Lol I’m living in dreamland by thinking we’ve bottomed out? Dreamland by thinking we are a bottom tier P5/P6 program? I think I’m just more realistic where we are right now.
We do have new alumni every year. We have fewer and fewer students at the games. Do they come away with the feeling that they want to be long term fans or are they there because their parents sprung for the cheap tickets and they get a night out with their friends? I will give the kids credit- they did their best to hang in there and be loud in the first half of the Purdue game. It's just not much fun right now though.
That is a completely different argument than what I’m saying.
Bottoming out would be one less b10 win.
I don’t disagree with this at all. I think it would and we’d have more than enough justification for firing.
I didn’t change anything. We just disagree on the amount of support we have to lose. That’s fair.
Yup. And you can feel free to think we can’t lose anymore fans
Yeah I guess I just don’t think there is much of a difference in winning 0-4 conference games. It means the team was awful.
You would think we were Caltech....
That sounds like a mea culpa to The Mods post banning
I agree, was joking. Being 13th or 14th.. which will soon be 15th or 16th is bottoming it
17/18 when the new commish also adds Arizona, Washington, or Oregon
Can someone tell CBJ we don’t get draft picks for tanking
Not positive the threshold will be quite that high but if there are not obvious signs of improvement in year 3 it is possible they make a move at the end of the year.
Well, if we are middle of the B1G then we should make the tournament. If we are bottom third of the B1G then we won't make the tournament.
This is just a list of reasons to stop caring about this University’s athletics, to be honest. Just a full acknowledgment that none of the admin values being competitive. I’m not ready to say fire now, or after 3, or 4, but if the AD isn’t constantly reevaluating based on performance and projected improvement then why does anyone watch?
I could lower the bar even further personally (ideally outside of bottom 4 and a notable upset or two, no blowouts, etc), but the arrow absolutely has to be pointing upwards after 3.
It’s part of why I’ve said a lot of times that is a tough job to be successful at. Scary part is I think this admin is the most competitive and willing to spend that we’ve had in a 30-40 years.
i do wonder what the priority list is for Coyle and Gabel
By hiring a head men's bb coach that had zero hc experience leads me to believe the administration at the u isn't competitive at all.
This coupled with zero track record of winning. If we had hired Gates or Smith, you could at least bank on the idea that he had previous success.
This hire had nothing to do with wins and losses. They thought any coach will do and will shoehorn in a narrative.
Lol I don’t know if he’d be able to recruit anybody anymore after his incident at Witchita State. Dude did win a lot of games and could get teams to defend.
Water under the bridge. All these guys with issues come back from the dead at some point
Not the ones who physically abuse players
He’ll be back at some point. Some P5 school who is down on their luck will want to turn it around and hire him
