Niko’s roster construction

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USAF said:
Fair enough.

I also expect Medved to do better than Johnson. But that's not the bar I hope to judge by. I mean, how could anyone NOT do better?

I also realize it's only a week. But it's a week of pretty much all bad news. Azuma staying is good news. What else?

I was completely wrong on Johnson, I liked the hire. I hope I'm dead wrong on Medved. But so far, I see no evidence.
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How did we do?
 


USAF said:
Says the guy who earlier posted we have no chance at a player like Eaglestaff. But hey! Niko!!!
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Niko-We’re interested

“I’m either going to the NBA or taking the best offer.”

Niko- Thanks we’ll move on.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
Wayzata guys, the last two, have pretty much said no from the jump.
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Heide's was more unique if I'm not mistaken, he's a Purdue legacy and grew up a Purdue fan. Don't blame a kid for that one at all. McAndrew I think they could've made a play at but there was nothing to sell at that time.
 




Yo, anyone got the scoop on Thorsen? Is he the real deal when it comes to recruiting? I’m fiending for some updates here—like, shouldn’t he be out there hustling the transfer portal while the staff is busy unpacking boxes and settling in? What’s the word on this transition? The silence is killing me, man. I’m on the brink of needing another hit of Medved. I’m desperate for my fix, like, seriously bad. Help me out!
 

USAF said:
Fair enough.

I also expect Medved to do better than Johnson. But that's not the bar I hope to judge by. I mean, how could anyone NOT do better?

I also realize it's only a week. But it's a week of pretty much all bad news. Azuma staying is good news. What else?

I was completely wrong on Johnson, I liked the hire. I hope I'm dead wrong on Medved. But so far, I see no evidence.
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Who was your #1 choice to replace the train wreck that was?

What was so bad about the week? Recruits of a former coach going away isn't abnormal.

Like you I didn't mind the Johnson hire. However he certainly wasn't my first choice. I'm OK with Medved per his experience and what he has done with other programs. Time will tell obviously if he was the right choice. There is plenty of time yet for him to fill his roster with portal players. I'm excited to see what happens next fall.
 

mncharger said:
I dont know if completely closing down the state is necessarily the tell all,did you see Tre Holloman Sunday he was horrific and was the cant miss point guard from Cretin.
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One player does not make a team. He's their 4th or 5th option on offense and is on the court for defense. He was bad offensively. He was a miss by our staff.
 



Updated after the weekend.

Got rid of Rigsby and the two Ben recruits. Added Evans as a portal follower, MAYBE
 

Otis said:
Updated after the weekend.

Got rid of Rigsby and the two Ben recruits. Added Evans as a portal follower, MAYBE
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Word on the street is Evans is shopping around. Doesn't mean he won't follow, and I think it is likely he does. But without the NC tag you never know who will sweep in.
 

While we wait for news on this front - not that I'm disappointed, I'm just impatient - I'm curious if anyone has thoughts about the possibility of market inefficiencies in the portal? e.g. We know and understand that experienced players with a track record of performance command top-level financial commitment. So too can players that were highly recruited and have a lot of potential, but had uneven (or worse) performances to date.

What types of players might greatly outperform the financial commitments they command on the open market? I'll throw out two possibilities:
  1. Second time in the transfer portal. --Might be a turnoff to some coaches/programs. Worth noting this describes Dawson Garcia, though he was driven by personal reasons.
  2. High 3 star or 4 star recruit that didn't play in a P4 program. --You'd have to really trust your HS scouting report, but these sorts of players would have upside. He's not alone, but Daniel Freitag fits this description.
I agree that every coach should be looking for fit, but Minnesota will never spend the most money in its conference, so I'm curious about where there might be value.
 

Scottsdale Gopher said:
While we wait for news on this front - not that I'm disappointed, I'm just impatient - I'm curious if anyone has thoughts about the possibility of market inefficiencies in the portal? e.g. We know and understand that experienced players with a track record of performance command top-level financial commitment. So too can players that were highly recruited and have a lot of potential, but had uneven (or worse) performances to date.

