Shedeur Sanders’ Slide in NFL Draft Cost Him $44 Million

[WoodburyTim]

Mentioning Whitlock and Jemelle Hill in the same sentence is wild as they're polar opposites.

Also, while I don't personally think race was much of a factor in the Sanders situation, the folks that somehow manage to act offended at the suggestion that race is an issue are hilarious to me. They get way more up in arms about the idea of unfounded accusations of racism than they do about the actual factual racism and affects of it that are all over the place.

Also, all those

All these guys played before the mock draft boom and before social media. Also pretty much all of these guys had known and obvious weaknesses everyone knew about and most played in offenses that weren't considered pro style. So no offense but that's kind of a weak argument. The reality is that this was more about the mock draft media than anything else. And the truth is that however you want to label it, Sanders being a brash, cocky, jewelry wearing black kid was seen as a 'flag' for a lot of folks. What roll it played in NFL teams evaluations is impossible to tell. What I will say is that it's clear he has real physical limitations and that's the biggest, most obvious factor in him being a late round pick

I get what you are oleboy, but I do think that outrage or taking massive offense to a charge of racism is natural. It’s a serious thing to allege(as it should be) that can ruin people whether it is true or not.

But I don’t really think race was much of a factor in Sanders case. I think that many “experts” and mock drafters spent well over a year pretending to know what the NFL thought of Sanders and they were way off. And those folks hate it when the curtain gets pulled back on the fact that were really just guessing.

 

[mcrow47]

I get what you are oleboy, but I do think that outrage or taking massive offense to a charge of racism is natural. It’s a serious thing to allege(as it should be) that can ruin people whether it is true or not.

But I don’t really think race was much of a factor in Sanders case. I think that many “experts” and mock drafters spent well over a year pretending to know what the NFL thought of Sanders and they were way off. And those folks hate it when the curtain gets pulled back on the fact that were really just guessing.

I don't think the NFL took race into consideration. I think the NFL will draft anyone high they thing will win games. It's more the media reaction calling it racism. NFL does not care. There are plenty of black QBs in the league and most of them don't act like complete jackasses.

 

[A_Slab_of_Bacon]

I think there will always be polarizing because of his playing style. Manziel being the other glaring example. The scrambling gunslinger is fun to watch and very effective in college and it makes sense that we want that style to be effective in the NFL, but it just isn’t.

I think running QBs seem like they give you more "options" on the surface, but generally running QBs are running around because they couldn't find an option... and that's not really a good thing.

 

[Schnauzer]

I'm not sure Arch is a #1 overall lock.

Right! If not, that is why the Browns WOULD go after him. Its the Browns we're talking about.

 

[WoodburyTim]

I don't think the NFL took race into consideration. I think the NFL will draft anyone high they thing will win games. It's more the media reaction calling it racism. NFL does not care. There are plenty of black QBs in the league and most of them don't act like complete jackasses.

The NFL cares about money and winning. You can always count on that.

 

[MNVCGUY]

And the truth is that however you want to label it, Sanders being a brash, cocky, jewelry wearing black kid was seen as a 'flag' for a lot of folks. What roll it played in NFL teams evaluations is impossible to tell. What I will say is that it's clear he has real physical limitations and that's the biggest, most obvious factor in him being a late round pick

What you mention here may certainly be an issue for some people but the NFL will overlook all of that if they think a kid can play.

Now you combine a bad attitude with some ability but not top flight talent and you get a 5th round draft pick

 

[Unregistered User]

There are plenty of black QBs in the league and most of them don't act like complete jackasses.

You could have simplified that sentence to read: "There are plenty of QBs in the league and most of them don't act like complete jackasses."

 

[MNVCGUY]

I think running QBs seem like they give you more "options" on the surface, but generally running QBs are running around because they couldn't find an option... and that's not really a good thing.

Yeah in the NFL you have to be able to throw. You get guys like Jackson and Daniels who can really be threats on the ground or guys like Hurts and Allen who are essentially goal line backs when their team gets down there......but for the most part running QBs just don't last long in the NFL.

 

[A_Slab_of_Bacon]

You could have simplified that sentence to read: "There are plenty of QBs in the league and most of them don't act like complete jackasses."

I think his point is that it's not likely racism if nobody has a problem picking up black QBs generally.

 

[mcrow47]

I think his point is that it's not likely racism if nobody has a problem picking up black QBs generally.

Yes, there were people in the media saying the NFL doesn't like black culture trying to put off Sanders behavior as being normal black behavior. My point that it is not and you can see how the other QBs who happen to be black conduct themselves as proof it's not normal. It was being made out they're hating on him for being a black man. But when I look at Lamar Jackson and the others in the league, this is not how they acted. This is a Sanders being a privileged jackass issue, not a race issue. And as you said, I don't think there's any case to be made that black players are being held back from being QBs anymore.