Visit with Montana St. transfer G Darius Brown II

skiumah1 · Apr 28, 2023

WriterGoph said:
Bigger is not always better. Do you know how many people select new jobs based on familiarity/previous experience with their manager/leadership? This is no different. Jumping to the biggest brand/company/conference is not the #1 deciding factor for lots of people.

I think as soon as reasonable people in this thread realized we were up against his previous coach at Utah State, it was assumed it was going to be an uphill battle for Brown. Your post making it seem like this was simply a comparison of schools/conferences is disingenuous at best.

PS. Utah State has been a tourney team for most of the past 5 years.

Bad Gopher said:
All true

His teammate Raequon Battle also transferred from Montana St. and chose West Virginia instead of following the head coach.

I get kids make what decision is best for them, but it feels like we may be heading towards the path of making a few too many excuses for Ben at this point. Ben needs to make kids feel like Minnesota is the best choice for them. That's recruiting. Or maybe he's targeting the wrong kids.

I still hope we can find capable guys in the portal, but it doesn't feel like a great spot right now.

I can understand supporting the head coach, but I want us to win. I don't care who it is. It doesn't feel like we're trending towards more winning.

Bad Gopher · Apr 28, 2023

Off-GridTNgopher said:
Better than Ben at MN

Not even a valid comparison at this point

fan of Ray Williams · Apr 28, 2023

Ben will crank up Mitchell’s minutes per game to around 37 and call it good.

skiumah1 · Apr 28, 2023

fan of Ray Williams said:
Ben will crank up Mitchell’s minutes per game to around 37 and call it good.

He really will at right now doesn't have a choice. Carrington can't handle the ball. Some are saying Christie may be able to but that seems like a lot to ask of him as a fresh.

They guy we could really use back right now is Cooper.

Dakota2 · Apr 28, 2023

skiumah1 said:
He really will at right now doesn't have a choice. Carrington can't handle the ball. Some are saying Christie may be able to but that seems like a lot to ask of him as a fresh.

They guy we could really use back right now is Cooper.

We've known all along Cooper was the biggest loss in the event we got a point and he could play SG.

skiumah1 · Apr 28, 2023

Dakota2 said:
We've known all along Cooper was the biggest loss in the event we got a point and he could play SG.

I really didn't think Ben would struggle as much as he has in the portal. Maybe that was on me but I figured there was plenty of time to find those replacements. Mitchell was a good start but it's just been nothing since.

Bad Gopher · Apr 28, 2023

skiumah1 said:
He really will at right now doesn't have a choice. Carrington can't handle the ball. Some are saying Christie may be able to but that seems like a lot to ask of him as a fresh.

They guy we could really use back right now is Cooper.

I know! The addition-by-subtraction people also think we'll be better off without Battle.

Spaulding!No! · Apr 28, 2023

The good news is none of this is Ben’s fault

Off-GridTNgopher · Apr 28, 2023

Who didn't pay their part........ It's their fault

skiumah1 · Apr 28, 2023

Bad Gopher said:
I know! The addition-by-subtraction people also think we'll be better off without Battle.

No doubt the talent of Battle would be right up there with Payne and Garcia, but my god it was hard to watch him play for us last year. I don't know why it didn't work, but it was not working.

Dakota2 · Apr 28, 2023

skiumah1 said:
I really didn't think Ben would struggle as much as he has in the portal. Maybe that was on me but I figured there was plenty of time to find those replacements. Mitchell was a good start but it's just been nothing since.

What we are fighting is a program in terrible shape overall and a coach that doesn't have the clout to overcome it.

skiumah1 · Apr 28, 2023

Dakota2 said:
What we are fighting is a program in terrible shape overall and a coach that doesn't have the clout to overcome it.

Agreed. The negative recruiting against Ben and the U has to be pretty straightforward for other coaches when we are trying to compete as a finalist as well.

GopherWeatherGuy · Apr 28, 2023

Dakota2 said:
What we are fighting is a program in terrible shape overall and a coach that doesn't have the clout to overcome it.

So keeping Ben for another year is a waste of everyone’s time and completely pointless?

Dakota2 · Apr 28, 2023

GopherWeatherGuy said:
So keeping Ben for another year is a waste of everyone’s time and completely pointless?

Who kept him for another year?

Garyisawinner · Apr 28, 2023

Dakota2 said:
Who kept him for another year?

And any recruit that reads this crap would also look elsewhere. B positive

howeda7 · Apr 29, 2023

Bad Gopher said:
Well, shit. We lost out to Utah State!? Not trying to be dramatic, but this feels like a new low. Utah State has had its successes in recent years, but they have a new coach and an uncertain future. Brown had an opportunity to play in the Big Ten, for fuck sakes!

Utah State is less shameful than St Bonaventure and Austin Peay.

Gophers7633 · Apr 29, 2023

howeda7 said:
Utah State is less shameful than St Bonaventure and Austin Peay.

We missed out on someone that went to Austin Peay?! Lmao. I didn't even realize that. Wow.

USAF · Apr 29, 2023

howeda7 said:
Utah State is less shameful than St Bonaventure and Austin Peay.

Is it?

Off-GridTNgopher · Apr 29, 2023

Gophers7633 said:
We missed out on someone that went to Austin Peay?! Lmao. I didn't even realize that. Wow.

"We won't finish in last place" tho

Bad Gopher · Apr 29, 2023

howeda7 said:
Utah State is less shameful than St Bonaventure and Austin Peay.

One way or another, we have a new new low as of this morning.

goldenboy · Apr 30, 2023

Just imagine how bad things would be if Johnson wasn’t “blow you away” good at recruiting!

Cayman · Apr 30, 2023

Gophers7633 said:
We missed out on someone that went to Austin Peay?! Lmao. I didn't even realize that. Wow.

Dezi Jones from Quinnipiac. Looks like Minnesota, Oklahoma, and whole bunch of mid-majors reached out to him. Missing on both Darius Brown and Charles Pride really sucks, and I'd believe that we genuinely wanted both, but I have my doubts that Dezi Jones was a top target for us that we just straight up lost to Austin Peay.

He was also arrested a few days after committing to Austin Peay.

Former Quinnipiac basketball player arrested in Connecticut

HAMDEN, Conn. (AP) — Police in Connecticut have charged former Quinnipiac University basketball player Dezmond “Dezi” Jones in connection with what appears to be a domestic violence incident involving a female student at the school who also was arrested.

apnews.com

Spaulding!No! · Apr 30, 2023

Off-GridTNgopher said:
"We won't finish in last place" tho

Yeah, we will always have that magical moment. ‘We got too many men on the field! Nooooooooo.’

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