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TommyBoy's kid is top priorityWhat's your sense of the 2021 recruiting priority after the guys that have already committed?
TommyBoy's kid is top priorityWhat's your sense of the 2021 recruiting priority after the guys that have already committed?
Former head of the U.N.Who is that?
On a completely unrelated note, there is a QB at Totino Grace who is really bad.
Now - let's talk 2021 recruiting.
Would we still want him if he had out of state connections?Is he related to the Ford family in Michigan?
We need another 2021 commitment and soon. Only chance of getting this thread back on track since the Geers commitment already has a few other threads about it.
What's your sense of the 2021 recruiting priority after the guys that have already committed?
coming signing date! Clearly a change for us where we rarely had commitments prior to February.
Angry Bobby is back.
I'm not angry at all, just annoyed and you and posters like you coming on here to pimp out your son/nephew/friend/classmate/etc. No one who makes decisions for the Gophers reads these boards. If you really want to help your son out, build relationships with the coaching staff and get your son's materials over to them.
Not your kid, and yet almost every post you have is about him. Yes, we all believe you.
And I never said he wasn't worthy of Division I offers. There is a tremendous difference between the bottom of Division I and the Big Ten. He's not going to play for the Gophers, unless he wants to walk on. Get over it.
I'm not sure what this has to do with anything, but congratulations to him. And you would totally be in a position to know this if you aren't his father. Totally.
In the Big Ten? Go ahead - you would lose virtually every game. There's a reason he didn't get scholarship offers and walked on at Stanford. I'm sure he is very smart (he's going to Stanford), but that alone won't win you football games.
St. John's would get annihilated in every single game if they played in the Big Ten. They no longer even compete nationally at their own level. If I'm coaching football for the University of Minnesota and recruiting to fill out my roster, I could not care less what type of player attends St. John's. Those players are not worth my time.
I believe you are wrong. As posted above from Stanford's own website, he did not see the field. How would he get recognized as a special teams player if he literally did not play a down?
I'm not angry at all, just annoyed and you and posters like you coming on here to pimp out your son/nephew/friend/classmate/etc. No one who makes decisions for the Gophers reads these boards. If you really want to help your son out, build relationships with the coaching staff and get your son's materials over to them.
Not your kid, and yet almost every post you have is about him. Yes, we all believe you.
And I never said he wasn't worthy of Division I offers. There is a tremendous difference between the bottom of Division I and the Big Ten. He's not going to play for the Gophers, unless he wants to walk on. Get over it.
I'm not sure what this has to do with anything, but congratulations to him. And you would totally be in a position to know this if you aren't his father. Totally.
In the Big Ten? Go ahead - you would lose virtually every game. There's a reason he didn't get scholarship offers and walked on at Stanford. I'm sure he is very smart (he's going to Stanford), but that alone won't win you football games.
St. John's would get annihilated in every single game if they played in the Big Ten. They no longer even compete nationally at their own level. If I'm coaching football for the University of Minnesota and recruiting to fill out my roster, I could not care less what type of player attends St. John's. Those players are not worth my time.
I believe you are wrong. As posted above from Stanford's own website, he did not see the field. How would he get recognized as a special teams player if he literally did not play a down?
Fair point. When I go back in history to the February date signing only, it seems like we would have 0 or 1 person committed for the following year at the time of the signing date. Perhaps its my imagination paying closer attention with Fleck on board.Is that true?
Not arguing just wondering.
That's fine.Fair point. When I go back in history to the February date signing only, it seems like we would have 0 or 1 person committed for the following year at the time of the signing date. Perhaps its my imagination paying closer attention with Fleck on board.
Not necessarily in the same class- and especially when you already may have 3+ QBs on the depth chartThat would seem like a strange promise for a coach to make considering PJ makes it known his job is to croot ... guys better than you.
I’m waiting for JGs assessment before I believe u bobI just don't think he can throw a football 40 yards in the air.
Is that true?
Not arguing just wondering.
Same with RB/TE - we likely are only taking one of each this class given our existing depth at each position. If you know that ahead of time, you can use it as a closing tactic on a recruit you really want.Not necessarily in the same class- and especially when you already may have 3+ QBs on the depth chart
Fair point. When I go back in history to the February date signing only, it seems like we would have 0 or 1 person committed for the following year at the time of the signing date. Perhaps its my imagination paying closer attention with Fleck on board.
Isn’t St Johns best player from out of state?With respect to the bolded: Huh?
In 2018 St. John's made it to the national semifinal game, and Erdmann won the Gagliardi trophy. In 2019, they again made it to the national semifinals, and had a kid invited to play in the Senior Bowl.
St. John's hasn't had any recent trouble competing well nationally at the D3 level.
With respect to the bolded: Huh?
