Gilthorp57
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He may be, but the point is Tressel Ball doesn't work unless you have OSU talent and we're a bit lacking....I think fleck is better than hazel
He may be, but the point is Tressel Ball doesn't work unless you have OSU talent and we're a bit lacking....I think fleck is better than hazel
do you think he maybe isn’t?He may be,
Then why play your starters at all? The starting offense was on the field down 34 late in the 4th quarter. That's really stupid if your only goal is to avoid injuries to key players.Really don’t get people freaking out about this game.
Fleck very clearly, very obviously had a plan going into it: get in, get out as quick as possible with as few injuries as possible.
End of story.
We were never going to win this game, no matter what.
Why give OSU offense more possessions? Why let them score more points?
I’m actually perfectly fine with it today.
Freaking out about Purdue was/is completely justified.
Move on. Beat Wisc. Pig & Axe in the same year. Win the bowl game.
Really don’t get people freaking out about this game.
Fleck very clearly, very obviously had a plan going into it: get in, get out as quick as possible with as few injuries as possible.
End of story.
We were never going to win this game, no matter what.
Why give OSU offense more possessions? Why let them score more points?
I’m actually perfectly fine with it today.
Freaking out about Purdue was/is completely justified.
Move on. Beat Wisc. Pig & Axe in the same year. Win the bowl game.
I don’t know that anybody is freaking out and you’ll have to excuse some of us that completely disagree with mailing it in. Hell, just play our back ups then the whole game if we want to keep from getting our front line guys injured. In the first half when things maybe barely arguably could’ve been still up in the air, you don’t play call and then punt line PJ did. Pure Puss. Perhaps it’s the head coach hangover and distraction but Maryland gave Michigan a game today. There’s no excuse in life for not trying to win.Really don’t get people freaking out about this game.
Fleck very clearly, very obviously had a plan going into it: get in, get out as quick as possible with as few injuries as possible.
End of story.
We were never going to win this game, no matter what.
Why give OSU offense more possessions? Why let them score more points?
I’m actually perfectly fine with it today.
Freaking out about Purdue was/is completely justified.
Move on. Beat Wisc. Pig & Axe in the same year. Win the bowl game.
If I'm not mistaken, Hazzel came straight from OSU, PJ had time to cut his teeth at WMU and had the chance to build a program at a lower level.do you think he maybe isn’t?
I think if you think hazzel might be as good as fleck you should check into a mental institutionIf I'm not mistaken, Hazzel came straight from OSU, PJ had time to cut his teeth at WMU and had the chance to build a program at a lower level.
I can see the argument for that. Fans have been wandering lost in the desert, occasionally tasting water and maybe even tea, then they get a taste of sweet, sweet wine. There is a dissatisfaction when the wine jug runs dry, there is no tea and all that remains is water. Right now people are trying to convince each other that if we get more tea it will be just like wine.There certainly are raised expectations. But that’s not what the topic at hand was.
Do you think the 2019 season was bad for the program?
All I'm saying, it might have benefited Hazzel to go to a MAC school and work on the nuances of being a head coach. Having a B1G job as a first head coaching is a lot. Some people cant handle it. I'm sorry if you don't agree with my assessment, I'm well in control of my mental facilities thank you very much.I think if you think hazzel might be as good as fleck you should check into a mental institution
Exactly use it as practice, empty the depths of the playbook and bring your wildest ideas.I don’t know that anybody is freaking out and you’ll have to excuse some of us that completely disagree with mailing it in. Hell, just play our back ups then the whole game if we want to keep from getting our front line guys injured. In the first half when things maybe barely arguably could’ve been still up in the air, you don’t play call and then punt line PJ did. Pure Puss. Perhaps it’s the head coach hangover and distraction but Maryland gave Michigan a game today. There’s no excuse in life for not trying to win.
