Updates About Penn State Scandal UPDATED 6/12: PSU has spent $45.9M on scandal

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Well, it's done. The NCAA has seemingly overstepped its authority, but since PSU has signed off, there will be no appeal. The NCAA has now, via precedent, taken authority over immoral behavior. The question now is, where will they strike next? If a school has too many DWI's among athletes, do they put the school on probation? How about shoplifting? As I stated in an earlier post, division I administrators can now wash their hands of the responsibility for overseeing decent behavior on the part of big time coaches. Think the President of Alabama wants to suspend his head football coach? Not if he wants to keep his job (and I'm not suggesting that Sabin has done anything that warrants suspension).

Now let's see what happens at Miami! I wouldn't b a bit surprised if a group of schools drops out to form a super conference of semi-pro football & basketball teams.
 

station19 said:
I'm in charge here.

Sincerely
Alexandria Haig.
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"Alexander Haig may be best remembered for saying, 'I am in control' after the Reagan shooting. But Alexander Haig's 'I am in control' quote was just one of his major actions in Washington. Before making that infamous statement, he was just known as a Secretary of State, a general, and a key figure in the final days of the Nixon White House. But since 1981, he became a caricature thanks to one of the most memorable gaffs in recent history. As such, Alexander Haig saying 'I'm in charge here' is leading off most of his obituaries, after his death today at age 85."

http://voices.yahoo.com/alexander-haig-am-control-quote-defines-haig-5509815.html
 





ncgo4 said:
Well, it's done. The NCAA has seemingly overstepped its authority, but since PSU has signed off, there will be no appeal. The NCAA has now, via precedent, taken authority over immoral behavior. The question now is, where will they strike next? If a school has too many DWI's among athletes, do they put the school on probation?
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You do understand that they were not sanctioning PSU for Sandusky's actions, right?
 

ncgo4 said:
Well, it's done. The NCAA has seemingly overstepped its authority, but since PSU has signed off, there will be no appeal. The NCAA has now, via precedent, taken authority over immoral behavior. The question now is, where will they strike next? If a school has too many DWI's among athletes, do they put the school on probation? How about shoplifting? As I stated in an earlier post, division I administrators can now wash their hands of the responsibility for overseeing decent behavior on the part of big time coaches. Think the President of Alabama wants to suspend his head football coach? Not if he wants to keep his job (and I'm not suggesting that Sabin has done anything that warrants suspension).

Now let's see what happens at Miami! I wouldn't b a bit surprised if a group of schools drops out to form a super conference of semi-pro football & basketball teams.
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People seem to have a hard time grasping the fact that the NCAA is a member organization, not unlike a student organization. They have the right to punish members in whatever ways they see fit and their executive committee can interpret their rules in whatever way they see fit.

It is like a fraternity punishing a member so that they cannot attend social functions or must do a required amount of study hours. The Wisconsin band punished members and weren't able to play at games for their hazing incident in 2008. I think of this as similar authority. The NCAA is also a 501 (c) 3 non-profit.
 

CrocShots said:
People seem to have a hard time grasping the fact that the NCAA is a member organization, not unlike a student organization. They have the right to punish members in whatever ways they see fit and their executive committee can interpret their rules in whatever way they see fit.

It is like a fraternity punishing a member so that they cannot attend social functions or must do a required amount of study hours. The Wisconsin band punished members and weren't able to play at games for their hazing incident in 2008. I think of this as similar authority. The NCAA is also a 501 (c) 3 non-profit.
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Yes it is a member organization, but if you have a football team and want to play games against other college team, you have to join or you are SOL.
 

station19 said:
Yes it is a member organization, but if you have a football team and want to play games against other college team, you have to join or you are SOL.
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Or NAIA. Which is basically the same thing.
 











To Be Named Later said:
For the amount people say they dislike dpo, they certainly pay a lot of attention to him. People love to hate the annoying guy who is always right and live for the moment he is not.
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A person who is always right can not have a moment when he is not. Just saying.
 

