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If you’re going to bring up an apples and oranges analogy . . . . Do you know one private entity/business that would allow one of their most visible divisions/products to routinely finish in the 3rd and 4th quartiles year after year, and not find a way to address it?!?
Again private versus public. There is a difference.
 

You've made a few comments like this. You do understand that this is not coming from taxpayer funding or the school's general budget, correct?
I made "a few comments like this". Hmm you must have me confused with someone else.
 

You've made a few comments like this. You do understand that this is not coming from taxpayer funding or the school's general budget, correct?
It's s very strange comment if only because all public entities DO operate on budgets.
 

Home Run Hires above!!!

Solid hires below.




Mike White?
Where did his name come from?



Miles would be okay but viewed as a retread because of Nebraska.
Nice guy, though.
Beilein would be a bit of a questionable hire. Feels like when minor colleges pick up coaches beyond their prime.
I just like Mike White as a coach.
 

Do you think Mike White is getting fired or wants out a year ahead of the firing squad?

I don't think he will get fired nor do I think he'd be a candidate here. I was just going off the list presented to me. One person I'd like to see them look at seriously would also be Casey Alexander at Belmont. He's really good, but he'd be in my 3rd tier along with Porter Mosher.
 


I don't think he will get fired nor do I think he'd be a candidate here. I was just going off the list presented to me. One person I'd like to see them look at seriously would also be Casey Alexander at Belmont. He's really good, but he'd be in my 3rd tier along with Porter Mosher.
I just like White as a coach, no intent on firing.
 

I don't think he will get fired nor do I think he'd be a candidate here. I was just going off the list presented to me. One person I'd like to see them look at seriously would also be Casey Alexander at Belmont. He's really good, but he'd be in my 3rd tier along with Porter Mosher.
There was some grousing among UF fans earlier in the season, but he's made the tournament every year he's been there. They're not usually as irrational as Kentucky fans.
 

I just like White as a coach, no intent on firing.

I do too. He was close to being a tier II for me. In the SEC, he's right at the level of Buzz and Oates imo. He was close and probably should've been in my second tier.
 

Not the time for this thread. If the season goes even halfway decent, Pitino will be back. There are major $$ issues almost everywhere. The coaching carousels will be much quieter than normal.
just looking back at the takes on this tread....
 



This is just a sad commentary on the fanbase.

We have a very good crop of players, many with NBA potential. Excitement for the upcoming season, and you have a thread like this... just pathetic.
hmmmm.....
 

hmmmm.....
He was right at the time... perhaps not so much about the NBA potential of many on the roster but of the potential of the roster. A thread like this in November is a dirt bag effort. Can we never enjoy the moment?
 

hmmmm.....
Well we know there are at least 2 girl posters here...GopherLady and alaska. No dude would bring up stuff from the past to show they're right like this.
 

A couple of Gopher-related notes from The Athletic’s Seth Davis in his coaching carousel column today:

Richard Pitino, head coach, Minnesota. Pitino’s eight-year run will almost certainly come to an end as soon as the Golden Gophers lose in the Big Ten tournament this week. Pitino was hired in 2013 at the age of 30 despite having just one year of head coaching experience at FIU. He won an NIT championship during his first season at Minnesota and he took the Golden Gophers to the NCAA Tournament twice, but this season’s team fell into a nasty spiral the last six weeks and finished the regular season in 13th place in the Big Ten. There has been speculation that Pitino could be a candidate at Boston College, but a well-placed source tells me that is extremely unlikely to happen.

Brian Dutcher, head coach, San Diego State. Dutcher is in a great situation at SDSU, where he makes good money, can consistently coach in the NCAA Tournament, and live in blissful weather. If another school wants to hire him, it will owe SDSU $6.9 million. The exception is Minnesota, where his father, Jim, coached from 1975 to ’85, and which most likely will have a vacancy in the coming days. Dutcher’s contract at SDSU has a clause that lowers that buyout to $1 million if he leaves for Minnesota. Dutcher could also be a candidate at Arizona if that job comes open and the school looks outside the family of former Arizona players for a replacement.
 



