Niko’s roster construction

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GopherJake said:
Interesting insight. Question: Would it be legal for the NCAA to reinstate the one year sit out transfer rule? In my opinion, this is what ruins it. College players have more freedom than professional players. Forcing an athlete to sit out an entire year if they want to transfer would obviously cut down on transfers by about 90%, along with the five to play four rule (which I’m not even sure is still in place or is at the very least being challenged)?
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I don't think it would be legal for the NCAA to do it because it would be deemed an unreasonable restraint on trade and thus a violation of the Sherman Act.

It could be something that is contractually negotiated and then mandated, but because of Title IX, those types of contracts are impossible.

I'm not 100% sure that if an athlete argued against the 5 to play 4 rule OR even the maximum of 4 years of eligibility rule that courts would not deem those as unreasonable restraints on trade. I know that sounds crazy and maybe I'm being doom and gloom. However, put it this way, if MN or insurance companies decided that you are only allowed to be dentist for 10 years, that would 100% be an unreasonable restraint on trade.

You can restrain trade, it just has to be reasonable. As of now, I haven't seen any ruling by any court to make me think things like "tradition of college sports" as a reasonable justification.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
Adding to this - - Niko plays a lot of guards (6-7 guards usually get 10+ minutes per game) and he has a tighter rotation with his big men.
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Big men will likely be the projects/development. Learn from the guy ahead of you and you will get your turn.
 














Does anyone have any insights about Niko's (and his staff's) recruiting hotbeds? Are there schools/regions where he's had particular success?
 









Who we have:
Asuma
Grove
Shinholster

CSU in the Portal:
Evans

Other possible targets if they hit the portal:
Jorgenson
Crocker-Johnson
Heide

CSU Recruit:
Jojo McIver

If Dawson could comeback our starting 5 could look like: (I still don't think he will be back, but if we can get another big that can shoot that'd be awesome).

G: Evans (47.1/44.6/85.2)
G: Asuma (43.7/35.7/63.6)
F: Heide (49.1/ 39.2/80.6)
F: Crocker-Johnson (49.1/35.4/75.9)
C: Garcia (47.4/37.3/78.3)

That would be a fun starting 5. Anyone can shoot, and I am hopeful Asuma's FT % goes up. (I think he will get more aggressive on his drives and get to the line more frequently as he develops). We still would need some depth pieces.
 


MaxyJR1 said:
Still pricing out materials of the foundation.
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Well said. That really has to be true when you are filling as many as 10 slots in the portal. The first 3-4 will get most of the dough but you have to figure out what the market is. It's going to be weird for a while because the promise of revenue sharing, while coming in a week with the final ruling, remains a little undefined. Some athletes and their agents may want to wait until the revenue sharing deal is put in writing.

At this point it would be difficult to put the revenue sharing promise into a contract and agents are holding out for written contracts now.
 

bga1 said:
Well said. That really has to be true when you are filling as many as 10 slots in the portal. The first 3-4 will get most of the dough but you have to figure out what the market is. It's going to be weird for a while because the promise of revenue sharing, while coming in a week with the final ruling, remains a little undefined. Some athletes and their agents may want to wait until the revenue sharing deal is put in writing.

At this point it would be difficult to put the revenue sharing promise into a contract and agents are holding out for written contracts now.
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I get it....some fans panic when they see a few players picking a new school but they seem to forget that there are still a ton of players in the portal and more are entering every day.

Just have to let the process play out and see how things look when the dust settles.

Ben was good at finding some decent pieces but struggled to build a team. Hopefully Niko proves more capable of assembling a full roster that can compete in the Big Ten.
 

Beerculees said:
Who we have:
Asuma
Grove
Shinholster

CSU in the Portal:
Evans

Other possible targets if they hit the portal:
Jorgenson
Crocker-Johnson
Heide

CSU Recruit:
Jojo McIver

If Dawson could comeback our starting 5 could look like: (I still don't think he will be back, but if we can get another big that can shoot that'd be awesome).

G: Evans (47.1/44.6/85.2)
G: Asuma (43.7/35.7/63.6)
F: Heide (49.1/ 39.2/80.6)
F: Crocker-Johnson (49.1/35.4/75.9)
C: Garcia (47.4/37.3/78.3)

That would be a fun starting 5. Anyone can shoot, and I am hopeful Asuma's FT % goes up. (I think he will get more aggressive on his drives and get to the line more frequently as he develops). We still would need some depth pieces.
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Heide? WTF? Have you seen anywhere that he is even remotely interested in transferring? He already left home for a vastly superior program (which is also his father's alma mater, incidentally), and should he choose to transfer, he'd also have many other vastly superior programs lining up for his services.

I'll happily eat crow if hell freezes over and he plays for the Gophers, but I'm quite confident I needn't be concerned about that even existing in the realm of possibilities.

