disrespected the game and JoePa in the process.

 

[50PoundHead]

In a bitter rivalry football game one team was up by 40 points and just scored another touchdown with a minute to go. They went for 2. After the game an irate sideline commentator asked the coach given the circumstance why did he go for 2.
The coach replied because they won't let me go for three!

I believe that was Woody Hayes who said that. The same Woody Hayes who cold-cocked an opposing player running down the sidelines and tore up the down markers when a call went against him. Yeah, Woody's the epitome of sportsmanship and someone every fan base should want their coach to emulate.

 

[GhostofBronko]

If I'm the coach next year, I put that play on a roll and let the players watch it over and over again -- until they understand what this guy thinks about Minnesota. If they don't start to get fired up from that, they are never going to have the pride or chip on the shoulder needed to play division one football for a fringe bowl team.

Should they loop the part where the Badgers took a knee twice to end the game?

The idea that a 2pc attempt was "running up the score" is delusional. The idea that this is some sort of enormous insult is even more delusional. The most likely reason was it was practice. Now, is Bielema going to say? -- "hey, just wanted to give the boys a little work on the 2pc game against a team that's marginally better than our practice squad."? No way, although it would have been hilarious to see Timmy's reaction. Arguably worse than RUTS, and/or as a personal affront to Timmy and the boys.

If going for a 2pc was so egregious, if, -- to quote Timmy -- "everybody in college football knows ... it was wrong," then the best thing for him to do would have been STFU and wait for the inevitable criticism to flow down on Bielema's head. Instead he chose mewl like a 12 year old girl and make himself look like a big puss. "Bret won't stop picking on me!"

No one made you say that ridiculous crap about "being the first to run across the field to grab the axe." No one made you talk crap about Bielema at this year's Big Ten meeting in Chicago. Who knows what other stuff you've said out of the public eye. Please Timmy, give me one reason that BB should treat you with any respect.

Oh, and please, please, please knock off the "chip on the shoulder" baloney. If preventing Wisconsin from winning the Axe eight years in a row isn't motivation enough, watching a tape-loop of a failed 2pc isn't going to make a difference.

 

[Seany]

This whole argument over the two point conversion attempt just sort of sidetracks from what the real issue *should* be, which is that we got our butts beaten once again.

 

[BigTenfan]

That doesn't bother me as much as the 2-point bit though. What happened against Austin Peay happened within the confines of the game action. I can see teams wanting to run as many different plays or getting guys down the depth chart a chance at both action and stats. That's part of building a football team. I wouldn't have minded as much yesterday if Bielema would have run up another touchdown or two if it had been done within the normal flow of the game.

The 2-point bit was, if not a totally different animal, a more focused attempt to shove something up or down one of Brewster's orifices.

Please understand this 50Pound, going for two IS in the confines of the game! Going for two IS part of wanting to run as many different plays to build your football team! Do you find it unrealistic they might have to go for two in a game that matters at some point this season? I can not for the life of me understand how you think 14 more points would have been ok but 1 more point was this huge insult that is worth judging a man's character on.

 

[50PoundHead]

Please understand this 50Pound, going for two IS in the confines of the game! Going for two IS part of wanting to run as many different plays to build your football team! Do you find it unrealistic they might have to go for two in a game that matters at some point this season? I can not for the life of me understand how you think 14 more points would have been ok but 1 more point was this huge insult that is worth judging a man's character on.

We'll just have to agree to disagree. It was a thumb in the eye and if you can't see that, you're living on another planet. It was classless.

 

[justthefacts]

Ogee, I couldn't agree with you more - especially your comment about being discreet. He's getting too old to keep pulling that stuff; one step forward, five steps back.

Also, I'm sure BB would say that he was only trying to highlight the absurdity of the kick-off rule with his antics during the PSU game, but IMO the net-result was that he disrespected the game and JoePa in the process.

You realize that going offside during the kickoff several times ended up running out the clock therefore preventing PSU from having a chance to return it and score? There is absolutely no way to view that other than being pretty darn clever.

 

[mike-ike]

As a coach, I am speaking from experience here. This is probably what BB was thinking, for I have done the same.

1) We will not see this coach again
2) At some point this year, we will need a 2 pt conversion.
3) This is as good as practice, lets get some experience for the players
4) (I don't think UW did this), but I have also done this to show something new/unexpected to make upcoming opponents waste time in practice prepping for it.

Then again maybe he was being a dick, but oh well. These guys don't get paid to care about how the other coaches or players feel about themselves. This isn't the MSHSL where everyone needs to get a trophy and feel good.

 

[BigTenfan]

We'll just have to agree to disagree. It was a thumb in the eye and if you can't see that, you're living on another planet. It was classless.

You believe that 14 points is ok, but 1 point is "classless" running up the score. On my planet math is on my side.

 

[50PoundHead]

mike-ike, I won't disagree with your logic, but that was just about the lamest two-point attempt I have ever seen. It's similar to a play Wisconsin runs from the 2-yard-line with some measure of regularity. They weren't showing anyone anything.

Big10Fan, here's the deal. Bielema's "card" read the same number at 11:55 in the 4th quarter as it did 6:39. If the "card" dictated going for 2 after the last TD, why didn't it produce a similar strategy from Bielema at the beginning of the 4th quarter. It was plain and simply a thumb in the eye and all you guys who want to manufacture some lame-butt excuse for Bielema's action, keep it up. I just think you're dead wrong and if Bielema had any guts at all, he'd 'fess up.

 

[50PoundHead]

You believe that 14 points is ok, but 1 point is "classless" running up the score. On my planet math is on my side.

I can probably whip your ass in math and I'd rather live on Planet Class anyway.

 

[mike-ike]

I didn't really see what they ran, and I only have seen a handful of Wisconsin games. So if what they ran was same as usual, they should have called something unusual. This cookie cutter crap is one reason why the big ten gets their tails kicked when they play other conferences in big time games.

 

[kellyleeks]

I am pretty certain that a sign of a sh!tty program is when the fans take time away from discussing the firing of a coach midseason to discuss whether it was classless for the opponent, in a sense, to have taunted us when destroying us versus just destroying us.

Another sign of a down and out program may be naming a message board after national titles won, when for all intensive purposes only white athletes were on the field.

While I enjoy Gopher football and travel back to almost all of the games, it is times like these that I am glad that I live on the East Coast.

 

[50PoundHead]

Good points Mr. Leeks.