All Things RB Jeffrey Jones Thread

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Ya, I could have told you this would be the result based on the fact that we live within the confines of Minnesota.

The question is can we squeeze out a win like we did against Indiana.
 

GoldenHerbs said:
http://www.startribune.com/sports/blogs/265238631.html#RgGo3ROR3i8URSsZ.97
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Newest tidbit:

But there’s a new wrinkle ahead of Plan B. Call it Plan 1A.

People familiar with Jones situation have said he could still end up at the University this fall. If he’s admitted, he wouldn’t be on scholarship, so he would have to take out a school loan.

He wouldn’t be eligible to work out with the football team. But he could get his feet settled in college and work out in the weight room with an eye toward competing for the Gophers in 2015. He would need to finish at least 24 University credits by the end of the 2015 summer session, with at least a 2.0 GPA to be eligible to compete for the Gophers that fall.
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So basically a gray shirt? Would the U even let him in? If he's not on scholarship, I would think he would need to go through the normal admissions process?
 


so disappointing to see kids throw away opportunities like this. hopefully this is a wake up call for the kids in his community who looked up to him.
 


I'm not giving up yet. Still seems to have a chance at being admitted - no matter how slim.
 


BJN said:
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So basically a gray shirt? Would the U even let him in? If he's not on scholarship, I would think he would need to go through the normal admissions process?
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Gray shirt would be not enrolling into the university until second semester so no. And the U could take him if they wanted to i'm pretty sure.
 

Do we know what grades he needs and in what kind of class? If he needs to get an A in calc and another A in chemistry, I don't think he's got a chance.
 



Gopherguy0723 said:
It's not happening this year. Hopefully it will in two years.
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The prep school option would be one year then he would still have 5 to play 4. Summer school is still a possibility depending on what he has to make up.
 


We have had a number of juco players come in with four years to play three. Is that only an option if the athlete qualified out if high school? Or is that a possibility just not mentioned by the Strib?
 




LBJ said:
We have had a number of juco players come in with four years to play three. Is that only an option if the athlete qualified out if high school? Or is that a possibility just not mentioned by the Strib?
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Yes, you have to qualify out of high school to go that route. So no, it isn't a possibility.
 


Fuuuuuuuuudge! Except I didn't sat "fudge."

What exactly was Gray's situation that all he really had to do was take what amounted to a redshirt year?
 

AO54 said:
so disappointing to see kids throw away opportunities like this. hopefully this is a wake up call for the kids in his community who looked up to him.
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What did he throw away? Kids don't raise themselves. This falls on the parents, coaches, and school for letting him play HS Sports and not preparing him for the future.
 

Breakin' The Plane said:
Fuuuuuuuuudge! Except I didn't sat "fudge."

What exactly was Gray's situation that all he really had to do was take what amounted to a redshirt year?
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His test scores were flagged because he improved too much, i.e. they were suspicious of the results. As a result it took Gray a long time to get approved.
 

BJN said:
Newest tidbit:So basically a gray shirt? Would the U even let him in? If he's not on scholarship, I would think he would need to go through the normal admissions process?
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Scholarship students go through the normal admission process as well. The athletic department may have pull, but the kid still has to get admitted regardless of how he or she is paying for school.

My bigger concern is whether Mr. Jones would be able to use the academic support system the football team has in place if he is not on scholarship. Be pointless for him to pay his own way in year 1 if he didn't get the grades and through enough classes to be eligible in year 2. How about weight room, training table, etc.

Not sure that 2 years in IA wouldn't be better for him academically and football wise. Come back to the U for 2 years, be a stud and go on to the NFL.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
What did he throw away? Kids don't raise themselves. This falls on the parents, coaches, and school for letting him play HS Sports and not preparing him for the future.
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BS. We're not talking about the failings of Minneapolis public schools in general, we're talking about one kid who everyone in his community wanted to see him pass. We're not talking about bringing his math and science test scores up enough to be an engineer, we're talking about a measly 20 on the ACT.
 

Killjoy said:
His test scores were flagged because he improved too much, i.e. they were suspicious of the results. As a result it took Gray a long time to get approved.
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So Gray got in, was cleared to play and then the NCAA stepped in and took him off the team while they snooped around?
 


GopherinPhilly said:
Scholarship students go through the normal admission process as well. The athletic department may have pull, but the kid still has to get admitted regardless of how he or she is paying for school.

My bigger concern is whether Mr. Jones would be able to use the academic support system the football team has in place if he is not on scholarship. Be pointless for him to pay his own way in year 1 if he didn't get the grades and through enough classes to be eligible in year 2. How about weight room, training table, etc.

Not sure that 2 years in IA wouldn't be better for him academically and football wise. Come back to the U for 2 years, be a stud and go on to the NFL.
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Except he could still play 4 years instead of 2 plus we wouldn't need to worry about another school coming in and snagging him up.
 

Breakin' The Plane said:
So Gray got in, was cleared to play and then the NCAA stepped in and took him off the team while they snooped around?
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Pretty much. I am pretty sure he had the score he needed but based on the improvements he had made there was some concern that things were not above board. Unlike Jones though he had everything he needed to get in, the NCAA just wasn't sure it was legit.
 

Maybe I am naive, but the fact that he is still taking summer courses means that there is still a possibility. I mean why would he do it otherwise? I am still holding onto hope.
 

LBJ said:
Maybe I am naive, but the fact that he is still taking summer courses means that there is still a possibility. I mean why would he do it otherwise? I am still holding onto hope.
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Of course there is still a possibility. Only the uninformed ones like gopherguy think its a done deal.
 

GopherinPhilly said:
Scholarship students go through the normal admission process as well. The athletic department may have pull, but the kid still has to get admitted regardless of how he or she is paying for school.
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You really think that athletes don't have special admissions requirements? You think that a 2.5 and a 20 ACT is good enough to get into Minnesota if you're not a scholarship football players?

Heck, even Harvard has started lowering their admissions standards for hoops players. It's why the rest of the Ivy League hates Ammaker.
 

justthefacts said:
You really think that athletes don't have special admissions requirements? You think that a 2.5 and a 20 ACT is good enough to get into Minnesota if you're not a scholarship football players?

Heck, even Harvard has started lowering their admissions standards for hoops players. It's why the rest of the Ivy League hates Ammaker.
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The U can choose to admit whoever they want and whoever they don't want. It is definitely in their best interest to admit Jeff.
 

This has "two years at Juco and then 'exploring other schools'" written all over it.
 


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