As long as you were creating pie-in-the sky scenarios, why didn't you create a 2025-26 Gophers lineup with Flagg and Knueppel in it?
 

dpodoll68 said:
Heide? WTF? Have you seen anywhere that he is even remotely interested in transferring? He already left home for a vastly superior program (which is also his father's alma mater, incidentally), and should he choose to transfer, he'd also have many other vastly superior programs lining up for his services.

I'll happily eat crow if hell freezes over and he plays for the Gophers, but I'm quite confident I needn't be concerned about that even existing in the realm of possibilities.

As long as you were creating pie-in-the sky scenarios, why didn't you create a 2025-26 Gophers lineup with Flagg and Knueppel in it?
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Good call. Next years Gopher's lineup:

G: Isaac Asuma
G: Anthony Edwards (Sophomore)
F: Cam Heide
F: Lebron James (Freshman)
C: Victor Wembanyama (Freshman)
6th: Kevin Durant (Sophomore)
7th: KAT (Sophomore)

On a real note. Cam is a Minnesotan that has struggled a bit at Purdue. He has gotten minutes and has decent shooting #s. It would not be absurd to see a future with him transferring home. Also a guy that has averaged 20 mpg and averaging 4.7 ppg, 3.6 rpg, and .6 apg would not have universities lining up for him in my opinion. Him transferring home is more realistic than Dawson getting another year IMO. We will soon find out I guess.
 

Beerculees said:
It would not be absurd to see a future with him transferring home.
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Yes, it would.
Beerculees said:
Also a guy that has averaged 20 mpg and averaging 4.7 ppg, 3.6 rpg, and .6 apg would not have universities lining up for him in my opinion.
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He's a RS Soph who was always going to take a while to develop, and he was a rotation player on a deep and good Purdue team, not to mention that he contributed very positively in the Tournament, and had the announcers fawning all over him. I assure you he would have many, many schools eagerly bidding for him if he left Purdue (which, again, he is almost certainly not doing).

GopherHole is always funny this way - somehow, two things are simultaneously happening: a guy sucks at his current school and is eager to transfer (because reasons), and yet we'd be excited to have him in our starting lineup. Cognitive dissonance is a funny thing, I guess.

Here in reality, if he did transfer from Purdue (not happening) and transferred to the Gophers (super-duper not happening), he'd immediately be our best player and the centerpiece of our roster for the next 2 years.
Beerculees said:
Him transferring home is more realistic than Dawson getting another year IMO.
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Neither is happening, but I couldn't disagree with you more on which is more realistic.
 

Beerculees said:
Good call. Next years Gopher's lineup:

G: Isaac Asuma
G: Anthony Edwards (Sophomore)
F: Cam Heide
F: Lebron James (Freshman)
C: Victor Wembanyama (Freshman)
6th: Kevin Durant (Sophomore)
7th: KAT (Sophomore)

On a real note. Cam is a Minnesotan that has struggled a bit at Purdue. He has gotten minutes and has decent shooting #s. It would not be absurd to see a future with him transferring home. Also a guy that has averaged 20 mpg and averaging 4.7 ppg, 3.6 rpg, and .6 apg would not have universities lining up for him in my opinion. Him transferring home is more realistic than Dawson getting another year IMO. We will soon find out I guess.
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I love this.
 

dpodoll68 said:
Yes, it would.

He's a RS Soph who was always going to take a while to develop, and he was a rotation player on a deep and good Purdue team, not to mention that he contributed very positively in the Tournament, and had the announcers fawning all over him. I assure you he would have many, many schools eagerly bidding for him if he left Purdue (which, again, he is almost certainly not doing).

GopherHole is always funny this way - somehow, two things are simultaneously happening: a guy sucks at his current school and is eager to transfer (because reasons), and yet we'd be excited to have him in our starting lineup. Cognitive dissonance is a funny thing, I guess.

Here in reality, if he did transfer from Purdue (not happening) and transferred to the Gophers (super-duper not happening), he'd immediately be our best player and the centerpiece of our roster for the next 2 years.

Neither is happening, but I couldn't disagree with you more on which is more realistic.
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Just to clarify, I think he is a good player that was in a situation where he didn't get to showcase himself enough. I am not saying he sucks. There are plenty of players in the portal and he would get interest from many schools but I don't believe he'd have the Dukes, Bamas, or other big dogs gunning for him. I believe he can find a school where he is a bigger contributor and have success with them.

I was shocked last year when Mason Gillis left Purdue but it is a very similar situation and role Heide was in. I guess we will find out in due time.
 

dpodoll68 said:
GopherHole is always funny this way - somehow, two things are simultaneously happening: a guy sucks at his current school and is eager to transfer (because reasons), and yet we'd be excited to have him in our starting lineup. Cognitive dissonance is a funny thing, I guess.
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GopherHole is funny in other ways too, like some people thinking we are entitled to sign the best 10 players in the transfer portal and then throwing shade when we don't
 
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Ski-U-Ham said:
GopherHole is funny in other ways too, like some people thinking we are entitled to sign the best 10 players in the transfer portal and then throwing shade when we don't
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Funny also in thinking, that we're never entitled to any of the best players and throwing shade on anyone asking why.
 

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