What types of players might greatly outperform the financial commitments they command on the open market? I'll throw out two possibilities:
  1. Second time in the transfer portal. --Might be a turnoff to some coaches/programs. Worth noting this describes Dawson Garcia, though he was driven by personal reasons.
  2. High 3 star or 4 star recruit that didn't play in a P4 program. --You'd have to really trust your HS scouting report, but these sorts of players would have upside. He's not alone, but Daniel Freitag fits this description.
I agree that every coach should be looking for fit, but Minnesota will never spend the most money in its conference, so I'm curious about where there might be value.
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Saw that the market is $2.5-3M range. That is 70% of revenue share going to one player. As predicted that puts us back to who has the best NIL. Clearing house for NIL better be strong or absolutely nothing changes.

 



I'm curious to what the best strategy is for Niko in this portal session. Do they identify and perhaps overpay for players early or hope that once the top guys get scooped up that they can find solid contributors at reasonable price levels. Also it's been reported that Medved and Thorson have been busy meeting with donors. I wish we had some insight on whether they were able to lock down some decent commitments.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
Saw that the market is $2.5-3M range. That is 70% of revenue share going to one player. As predicted that puts us back to who has the best NIL. Clearing house for NIL better be strong or absolutely nothing changes.

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Sure seems like the name on the front of the Jersey means nothin for many of them sadly.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
Saw that the market is $2.5-3M range. That is 70% of revenue share going to one player. As predicted that puts us back to who has the best NIL. Clearing house for NIL better be strong or absolutely nothing changes.

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This is going to end up with collective bargaining and a salary cap. I'm not sure how else you contain it.
 


MaxyJR1 said:
Saw that the market is $2.5-3M range. That is 70% of revenue share going to one player. As predicted that puts us back to who has the best NIL. Clearing house for NIL better be strong or absolutely nothing changes.

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take all this info as BS. nobody knows what any player is being offered. complete speculation intended to seem like an insider and get clicks.
 

WHB Brewer said:
take all this info as BS. nobody knows what any player is being offered. complete speculation intended to seem like an insider and get clicks.
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You are probably right. It is certainly in the interest of agents to circulate rumors of a super high market rate.
I think we are going to have to be patient and disciplined. Get 5-6 good ballplayers and mold them into a team rather than get caught fishing for one kid that wants a big number.

If you have slots: 1,000,000/800k/600k/500k/400k - that's 3.3 mil. for the starters and still 1 to 2 million for bench players. With guys that are the right fits that should be plenty to field a really competitive team.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
One player does not make a team. He's their 4th or 5th option on offense and is on the court for defense. He was bad offensively. He was a miss by our staff.
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I don't think that you can call it a miss....we recruited him hard. Thought we had a chance....He said no.
 

Crazy part is the courts haven't even given the final ruling yet.
 

And I've read that some of these "offers" are multi-year offers.

So the headline says $1.5MM, but the kid is a freshman, so they are really offering $500k/year for the next 3 years (if the kid actually stays 3 years).
 


ShushPush said:
Yo, anyone got the scoop on Thorsen? Is he the real deal when it comes to recruiting? I’m fiending for some updates here—like, shouldn’t he be out there hustling the transfer portal while the staff is busy unpacking boxes and settling in? What’s the word on this transition? The silence is killing me, man. I’m on the brink of needing another hit of Medved. I’m desperate for my fix, like, seriously bad. Help me out!
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Maybe at the end of each day, Coach Thorson should post a list here (shades of what Elon Musk was asking for) detailing every single person he tried to call-and call 2 more times if he got the message; and also detail what exactly was said during each conversation with each contact.

