I have a hard time envisioning the CFP encroaching on an NFL Thursday, though I guess it's possible.
Especially if SEC #2 already has 2 or 3 losses. Another in the SEC Championship, would likely mean out of the CFP entirely.
100% agree. Big deal on those early season matchups they hyped up. Herbstreit telling people before the USC/LSU game that a loss doesn't hurt your team's chances of getting the bye was all I needed to hear.
LSU rode that quality loss in the rankings for SO LONG...
This is the best thing ever said on GH. I've thought this forever.
They don't mean a thing if you finish top 2 in your conference. If not in the top two in conference, then it matters because they will forget about it being meaningless and come back to it on selection Sunday.
It sounds like you’re in favor of some teams getting a bye. I am not, mainly because it usually gives the better teams an extra weeks rest to heal and game plan, which is a decided advantage for the better teams. Just go to 16 teams with no byes. If the conference winners have automatic top seeding, that might be a compromise.
There have been games at the same time as nfl during bowl season.
I like the Byes to give more reward and meaning to the regular season in general and the Conference Championships specifically. Without them, college football turns more like basketball where the regular season is pretty much devoid of intrigue.
Games (even Group of 6 Bowls) sure, but Playoffs I am sure they are looking for exclusivity.
Pay something, sure, but enough to warrant the dollars required to expand the field, knowing they have to go head to head with the NFL or overlap broadcast windows?
I think it's unlikely a SEC championship game loser will be left out. The SEC is largely to blame for this by only playing 8 conference games. If they play 9 like everyone else, they wouldn't be as jumbled up in the top half. They'd have less 2 loss teams.In something that was obviously predictable, several SEC Coaches are signaling that they would probably be better off if their team does NOT make it to the SEC Title Game in the current system, which includes a BYE.
Lane Kiffin: SEC Championship Game reward not worth risk of missing CFP field
Lane Kiffin said what most every Georgia fan — and possibly, the Bulldogs head coach — has been thinking where this year’s SEC Championship Game is concerned.www.dawgnation.com
Playing schedules without round robins built within them is really what’s to blame for all of this.
And the B1G could do 9 teams + 1 game for 9 games.
Not to argue but Penn State has a tougher schedule than Indiana without the OSU game by a decent margin.
I was just looking at the remaining schedule of the top 6 teams in the SEC. There's only one game between them (Texas vs Texas A&M) the rest of the way. There's a really good shot all of those 6 teams end with 2 or fewer losses.
Yeah. But the round robin guarantees it.
The less conference games, the less losses that occur. Of course that could be Texas' additional game. But the chances are pretty good that there are less <2 loss teams in the SEC with one more conference game.
Not sure I follow the math here. If they remove one of the cupcakes, where all SEC teams are likely to go a combined 16-0, and replace it with another conference game, where the SEC would collectively go 8-8, and that would make things LESS jumbled?
Not as many teams bunched together at the top with a chance to make the playoffs. It would be more jumbled in the middle more than likely like the Big Ten is. The less conference games, the less games involving two of the top teams.
If you add one more game for everyone and all the teams with a tough schedule draw another tough game and all the teams with an easy schedule an easy game…the spread is bigger
they're all biased. SOR also is biased though understandably less so given it incorporates performance on the field (efficiency metrics, etc), however they also incorporate 4 seasons of prior results (citing that Vegas does this in making their lines), returning starters/coaches, recruiting class rankings. In reality, all of these sets of data are incomplete until the season ends. Indiana's metrics suck right now because their opponents have been mediocre thus far but they've obliterated many of them so their efficiency is good and their game control is remarkably good (#2). Which one do you weight more? Getting on some soapbox now prior to all the results coming in is going to be inherently flawed as the data is incomplete. Things like FPI are probably pretty damn accurate within a conference because you have vastly more data amongst those teams to compared H2H in terms of efficiencies and control. However the SEC only has 2 teams outside the top 36 in FPI. The Big Ten has 7 outside the top 50. Yet LSU is #20 and USC is #54 in spite of that H2H result because the conferences only played 3 times this year (Bama shit kicking WI and TX stomping MI, both of whom are in the doldrums of B10 this year as we all know) and so we've put a ton of stock in that we think the SEC is a better conference this year.
Turns out the NFL will be heading to head this year with the CFP.