SC victimI believe the term is mental faculties
No, it's not silly. It's a class war being waged for donor funds. Donors have a finite amount of dollars to contribute and are being bombarded with requests for donations. Research can be funded above and beyond federal grant. There are foundations and non-profits that provide additional funding. Academic funding isn't a one source thing.Research grants are funded largely by government agencies and have absolutely nothing to do with college athletics.
There is absolutely zero “threat” to academia and its research machinery from athletics.
Just silly to even talk about that
You’re insane.All I'm saying, it might have benefited Hazzel to go to a MAC school and work on the nuances of being a head coach. Having a B1G job as a first head coaching is a lot. Some people cant handle it. I'm sorry if you don't agree with my assessment, I'm well in control of my mental facilities thank you very much.
Have a good night, I said what I said, I hate repeating myself. It's OK to have a differing opinion and respect that person's viewpoint without the name calling. Don't have time for it.You’re insane.
You’re talking hazel right? The one from Purdue? I don’t have this wrong?
It is okay to have a differing opinion.Have a good night, I said what I said, I hate repeating myself. It's OK to have a differing opinion and respect that person's viewpoint without the name calling. Don't have time for it.
You don't know human nature and ego. That is the Achilles' Heel of Bureaucracy.You are just plain wrong.
Dollars that go to research never have been and never will be swayed one iota by athletics.
Reading comprehension may help you, I said Maybe...i never said Hazzel was a better coach. And for your information, I forgot he had a stop Kent State. No need to be an arrogant asshole.It is okay to have a differing opinion.
It is even okay to just make shit up.
You said hazel had a disadvantage because he never was a head coach. He was a coach at Kent state.
You said hazel is as good as fleck.
Hazel was 3-24 in the big ten
You have every right to think he is as good as fleck. And I have every right to think you should seek help.
Get some help
Got it. Maybe hazzel is a better coach.Reading comprehension may help you, I said Maybe...i never said Hazzel was a better coach. And for your information, I forgot he had a stop Kent State. No need to be an arrogant asshole.
Yeah, I'm good with Tressel-ball (only because it has worked), but they (TWO TIMES!) sent a bunch formation on one side with a lone receiver on the other on third-and-long. They (TWO TIMES!) drew man coverage. And they (TWO TIMES!) ran the ball on 3rd and 5+.I'm finally fully on board with some of the complaints many of you have had about offensive philosophy. The only chance you have to spring an upset against a team like Ohio State is to be aggressive and maximize every possession.
I can be ok with the idea of a punt from the opponents 43 if you are aggressively going after the first down and come up short. But in a game where you can't run, calling running plays on 3rd and 5 or 3rd and 6 isn't going to get it done. At least try a pass.....
Against a team like Ohio State any drive that gets into their territory should probably be viewed as 4 down territory. Especially knowing they are likely to drive down the field once they get the ball back.
I am firmly against the crowd saying Fleck should be fired after this year but I really hope he takes a hard look at some things after this season and makes some changes.
Playing calling the way we did, there’s no chance we even win 1. You can’t win if you don’t even try to win and we weren’t trying (the coaches) to win that game.No, PJ had no intention of even trying to win this game. All he wanted to do try to keep Ohio State under 50. Granted, you could play this game 100 times and the Buckeyes are winning 99 of them, but Fleck had no intention of tonight being the 1 miracle. You can’t shock the world when you don’t even give your team a fighting chance.
They could have easily put 70 on us....The good part about today was that OSU seemed to take it easy on us as we showed from the beginning that we had no intention of trying to win that game.
So you wouldn't mind losing 84-13 ?Its his own philosophy. It isn't the OC who is shackling the team. Fleck wants to try and lose by 35 or less. he thinks that makes him look better. He has no cojones.
Run/pass ratio is but one indicator of his conservatism. I started a list/diatribe, but it’s like yelling at the wind at this point, so I gave up. It’s merely one indicator on his philosophy that continues to crush a square peg into a circle hole, no matter what shaped hole is available.In my opinion. What changed is his team isn’t as good.
Running the ball =\= conservative IMO
He is definitely conservative. But it has more to do with decision making and broad strategy than run pass ratios