- Nov 20, 2008
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Or why play the game at all? Why not just concede beforehand and save everyone the trouble?Then why play your starters at all? The starting offense was on the field down 34 late in the 4th quarter. That's really stupid if your only goal is to avoid injuries to key players.
I really doubt Ohio State would have tensed up if we were within one score of them at any point in a game. There have been games to be pissed about PJ being too conservative and the defense just collapsing, but the Ohio State game isn't worth all the bitching. We could play them 10 times and I'd put a lot of money on them being 10-0 against us with the players the Gophers had on the field against them. Just beat the frick'n Badgers.Or if the more talented team plays well in the 2nd half.
The hope is that at 13-0 at halftime...the undefeated National-Championship-or-bust home-team tenses up. 1 mistake...and they're midway through the 3rd quarter within 1 score of losing.
But Ohio State came out after halftime and played very well.
Schedule 2024 I don't think anybody but you sees these games as gimmeesI’m not sure 9’wins is the ceiling.
Let’s look at next years schedule.
Losses in people’s minds:
Penn state (9-2)
Every other team on the schedule if the team doesn’t win it will be the end of the world.
So like, yeah 9-3 is the “ceiling”
Unless you beat penn state like 2019
Or unless you beat a 7-5 USC team
I can’t predict much more than 6 next year without seeing the roster.
The bigger issue for this program’s ceiling isn’t the schedule. The bigger issue is the roster.
I didn't include that as I'm not sure you get a free kick if there are zeros on the clock. He could've used two TOs to ensure time for a play after a punt, but then the risks that PJ worries about are more likely. Therefore, I didn't even include him using both TOs only 1.You're missing one thing. When you do move the ball to midfield and beyond, you need to take your shots and actually try to score TD's, not play the field position game and punt it away every time. It was 13 - 0 at the half, but it felt like 31 - 0 with the way we called plays all half.
That wasn’t my point.
Maybe, but I think the reason there is a meltdown on Gopherhole is the way we lose.That wasn’t my point.
I wasn’t saying they were gimme’s
I’m saying if they lose any of those games it will be the end of the world on gooherhole
There are meltdowns whether the team loses 9-6Maybe, but I think the reason there is a meltdown on Gopherhole is the way we lose.
Also, compared to the 6 games I listed I'd say the meltdown comments have been about games we coulda/shouda won.
He seems to have lost any ability to weigh risk and reward. He sees only risk. If he runs your list through his head, he sees only No. 7.I'm not sure this has been brought up, but gutless PJ proof can be found right before half. Fleck had TOs and didn't use them with OSU having a 4th and 12 from their own 19. Use the TOs and force them to punt! Possible outcomes:
1. Block punt for TD--GOOD
2. Block punt for safety--GOOD
3. Return punt for TD--GOOD
4. Muff punt (can be recovered but not returned)--end of half--ZERO RISK Neutral
6. Return and fumble--end of half ; ZERO RISK Neutral
7. Return and fumble recovery goes for TD--BAD
8. Rough punter--automatic first down; 1 more untimed play 64 yards from end zone--BAD but high probability of Neutral.
Plenty of upside (albeit rare); very limited downside...even more rare! To beat the #2 team in the country, you need a bounce or two. Fleck is too scared to even try to use a TO to get a bounce and thinks worst case scenario. LOSER MENTALITY!
I think we need to see what happens this off season before assuming he can't/won't change. He was coming off back to back 9 win seasons in 21 and 22, so it is understandable that he would have felt they were doing things right given the success the team was having.that's the real issue - a coach who either can't or won't change when things don't go the way he would prefer. Sure, more talent would help. but even with more talent, you have the same coach with the same inflexible philosophy.