Well we know there are at least 2 girl posters here...GopherLady and alaska. No dude would bring up stuff from the past to show they're right like this.
Wow.

We should have never let women have the vote, amiright?
 

just looking back at the takes on this tread....
OK? And? $ is still an issue, I just don't think a $1.75 buyout or paying a salary somewhere in the middle of the B1G should be so difficult. Certainly if we had a halfway decent season, Pitino would be safe.
 

RP? Are you kidding? Similar to when Monson was hired, no one wanted the job. Watched it play out now for decades.

Definition - I agree it is difficult to define. What I dont want is for MN admin to go the inexpensive route. Again, if MN wants a big time program, hire for a big time program.
I was merely asking. I agree RP was a head scratcher for me as well...I think they thought diamond in the rough. I disagree with you on Monson. At the time of hire, he was a pretty hot commodity, much like Fleck when he was hired. It obviously ended up not working out, but I don't remember people not being excited about Monson's hire at the time. What do you consider the inexpensive route?
 


Great question. Honestly on this list, I think all are an upgrade currently. I'll do tiers on my comfort level of them being successful here.

Tier 1: (Never happening for a variety of reason that are mostly not money related). They are top 5 coaches in the country at this time imo.
1. Beard
2. Wright

Tier 2: This group are all defensive guys who build systems and I trust in their ability to teach. I like Smith the most because of age, energy, winning at tough jobs, and price.
1. Musselman
2. Smith
3. Dutcher

Tier 3: This is a group who I think are good coaches and will need a little luck. My main lack of confidence in this group is their lack of experience/varied results.
1. Medved
2. Mike White
3. Gates

Tier 4:
1. Beilein: Great great teacher and coach, but his program takes time to build and develop. I also question his want and willingness to grind at this stage. He doesn't have much more to prove.
2. Miles: I think Miles is better than what his Nebraska record shows. I think he puts the U in Fran McCaffery/Iowa territory. It's fine and its maybe my initial goal, but I'd worry about a plateau with Miles. One thing he would do is find great assistants. His coaching tree is rather impressive.
I think Mike White or Miles are maybe the only two who don't win the press conference here with fans. With the media it's a different story.
So would Beard and Wright qualify as home run hires?
 


I was merely asking. I agree RP was a head scratcher for me as well...I think they thought diamond in the rough. I disagree with you on Monson. At the time of hire, he was a pretty hot commodity, much like Fleck when he was hired. It obviously ended up not working out, but I don't remember people not being excited about Monson's hire at the time. What do you consider the inexpensive route?
Hiring a coach due to not wanting to spend $$, and not providing the new coach with top flight assistant $$.
 

Side note: Can we please update the barn? It’s old and playing the history card isn’t a reason to be hesitant on this. At the very least let’s get a few new jeresy designs. Let’s scrap the old and look forward to something new. Very similar with what Fleck did. I love his jersey combos.

The Pros and Cons of keeping the Barn:

On one hand, its ceiling will never be as high as the Kohl Center

On the other hand, it has perhaps the highest floor in all of college basketball

:)
 

For me a home run would be to just get us on track to finish above .500 in B1G play every year. That would be leaps and bounds better than where we have been in recent memory. I honestly think any of the tiers of coaches that you listed can get us there. Of course we all want more than that but maybe we should think small....
We've had like two occurrences of consecutive "above 0.500" finishes in the Big Ten since 1970.

71-72*
93-94.
 

So would Beard and Wright qualify as home run hires?
They’d qualify impossible hires. They wouldn’t come here. I get your argument about just finding the right guy and paying them, but those two wouldn’t come here for anything. They are in the places they want to be for reasons beyond salary.
 





If its musselman/dutcher vs the field, im going field.
I would actually agree.

I would like either of those 2 guys though, but I will bet we end up with someone no one is thinking about. Especially if they are trying to save money on this hire with the athletic department being in the red right now with Covid.

If the "cheap" route is the one we have to take. I'd rather they get an established guy from a lesser university that has won for awhile and has a system you like. Rather than another Pitino type that hasn't really done anything but is intriguing because he is young and won't cost much.
 






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