Illinois QB Chris Streveler a Gopher commit

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Reminds me of the NW QB that ran all over us for two years.
 


Here's who Streveler reminds me of at this point:

Chandler Harnish didn't have any other offers when he committed to Northern Illinois in August 2006 (see Rivals link below, Harnish was a 2-star QB). Rivals says he was only looked at by Ball State. He ran a 4.66 40 coupled with a 3.96 G.P.A.

As a senior, he threw for 28 TD's with only 6 interceptions. The 6'2" QB ran for another 1300 yards and 11 TD's.

He was 14 of 24 against Wisconsin for 160 yards in his only game against a Big Ten opponent as a senior.

As a junior, he torched Illinois and beat Minnesota in Big Ten competition.

Vs. Illinois: Air: 19-25, 208 yards Ground: 11 rushes, 101 yards

Vs Minnesota: 11-17, 70 yards (their tailback had a monster game)

Source for recruiting info: http://rivals.yahoo.com/minnesota/f...rnish-53156;_ylt=AlUUnfjXc9RUc.XU8KiByzPUspB4
 

It seems to me Kill makes use of QBs in other ways as well. Given his present depth at QB, he may be thinking around those lines. Anyways, it does not strike me that Kill just flippantly throws out Scholarships to any player that has a good moment. He has something in mind for the young man.
 

Purple Gator said:
Agreed! We are the University of Minnesota. We should be getting big names. I would feel better if he was thinking about going to USC, OSU, or FSU. We are suppose to be happy because we took somebody away from SDSU? Oh weary me... Has the bar been set extremely low or is it just me?
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It's just you.
 



I know everyone is talking about having plenty of QB depth, but I don't know that that's the case.
Gray is a senior.
Shortell is a Soph and not changing positions.
Foreman - some say he may be more of a wildcat, change of pace QB. Others have said he may change positions.
Nelson.
Leidner - people say he may switch positions.
Which means, after Gray, we have two QBs and two guys who may switch positions. That's not a lot. So, now we add a guy who may be a diamond in the rough - or who may change positions.
 

Redbeard said:
I know everyone is talking about having plenty of QB depth, but I don't know that that's the case.
Gray is a senior.
Shortell is a Soph and not changing positions.
Foreman - some say he may be more of a wildcat, change of pace QB. Others have said he may change positions.
Nelson.
Leidner - people say he may switch positions.
Which means, after Gray, we have two QBs and two guys who may switch positions. That's not a lot. So, now we add a guy who may be a diamond in the rough - or who may change positions.
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I don't think Shortell and Leidner are ideal for this offense anyway. Streveler looks like a better fit. He might not have the offers, but it is only June, and it's not like he wasn't on anyone's radar.
 

wels0081 said:
Here's who Streveler reminds me of at this point:

Chandler Harnish didn't have any other offers when he committed to Northern Illinois in August 2006 (see Rivals link below, Harnish was a 2-star QB). Rivals says he was only looked at by Ball State. He ran a 4.66 40 coupled with a 3.96
As a senior, he threw for 28 TD's with only 6 interceptions. The 6'2" QB ran for another 1300 yards and 11 TD's.

He was 14 of 24 against Wisconsin for 160 yards in his only game against a Big Ten opponent as a senior.

As a junior, he torched Illinois and beat Minnesota in Big Ten competition.

Vs. Illinois: Air: 19-25, 208 yards Ground: 11 rushes, 101 yards

Vs Minnesota: 11-17, 70 yards (their tailback had a monster game)

Source for recruiting info: http://rivals.yahoo.com/minnesota/f...rnish-53156;_ylt=AlUUnfjXc9RUc.XU8KiByzPUspB4
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Maybe it's not such a good idea to offer a MAC level quarterback.
 





Johnnyboy18 said:
Adam Weber.
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Adam Weber?? He was never better then Harnish, LeFevour, or Nate Davis. Going back further you have Leftwich, Roethlisberger, Pennington, Omar Jacobs. All these guys were at the VERY least equal to any qb we've had in recent history.
 

btowngopher said:
I don't think Shortell and Leidner are ideal for this offense anyway. Streveler looks like a better fit. He might not have the offers, but it is only June, and it's not like he wasn't on anyone's radar.
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Wha??? Why did Limegrover and Kill recruit him? Why has he practiced at QB? Am I missing something?
 



btowngopher said:
Adam Weber?? He was never better then Harnish, LeFevour, or Nate Davis. Going back further you have Leftwich, Roethlisberger, Pennington, Omar Jacobs. All these guys were at the VERY least equal to any qb we've had in recent history.
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He had more offers than any of these guys out of high school if he would of went to the MAC i guarantee he would of had more success than any of those quarterbacks.
 

