Pros and Cons with the new playoff system

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I can’t remember the last time I watched a game outside of the gophers. Used be top ten early season matchups would be like mini title games, we’d all tune in to see which team would suffer a major blow to their title chances. Now teams don’t even care about strength of schedule even though a single loss means very little.
 

Ope3 said:
I don't think I would be in favor of it either, but part of what was discussed is these Top 4 Seeds might want a Home game, as the 5-8 seeds will get currently.

Also this year, what if Oregon somehow went 9-0 this year, beat Ohio State already and is then forced to beat them again in the Conference Championship? The Buckeyes could even have potentially 2 Conference losses. Ohio St would have to beat Indiana lose to Michigan, and also have the Nits & Hoosiers drop another game, so it's not a rather likely scenario.

That would seem unfair too.
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I don’t think the home game is as big a deal as compared to advancing further in the cfp in terms of revenue. Fun for fans but doubt the schools care much.

Agreed on the whole way they structure of how we get conference champs at this point but there’s not a great way to do it
 

upnorthkid said:
the conferences are now too big for this unless you're going to start the season earlier/shorten regular season games. you still need a CC and there's too many options where multiple end up undefeated (and then how do you decide who gets the higher seeding not to mention wins the conference which is also important to players and fans). The end all be all is not just the playoffs in CFB. We need to stop making it like it needs to be just like the NFL as there's too many teams and you'll just end up continually adding (I have no desire to watch a 1v16 matchup that's going to be a blowout between a mediocre MAC or CUSA champion at 10-2 who will get obliterated by Oregon the same as I don't need to see the 4th best B10 team sneak into a playoff (you had your shot in the regular season).
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Eliminate the four byes?
 

upnorthkid said:
I don’t think the home game is as big a deal as compared to advancing further in the cfp in terms of revenue. Fun for fans but doubt the schools care much.

Agreed on the whole way they structure of how we get conference champs at this point but there’s not a great way to do it
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Maybe the home game is not that big of a deal, but we haven't seen one yet, so don't really know yet.

Just a for an example though let's use this year's Oregon again and assume that they win out through November. To get a ticket to the Quarters they would then have to beat likely Ohio St or Indiana in Indianapolis.

Eliminate the Conference Championship and byes, as a #1 seed they would play someone like Ole Miss in Eugene instead. Sounds like more than a fair trade.
 



pk2 said:
Conference$ will never tra$h their champion$hip game$. I’m not $ure of their rea$on$, though.
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If they get more dough by eliminating them, they would.

Currently the Big 10 has to divvy up the proceeds 18 ways (Oregon & Washington get a haircut). I don't think it's really move the needle money by much on a per team basis.

FOX might prefer (and pay more) getting the rights to a 1st round game instead.
 

Should have been 8 teams.

In the past, numbers 5 or 6 may have had an argument, but I’ll be shocked if any team 9 or above win a single game, and then they’ll expand to 16 teams and it will be a shit show.
 

Unregistered User said:
Should have been 8 teams.

In the past, numbers 5 or 6 may have had an argument, but I’ll be shocked if any team 9 or above win a single game, and then they’ll expand to 16 teams and it will be a shit show.
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You would honestly be shocked if #9 beats #8 or #10 beats #7?

Obviously sight unseen right now, but teams ranked that close, the Vegas point spread could easily be less a FG. Heck, it's totally plausible the road team could be favored.
 

Ope3 said:
I will backtrack on a possibility of a 16 Team field coming to fruition, but the trade-off would likely be eliminating the Conference Championship Games, and thus having the 1st Round on that that weekend (first Saturday in November).

I heard this plausible scenario on the Dan Patrick Show yesterday with guest, Greg McElroy.
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The Conf Champ game should be eliminated.
This year in the BIG if OSU wins out and so does Oregon, they are both getting in. Why play a the Champ game!? they could also play in the tournament.
 



Ope3 said:
I will backtrack on a possibility of a 16 Team field coming to fruition, but the trade-off would likely be eliminating the Conference Championship Games, and thus having the 1st Round on that that weekend (first Saturday in November).

I heard this plausible scenario on the Dan Patrick Show yesterday with guest, Greg McElroy.
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A 16 team playoff would not add an extra week compared to the 12 team playoff season, so why would there be a trade-off to eliminate the Conference Championship games?
 

WAGopher said:
A 16 team playoff would not add an extra week compared to the 12 team playoff season, so why would there be a trade-off to eliminate the Conference Championship games?
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Without an incentive of a Bye, there wouldn't be much point of having the Conference Championship game.
 






Schnauzer said:
some thoughts regarding the new playoff structure...

First, the background:

1. 12 teams, 4 with first round byes and 8 (4 first round winners and 4 that had first round byes) that play in the quarter final round.
2. first round is played at the home stadium of the higher seed. Seeds 5-12 around December 20 or so.
3. The quarterfinal games are played in rotating traditional New Year's 6 bowls with one on New Years Eve and the other three on New Years Day.
4. The semifinals are played at the remining two rotating New Year's six sites, around January 8-9. So all six of the biggest bowls host one playoff game (four quarter finals and two semi finals)
5. The two remaining finalists meet in the national championship game, hosted at a bid site around January 20.

In general, I like it and I like the dates and prospective sites selected to host each round. I do think it will be better than the four team playoff, which was becoming more of an elite invitational event with the same teams every year than it was a "playoff."

But, there are a few things that are wonky...

1. No bowls for the first round losers. For example, say Indiana gets into the playoff and has to travel (and loses) an away game in the opposition's stadium. Their once-in-a-lifetime season could end on a frigid evening in front of a hostile crowd. No bowl swag packs. No battles of the bands on a field under palm trees or on a beach. No opportunity for throngs of fans gobbling up tickets and hotel rooms to party a holiday weekend away ready to cheer their favorite team on.

2. Because of #1, the non playoff bowls will further degenerate into "exhibitions" instead of exciting bowls played between big programs that normally don't see each other in the regular season. These "other" bowls were already in decline. Players sitting out. Coaches moving on to other jobs prior to gameday. Etc. You really have to wonder if the shine will come off of the long lineup of lesser bowls in an accelerated way.

3. Bank-breakers for fan bases going deep into the playoffs. This one is pretty self-explanatory but as a fan how would you like to fork over vacation, money, plane tickets, hotels, etc. for, let's say, the Rose bowl on Jan 1, then the Sugar Bowl on Jan 9, and then the championship on Jan 20. Will some of these big time games be played in front of half-full stadiums?

The bowl culture is so strong, it is easy to see why it has taken this long to come up with a 12 team tourney.
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Good points. I would prefer an eight-team playoff with no automatic bids to conference winners. Just go with the final poll. This is also too much of a 'second season" for me.
 


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