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Bob_Loblaw said:
Texas played in the semi-finals last year and they went 13-3. They went 12-2 the year before that (top 5 in the country) and 10-3 this year.

You don't think they have a better chance of playing in big games, CFP and winning next year than the Gophers?


If he goes to USC or Florida, sure, it's about the money.
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Sure they do, and as I said winning would be a perk, but those are about exposure first in my opinion. Again, I'm sure they would all prefer to win, but being on TV all the time with a big paycheck means more.
 

Clairemont Gopher said:
It's like PJ says, we are a "developmental program". We have to expect to lose some really good players and we were lucky to have had Perich for two years.
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We should get out of the "development program". As if we developed KP and he got so good the door bell began to ring from the blue bloods. Nobody really knows why he choose to leave. It is not because he developed into a top portal player.
 






Ewert86PC said:
I'm going to disagree that Coyle is "soft" and assert that monetary donors to the U are hard on athletics. The U helped create and/or significantly grow companies like Control Data Corp, Medtronic, Cray Research, Honeywell, St Jude Medical, Cargill, and General Mills.

Many of these companies wanted to donate to areas where they would get direct returns like the I.T. dept, Medical School and Ag School. The U was trend laggards in getting alumni to develop endowments, in general with no large efforts starting until the early 1980s.

When they did start on endowments, the athletic department was ostracized by administration because it was easier to say "Hey, you are a leader in widgets and we have an exemplary widget school, which you went to by the way, so why not make sure it gets the funding it needs?"

Any athletic donations or endowments targeted Title IX efforts because of the misandry directed at revenue generating sports. Financial support, idealistically, went to shoring up non-revenue generating sports. This is why football got banished to the MetroDump, er, HHH Metrdome and the U started to lose sports revenues, because they were "sharing" them with non-University facilities and organizations.

Administrators became complacent with the lower athletic revenues believing their idealism was working. It was working until other schools started making efforts to upgrade and expand their sports to generate more revenues from more sports.

It was at this point the U employed the Ostrich method for handling finances school-wide. The wagons were circled because the moneyed crowd was going to attack the intellectual crowd. The focus was on delivering academic results and the pressure chipped away at integrity and accountability which is how we wound up with the last three decades of academic scandals at the U.

The administration also started hawking the behaviors of athletes once the balance tipped towards academic scandals outweighing athletic ones.

The StarTribune ran an article on the scandals at the U over the last decade or so because they have been so egregious. I would post a link to it, but I don't want to force their paywall on anyone.

When I say that the U has an integrity problem, I mean it Academic scandals, particularly financially related ones, have grown at an alarming rate. They outpaced any athletic ones. It seems like they are trying to keep academic funding growth at a pace with the NIL effect in athletics. They seem to be continuing to steer donations away from athletics thinking it will improve academic results. This takes the donors intentions out of the donors hands. What donors wants to feel that they have minimal control of their donations?

That same "lack of donation control" brush does paint over the athletic department. People want to donate to save Men's Gymnastics only to be essentially told "No". That is both an athletic and academic administrative blunder.

So I don't think Coyle is soft in terms of generating donations, I think the U, as a whole, has administrators who love exercising an entitlement to overreach their power limits.
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Please don't expect a 2000 word response, it's a Friday and also a low-stakes interaction for me.
Coyle is not solely responsible for the shortcomings of our ability to fundraise, but he IS part of the problem. Anyone in his role must also be working tirelessly to change the administration from within....because to fail there, is to fail. Happy new year.
 











Mr. 131 said:
Please don't expect a 2000 word response, it's a Friday and also a low-stakes interaction for me.
Coyle is not solely responsible for the shortcomings of our ability to fundraise, but he IS part of the problem. Anyone in his role must also be working tirelessly to change the administration from within....because to fail there, is to fail. Happy new year.
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I'm simply saying the current situation was set in motion decades ago, and there are unidentified parties who benefit from it being the status quo.
 

Ewert86PC said:
I'm simply saying the current situation was set in motion decades ago, and there are unidentified parties who benefit from it being the status quo.
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Tell me more about the unidentified parties who benefit from the status quo. I am not rage-baiting you, you clearly have a lot of history with this University and I want to hear more.
 


Koi has seen two Gopher DCs. Hetherington last year, and Danny Collins this year. Koi prospered under Hetherington, who this year has Miami in the CFP semi-finals. Miami is awash in NIL cash. Maybe Koi is headed to Miami?
 


Mr. 131 said:
Tell me more about the unidentified parties who benefit from the status quo. I am not rage-baiting you, you clearly have a lot of history with this University and I want to hear more.
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Well, they are unidentified because I can't identify them. That's usually how it works.

I'm an alumni of UMN, 1986. I was there when this started to fester. I've watched it grow over time.
 
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I think it’s entirely possible we offered him less money for next year because of his play on the field and he said good bye. This might be a mutual parting where we feel we can make better use of that money elsewhere.
 

Maybe we should let this play out before we have too mch to say about Koi.

There are a lot of reasons he might have based the decision on.

Koi didn't create the current system, but he has every right to explore his options. He might stay? It will be a big loss if he leaves.

Whatever he ultimately decides, hate the game not the player.
 

Gopherchase said:
The moments did happen with him. The pick at the end of the game against USC as a freshman and the pick six to kind of single-handedly win a game this year two easy examples. He faltered a bit this year Cal being the easiest example and just didn’t seem to be having that much fun here.
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Purdue game this year and he had a great returning game with NW, had another really nice return against Rutgers that we failed to take advantage of as well. Koi also apparently quietest 80 plus tackle season a guy like him could have
 

MaxyJR1 said:
Left guard at Vanderbilt. RT at tOSU. Bucky. LB at FAU likely now transferring back to P4.
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Stolsky isn't as good of a linebacker as Kingsberry or Mav. Hell he probably wasn't as good as Gerlach, Karmo or Carrier otherwise he wouldn't have left in the first place for Boca Raton
 


caliGopher said:
Maybe we should let this play out before we have too mch to say about Koi.
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Speak for yourself. My day is ruined.

If I had a Koi jersey, I’d film myself balling it up and throwing it emphatically into the fire pit before setting it aflame all before uploading the video to social media.

I am very, very upset right now.
 

Based on the timing, I wonder if they sat him down after the bowl game and told him he would be getting less NIL $$.
 



PeoplesFront said:
Speak for yourself. My day is ruined.

If I had a Koi jersey, I’d film myself balling it up and throwing it emphatically into the fire pit before setting it aflame all before uploading the video to social media.

I am very, very upset right now.
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Times like these are when I remind myself of the old Chinese proverb about the man and the horse.
The Maybe Story (Chinese Farmer) — Matterco.co https://share.google/Hzdm35cuZzFbAI19F
 


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