Johnnyboy18 said:
He had more offers than any of these guys out of high school if he would of went to the MAC i guarantee he would of had more success than any of those quarterbacks.
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Your logic is incredibly flawed. Don't get me wrong, I think that Adam Weber is and was a very good QB who's lack of success had more to do with the coach and team around him than his own skill level (although he was not without his faults), but if you think that had he gone to a MAC school he would have been better than Ben Roethlisberger was then you are delusional. Same goes for Leftwich and Pennington. The other people on the list are arguable as well but the three I mentioned above were top 20 NFL Draft picks. Are you saying that if Weber went to say Miami University he would have also been a top 20 pick? I think virtually everyone, and I don't just mean on this board, would disagree.
 

It's a Pig Man! said:
Your logic is incredibly flawed. Don't get me wrong, I think that Adam Weber is and was a very good QB who's lack of success had more to do with the coach and team around him than his own skill level (although he was not without his faults), but if you think that had he gone to a MAC school he would have been better than Ben Roethlisberger was then you are delusional. Same goes for Leftwich and Pennington. The other people on the list are arguable as well but the three I mentioned above were top 20 NFL Draft picks. Are you saying that if Weber went to say Miami University he would have also been a top 20 pick? I think virtually everyone, and I don't just mean on this board, would disagree.
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If Weber was on a better team he would have done better.
 

highwayman said:
Wha??? Why did Limegrover and Kill recruit him? Why has he practiced at QB? Am I missing something?
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highwayman, do not, I repeat do not, try make sense of GopherHolers whose comments prove that they know more about a recruit than Kill and his staff do. :rolleyes:
 

Purple Gator said:
If Weber was on a better team he would have done better.
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I don't disagree with you in the least bit. In fact, I mentioned in my post that I think that Weber's lack of success as a Golden Gopher (from a team perspective anyway) was due more to the lack of talent around him, the constant changing of the system, and the lack of coaching ability of one Tim Brewster. However, IMO the notion that had Weber played in the MAC he would have had a more successful college career than Ben Roethlisberger, Chad Pennington, and Byron Leftwich is ridiculous. Again, I think that Weber was a very good college quarterback who overcame quite a bit to have the mediocre success that he had here, I just don't at all agree with what JohnnyBoy18 posted.
 

highwayman said:
Wha??? Why did Limegrover and Kill recruit him? Why has he practiced at QB? Am I missing something?
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He was a pretty late addition and had the possibility of being moved to tight end. Also we needed depth. Not knocking anyone, I just think that a dual threat QB is more ideal in this offense. I know Kill has had success with both types throughout his career, but I think a dual threat qb makes his offense more dynamic. I can't have the opinion that a certain player is a better fit?
 

It's a Pig Man! said:
I don't disagree with you in the least bit. In fact, I mentioned in my post that I think that Weber's lack of success as a Golden Gopher (from a team perspective anyway) was due more to the lack of talent around him, the constant changing of the system, and the lack of coaching ability of one Tim Brewster. However, IMO the notion that had Weber played in the MAC he would have had a more successful college career than Ben Roethlisberger, Chad Pennington, and Byron Leftwich is ridiculous. Again, I think that Weber was a very good college quarterback who overcame quite a bit to have the mediocre success that he had here, I just don't at all agree with what JohnnyBoy18 posted.
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My whole point was we could do a hell of a lot worse then having a "mac level" qb.
 

btowngopher said:
My whole point was we could do a hell of a lot worse then having a "mac level" qb.
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I was completely agreeing with you and in fact supporting your point so I'm not really sure why you are quoting me. I do disagree with what you just posted however. If streveler is a "MAC level QB", then he probably won't have very much success here. However, there are plenty of talented players who are overlooked by the big boys and have tremendous success at "mid-major" schools (Roethlisberger, Leftwich, and Pennington being a few who you pointed out earlier). the point that I, and I'm pretty sure you as well, am trying to make is that just because a player doesn't get BCS offers doesn't mean that they aren't quality players who could in fact compete at the BCS level. If that were the case then there wouldn't be any players in the NFL from non BCS schools, which we all know isn't the case. Now is Streveler going to have great success at the University of Minnesota? No one can possibly know this but if coach Kill saw enough in him to extend a scholarship offer then he obviously thinks that he can and that's good enough for me for the time being.
 

It's a Pig Man! said:
I don't disagree with you in the least bit. In fact, I mentioned in my post that I think that Weber's lack of success as a Golden Gopher (from a team perspective anyway) was due more to the lack of talent around him, the constant changing of the system, and the lack of coaching ability of one Tim Brewster. However, IMO the notion that had Weber played in the MAC he would have had a more successful college career than Ben Roethlisberger, Chad Pennington, and Byron Leftwich is ridiculous. Again, I think that Weber was a very good college quarterback who overcame quite a bit to have the mediocre success that he had here, I just don't at all agree with what JohnnyBoy18 posted.
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Obviously it's ridiculous to talk about wouldas and couldas, but weber threw for 2800 yards and 24 tds as freshman and was all big ten as a sophomore. It's not out of the realm of imagination to believe that he might have developed into a top 20 draft pick and on par with those qbs had he had a better environment to play in.
 