Dean S said:
A person who is always right can not have a moment when he is not. Just saying.
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Please cite one instance, just one, of me ever stating or even insinuating that I'm "always right". One. Just a single, solitary reference. I will leave this board forever and never come back if you can. I'll be waiting.

Since you won't find one, I kindly ask that you withdraw and apologize for your inflammatory and libelous remarks forthwith. Thank you in advance.
 

Dean S said:
A person who is always right can not have a moment when he is not. Just saying.
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I'm finding this back and forth totally hilarious. Thanks.:clap:

Then again, as most everyone knows, I have a strange sense of humor.
 

dpodoll68 said:
Please cite one instance, just one, of me ever stating or even insinuating that I'm "always right". One. Just a single, solitary reference. I will leave this board forever and never come back if you can. I'll be waiting.

Since you won't find one, I kindly ask that you withdraw and apologize for your inflammatory and libelous remarks forthwith. Thank you in advance.
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dpodoll68 said:
Unbelievably wrong (and delusional/ignorant to common sense) >>>>>>>> Deal with it!

(P.S. People don't argue with me because I "never have a clue". It's because I'm almost always right, and people don't like being told when they're wrong. They often lash out when told/proven to be so. This thread being a perfect case study.)
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Don't leave though!
 


dpodoll68 said:
Please cite one instance, just one, of me ever stating or even insinuating that I'm "always right". One. Just a single, solitary reference. I will leave this board forever and never come back if you can. I'll be waiting.

Since you won't find one, I kindly ask that you withdraw and apologize for your inflammatory and libelous remarks forthwith. Thank you in advance.
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How's the search going, Dean? I assume that you're still looking since you haven't withdrawn your comment nor issued an apology.
 

Dpodoll68, can you tell me how I can reference back beyond your past 500 posts, I wanted to pull up the picture of the airplane you took that had the random business people (new head coach) that gained you your famed gopherhole 2010 mvp award you proudly display. Can i get permission from you to use that as my avatar. It was a great pic.
 

SDGopherFan said:
Dpodoll68, can you tell me how I can reference back beyond your past 500 posts, I wanted to pull up the picture of the airplane you took that had the random business people (new head coach) that gained you your famed gopherhole 2010 mvp award you proudly display. Can i get permission from you to use that as my avatar. It was a great pic.
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Sure.

http://www.forums.gopherhole.com/boards/showthread.php?24067-Think-they-re-close-to-the-announcement

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After re-reading that thread in its entirety, I'm reminded of how much I love this freakin' board.
 

http://chronicle.com/article/Freeh-Group-Member-Criticizes/133213/

An interview with an anonymous member of Louis Freeh's investigative group disagrees with the NCAA using the report as the main basis for their punishment.

Some choice quotes:

"The Freeh team reviewed how Penn State operated, not how they worked within the NCAA's system. The NCAA's job is to investigate whether Penn State broke its rules and whether it gained a competitive advantage in doing so."

"The NCAA took this report and ran with it without further exploration. If you really wanted to show there was a nexus to cover up, interview the coaches. See their knowledge and culpability and how far this went."

The NCAA's approach is not sitting well with the source close to Mr. Freeh's staff.

"The sanctions against Penn State were really overwhelming, and no one imagined the report being used to do that. People thought it would help others draw conclusions about what happened and provide a guide for leaders to be able to identify minefields and navigate through them.

"Instead, Emmert took the report and used Penn State's own resources to do them in. The institution is made of people, too. And they don't deserve this."
 

Doll makes this place better. Sometimes i say somethin dumb and he takes me to task. big deal. If I meet him he can select a drink each quarter at a goph game and it is on me.
 

Sandusky contacted "shower victim" two months before charges, basically wanted to go on a date...nice.

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"Along with the statement, the lawyers released voicemails that Sandusky purportedly left for the man last fall - less than two months before his arrest on child-molestation charges - in which he expressed his love, said he wanted to share his feelings ''up front,'' and asked whether Victim 2 would like to attend Penn State's next game."

Yikes.
 


Any lawyers who know how this works? It sounds a bit like a derivative suit where a shareholder sues against the wishes of management and the board. Usually, I believe there is a high bar for this type of action.
 



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