That way, we could all suggest who he needs to be working harder on, and how to convince them, and also who he should stop wasting his time on. Can't imagine that after working the phones from Noon to midnight, he couldn't find a spare 2-3 hours before he calls it a day to document and file a report that we Gopher Holers could check out, first thing at 5am every day. Better yet, leave a number than we can contact him first thing in the morning to let him know what he's doing wrong. That's what I would consider "Hustling the Transfer Portal!". :) I'm kidding, unless you think that should be the minimum requirement. lol
 

MaxyJR1 said:
Niko-We’re interested

“I’m either going to the NBA or taking the best offer.”

Niko- Thanks we’ll move on.
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If that is true, good for Niko. It's also worth remembering that, as impressive as a 51-point game and an 18.9 ppg average are, North Dakota was 43-55 in Eaglestaff's three years.
 


MaxyJR1 said:
Saw that the market is $2.5-3M range. That is 70% of revenue share going to one player. As predicted that puts us back to who has the best NIL. Clearing house for NIL better be strong or absolutely nothing changes.

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So does this mean they are far too high given the lack of top commitments?

If I recall $1 Mil was the highest last year. WA to the Great O.
howeda7 said:
This is going to end up with collective bargaining and a salary cap. I'm not sure how else you contain it.
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The secret to sky rocketing baseball salaries was convincing the owners to introduce scarcity into free agency. Giving the owners 6 years free meant placing an artifical limit on free agent salaries.

Fans like consistency. so we want to keep players around. As far as keeping salaries low, having free transfer every year will actually prevent them from going up like were used to elsewhere due to quantity of avalable alternatives.
 

Scottsdale Gopher said:
While we wait for news on this front - not that I'm disappointed, I'm just impatient - I'm curious if anyone has thoughts about the possibility of market inefficiencies in the portal? e.g. We know and understand that experienced players with a track record of performance command top-level financial commitment. So too can players that were highly recruited and have a lot of potential, but had uneven (or worse) performances to date.

What types of players might greatly outperform the financial commitments they command on the open market? I'll throw out two possibilities:
  1. Second time in the transfer portal. --Might be a turnoff to some coaches/programs. Worth noting this describes Dawson Garcia, though he was driven by personal reasons.
  2. High 3 star or 4 star recruit that didn't play in a P4 program. --You'd have to really trust your HS scouting report, but these sorts of players would have upside. He's not alone, but Daniel Freitag fits this description.
I agree that every coach should be looking for fit, but Minnesota will never spend the most money in its conference, so I'm curious about where there might be value.
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Might not be in exact same position but at least the same vain.

You could have find out which programs have scorned their players. I.E. recruit off the bad actors.

The NCAA has already allowed direct negotiations and publish things to get in writing do to unfulfilled NIL promises sometimes in the 100s of thousands.

Also, it would be great to point out: “hey kid, Miami promises $800k they delivered $20k to player XYZ.”
 

dpodoll68 said:
Yes, it would.

He's a RS Soph who was always going to take a while to develop, and he was a rotation player on a deep and good Purdue team, not to mention that he contributed very positively in the Tournament, and had the announcers fawning all over him. I assure you he would have many, many schools eagerly bidding for him if he left Purdue (which, again, he is almost certainly not doing).

GopherHole is always funny this way - somehow, two things are simultaneously happening: a guy sucks at his current school and is eager to transfer (because reasons), and yet we'd be excited to have him in our starting lineup. Cognitive dissonance is a funny thing, I guess.

Here in reality, if he did transfer from Purdue (not happening) and transferred to the Gophers (super-duper not happening), he'd immediately be our best player and the centerpiece of our roster for the next 2 years.

Neither is happening, but I couldn't disagree with you more on which is more realistic.
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With Myles Colvin entering the transfer portal, it is less likely that Heide does since their roles are similar. I will concede to you on Heide (however I reserve the right to gloat if he does enter the portal).
 

Beerculees said:
Word on the street is Evans is shopping around. Doesn't mean he won't follow, and I think it is likely he does. But without the NC tag you never know who will sweep in.
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Thats what I'm hearing on GI. Also Niko is making a strong push to bring in BJ Omot
 

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