bigtenchamps1899 said:
Obviously it's ridiculous to talk about wouldas and couldas, but weber threw for 2800 yards and 24 tds as freshman and was all big ten as a sophomore. It's not out of the realm of imagination to believe that he might have developed into a top 20 draft pick and on par with those qbs had he had a better environment to play in.
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I suppose it's not out of the realm of imagination but I sincerely doubt it. The guy wasn't even drafted so to think that a change of scenery would have gotten him into the top 20 is pretty out there IMO. also when you look at the QBs taken in the first 20 picks in 2011 (Newton, Locker, Gabbert, Ponder) and then some of the guys taken after that (Dalton, Kaepernick, Mallett) it becomes even more unlikely. However, I want to make it clear that I think that Weber was a very good QB here and that he didn't really get a fair shake. I just don't think that he would have had as successful of a career as Roethlisberger, Pennington, and Leftwich had. He would have probably been more in the realm of the Nate Davis's and Dan LeFevours (who had very good college careers). This is obviously just my opinion and everyone else is entitled to theirs I just think that JohnnyBoy18 made a pretty bold statement and I disagreed.
 

Killjoy said:
You might want to look into how TCU and Boise State have recruited recruit lower rated and been very successful to better understanding what Coach Kill is doing. Particularly the early years at TCF for Coach Patterson before he was able to recruit higher rated recruits.
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The problem with this line of logic is that for every Boise State there are 100 small programs that suck.

It is what it is. Kill can offer whoever he wants. I just don't like that argument.
 

bigtenchamps1899 said:
Obviously it's ridiculous to talk about wouldas and couldas, but weber threw for 2800 yards and 24 tds as freshman and was all big ten as a sophomore. It's not out of the realm of imagination to believe that he might have developed into a top 20 draft pick and on par with those qbs had he had a better environment to play in.
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Of course it's possible, although incredibly highley unlikely.


Weber had a pretty good set up here though. He didn't have any competition, he started all 4 seasons, he passed a lot, he had Decker for 3 seasons. . .

While the Brew years weren't good for the program, it's hard to argue that they weren't somewhat beneficial to Adam Weber. It seems a bit misleading to point to Weber's stats in our program and then argue that if it wasn't for the state of our program he would have been better.

Adam Weber had every opportunity to succeed and in a lot of ways he did succeed. I just think it's a giant leap to assume that the U held him back in any way. He started 4 years, played all the time, threw all the time, and had a legit NFL WR for 3 of those years.
 

Weber is also a #2 QB on an NFL team. Probably puts him as a top 100 QB in the world.
 

It is another dead period?

Replacement Gopher said:
Weber is also a #2 QB on an NFL team. Probably puts him as a top 100 QB in the world.
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It must be because when it is we always go back to same old Weber arguments. I am so tired of them I could scream but I sure do miss those bounces passes Weber used to throw.
 

Replacement Gopher said:
Weber is also a #2 QB on an NFL team. Probably puts him as a top 100 QB in the world.
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I'm not even sure that this is true. Brock Osweiller very well may be the #2 for Denver. I hope Weber gets a shot in the NFL though, I think he could do well.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
Of course it's possible, although incredibly highley unlikely.


Weber had a pretty good set up here though. He didn't have any competition, he started all 4 seasons, he passed a lot, he had Decker for 3 seasons. . .

While the Brew years weren't good for the program, it's hard to argue that they weren't somewhat beneficial to Adam Weber. It seems a bit misleading to point to Weber's stats in our program and then argue that if it wasn't for the state of our program he would have been better.

Adam Weber had every opportunity to succeed and in a lot of ways he did succeed. I just think it's a giant leap to assume that the U held him back in any way. He started 4 years, played all the time, threw all the time, and had a legit NFL WR for 3 of those years.
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holding a player back can occur in a lot of ways. The argument could be made (not saying it necessarily is a good argument or anything of that sort) that Weber was held back by MN because of the flux of coordinators and the lack of development he seemed to have at the U. Weber's best years were his first two (in my opinion) and he seemed to regress as the years went on due to being hit constantly and the flux at the U. This could be said to be majorly holding a player and especially a QB back. Just getting to play all 4 years and getting to throw a lot isn't necessarily good for developing and progressing a QB. Just an honest and logical argument that could be made.
 

dlw4gophers said:
Hey John. How many time have you seen this kid play or even evaluated him at camp? Kill wants him and thats is good enough for me. JERRY, JERRY, JERRY!!!!!!!!!!
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So I'm assuming you also believe Jerry Kill is smarter and better at evaluating than any other BCS Conference coach in America?

You can't have it both ways. You can't chide those who question why the kid has no other BCS offers because they're not football coaches, but also blindly back the coach who recruited him when no other coaches in BCS conferences did.
 

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