Cobbs and Royce White were two very good PG recruits. Honestly the two best we’ve had in 25 years. I know Royce is too tall and not traditional enough for you, but he was recruited with that intent and played point at ISU. Nolan was a good point guard. Just don’t think it was Tubbys biggest flaw and reason for demise here.
Though tubbys teams were big and plodding. Now we like Mbakwe and Williams (Neither are plodding imo, but you used the term). Again, Dre had a nice first years. When we talk about Otz we don’t talk about his bubble and how they barely got in vs an NIT team? Thought you either make it or you don’t?
Joseph left the team too. That’s why, he lost both ball handlers that year.
I was one and I stand by it. He overhauled Utah too.
I’d take zakai zeigler over anyone on the current roster at pg.
Me too. I love his game. Sad he chose TN.
But with an actual resume that includes head coaching success, they are like to be given more slack. I’m with Ben but that doesn’t preclude me from asking questions about what is going on and observing shortcomings.
Does his game differ from anyone on Mn roster? If yes, how?
Mn guard play can be rationalized all day ever day. It’s poor. A true guard that can penetrate and run an offense is desperately needed. One that makes the team better. I don’t see that currently.
Cobbs was a Cousy finalist. Yes we haven’t had a PG on that level. Just cause he was a mid 3 star recruit doesn’t take away how good he became. Royce was the best recruit we’ve had since Humphries if you want to use rankings. he ran point for ISU and was going to do so here. Just cause he was tall doesn’t mean he wasn’t one. He brought it up in HS too. So yes from a production and talent standpoint, they were the two best PG recruits we’ve had. It sucks we didn’t reap the rewards of it here. Some of that can be on Tubby, some of it was bad luck/bad choices. PG woes/bad luck can be attributed to Tubbys struggles, but he recruited the position well. PG play wasn’t our killer imo anyways, offensive system? Sure, not enough scoring on the wing? Yeah.
Very scrappy on ball defender. Very quick, pretty much what everyone whines about Cooper not having, Zakai does. He gets a little out of control and is a little undersized, but he’s a nice player.
Would you take him over any Mn player that plays mostly guard?
My whole point is that all comparisons are laughable... and pointless. Each situation is different. There is absolutely NO telling what any other coach would do at MN. There is no telling what Johnson would be doing had he been hired at Directional State.
I don’t differentiate between guards and wings so I would take him over Cooper, Henley, Ramburg, Purcell, and Samuels. Toss up on Carrington and No to Battle. What does that have to do with whining or fact? Dudes a good player and visited here. Then TN came in late and got him.
We were looking good at the time for him but he chose to reclassify and the rest is history.
Now you are worried about some players being so good that they leave early? You are the sort that will win the lottery but then complain about the taxes!
I think zz would be a huge upgrade in making the team better offensively. He’s the type of guard I like at one position.
Thanks for the kind words. Let me be the first to say that I was as stunned and disappointed as anyone when Johnson was hired. I would have loved to have hired someone with a track record of success elsewhere. But Coyle and the administration made the decision so we have to live with it.
Good work.
Royce brought the ball up and initiated ISUs offense pretty much anytime he was in the game. If that isn’t a point guard then I don’t know what you call one. He did it at Hopkins and was recruited to do so at MN. I had in’s with the Pulley guys back then. I know what Royce was told when he was committing here.
Holloman can handle ball pressure and run an offense in his sleep. Very good defender. He didn’t get worked by Bama or Oregon. God love Cal Baptist and UNLV but they ain’t taking Holloman to the woodshed.
His wart is him three point shot…
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