In 2018, St. John's made it to the national semifinals, and Erdmann won the Gagliardi Trophy. In 2019, they again made it to the national semifinals, and they had a lineman invited to play in the Senior Bowl.
SJU's recent performance at the national D3 level has been elite.
Isn't that the guy we got from Michigan?Isn’t St Johns best player from out of state?
It's a continuation of a long pattern for dp - he does whatever he can to burnish his reputation, regardless of whether what he's saying is true or not. I probably wouldn't have even posted this and chalked it up as a mistake if it weren't the umpteenth time he's done this. He knew exactly what he was doing.With respect to the bolded: Huh?
In 2018 St. John's made it to the national semifinal game, and Erdmann won the Gagliardi trophy. In 2019, they again made it to the national semifinals, and had a kid invited to play in the Senior Bowl.
St. John's hasn't had any recent trouble competing well nationally at the D3 level.
With respect to the bolded: Huh?
In 2018, St. John's made it to the national semifinals, and Erdmann won the Gagliardi Trophy. In 2019, they again made it to the national semifinals, and they had a lineman invited to play in the Senior Bowl.
SJU's recent performance at the national D3 level has been elite.
SJU's recent performance at the national D3 level has been elite.
Close...lineman invited NOT to play in the Senior Bowl but rather to observe etc. About 150 guys like this.With respect to the bolded: Huh?
In 2018 St. John's made it to the national semifinal game, and Erdmann won the Gagliardi trophy. In 2019, they again made it to the national semifinals, and had a kid invited to play in the Senior Bowl.
St. John's hasn't had any recent trouble competing well nationally at the D3 level.
With respect to the bolded: Huh?
In 2018, St. John's made it to the national semifinals, and Erdmann won the Gagliardi Trophy. In 2019, they again made it to the national semifinals, and they had a lineman invited to play in the Senior Bowl.
SJU's recent performance at the national D3 level has been elite.
Close...lineman invited NOT to play in the Senior Bowl but rather to observe etc. About 150 guys like this.
In the game the announcers talked about him and how well he did holding his own against the "big boys" and how he represented himself well.Depends on if you consider Erdmann or Bartsch. But Ben Bartsch was invited to play, not just observe, at the Senior Bowl. He got hurt during practice so he didnt get to play.
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Bartsch is listed under OG, rather than OT.
The last couple coaches got a high percentage of their recruits in Nov-Dec-Jan-Feb signing day, usually with the first recruit perhaps in June-July. Fleck gets his first recruit more than a year in advance and the class will be pretty complete in June when they all do their officials. Fleck's time line is months and months ahead of the last couple of coaches and he signs them all in December.Is that true?
Not arguing just wondering.
The last couple coaches got a high percentage of their recruits in Nov-Dec-Jan-Feb signing day, usually with the first recruit perhaps in June-July. Fleck gets his first recruit more than a year in advance and the class will be pretty complete in June when they all do their officials. Fleck's time line is months and months ahead of the last couple of coaches and he signs them all in December.
Ultimately, both methods could work.
Fleck's method is safer in that you have your class full and know what you have. But then you either have to cut kids from your class (which could come back to haunt you if word gets out that you don't honor your offers) if you find someone better or you just have to stick with what you have.
Kill's method was safer in the sense that it gave you more time to evaluate but also the risk being it gave recruits time to shop around.
I'm a little surprised our recruiting rankings haven't been higher under Fleck, but if we keep winning 11 games a year, no one will really care.
I'm a little surprised our recruiting rankings haven't been higher under Fleck, but if we keep winning 11 games a year, no one will really care.
TommyBoy's kid is top priority
Ultimately, both methods could work.
Fleck's method is safer in that you have your class full and know what you have. But then you either have to cut kids from your class (which could come back to haunt you if word gets out that you don't honor your offers) if you find someone better or you just have to stick with what you have.
Kill's method was safer in the sense that it gave you more time to evaluate but also the risk being it gave recruits time to shop around.
I'm a little surprised our recruiting rankings haven't been higher under Fleck, but if we keep winning 11 games a year, no one will really care.
I didn't mean they weren't higher than Kill's. I just thought they would be higher than they have been with Fleck's reputation as a recruiter. Like I said before - doesn't really matter as long as we win.Has TommyBoy been offered a job
They have been higher under Fleck. 47 on average for Fleck, not including 2020 and including his first year, which makes it worse. 61 for Kill including his first year and not including the one finished by Claeys, which makes his look worse, but also consider Kill's 3rd class was rated lower than his first class. Another thing to consider with Kill is that other than Tommy Olson, his highest rated recruit ended up contributing very little every year. Fleck has already hit with Andries and Dunlap, and Nubin is likely a big contributor this year.