Flip wants the job! Per Flips Funkadlic on KFAN

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AKA Bomber said:
Flip is a hoops junkie and has been to several high school games this year. Why? First, because "hoops" are Flips life. Second, I think he is building that relationship base by chance Tubby is out and Norwood has interest. If he does want the job he is definitely thinking this far ahead and I do think he wants it. I think Flip would be a terrific hire.

Can you imagine the player confidence out of a time-out after Flip has drawn up a play - they will believe. I don't think they believe right now under Tubby- our biggest problem. Heck, we don't even try to score on an inbound play under the basket. We see a zone and I don't think the players "believe" Tubby has the knowledge or creativity to beat it (same stuff since he arrived). For heaven sakes we can't for the life of us figure out the riddle to beat Northwestern on a consistent basis. I think the players do like Tubby but his lack of offensive playbook really shows. I like Tubby (a great guy) but I don't see any upside going into next year. I actually stopped really caring after we BEAT Iowa. I left the barn really upset. I was so jealous how well coached Iowa was. The strategy and movement on both ends of the court was top shelf. Iowa basketball is on the rise.

Lastly, it seems Flip and Izzo are best of friends back from his days in Detroit with the Pistons. If he is driven to beat and compete with his buddy (like most of us are in life), the Gophers will be in excellent company until Flip retires.

While I don't hold out much hope for Tubby, I will be back at the barn on Tuesday night cheering like heck for the players to succeed and beat #1. Chin up. We might lose by 20 but it has a chance to be a very magical night. I sure hope it is.
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Flip will compete with Tom Crean for the thickest playbook. The man has a compilation of plays he's kept from gradeschool! :p Flip would be great at isolating another teams weakness and exploiting it with specific plays from his arsenal.
 

You know Winasota --

My opinions are just that, opinions. We all have them, and none of us agree all the time.


But I try to support my opinions with evidence or facts or data when I make them public. What I posted about Flips history is supported by the facts.

What I said about Molitor was supported by the facts. Making the connections I did, MERE opinion, but opinion formed after looking at the facts.


Is some of it dreaming?! Sure. And my guess is that VCU fans who thought Shaka Smart might be a good hire and who may have expressed publicly that maybe he can get us some success in the Big Dance, probably were accused of being dreamers, too.
 

I wonder what people thought of the idiots who publicly stated that Barry Alvarez might be a good hire and that maybe he could get the Badgers to the Rose Bowl?!


I am sure that they were ridiculed for being not only dreamers, but probably idiots as well. Probably some of those people calling them idiots were Gopher fans.
 

Rouser said:
I am also confident he won't give in to the local shouts for flip and trent tucker.
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Why are these two repeatedly mentioned as if they are equal candidates??? Let's see, one has coached at 3 different levels for 30+ years. The other has never coached.

Flip is a fantastic candidate. In part because of his dedication to this mid-level (at best) program. He's also been in charge for a long time. Trent is on the radio.
 

GopherJake said:
Why are these two repeatedly mentioned as if they are equal candidates??? Let's see, one has coached at 3 different levels for 30+ years. The other has never coached.

Flip is a fantastic candidate. In part because of his dedication to this mid-level (at best) program. He's also been in charge for a long time. Trent is on the radio.
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Trent can work the word basketball into every sentence with his unique rhythmic speech pattern. Surely that must count for something?
 


My opinion:

I think Flip would be an excellent short term answer. I think he would immediately reinvigorate the fan base and get some optimism around this program once again. I'm not sure about recruiting over the long haul but I think he would have a step up on Tubby short term for our big three. They are all old enough to remember Flip during the Wolves "glory days" but young enough to where this likely occurred around the time they fell in love with basketball. Flip has NBA pedigree, a love and loyalty to the university, and is charismatic enough to spin situations how he wants to in order to sell the university to recruits.

I question how long he would want to do it, but it is my belief that if we landed 2 or (gasp) even 3 of our top recruits that would instantly elevate the program to a standard so that when Flip does retire we would get a higher level replacement for him. If Tubby retired following the season and Flip didn't get the job I'm just not sure we could expect even a top level up and comer to come here.
 

Why are people talking about Flip Saunders as if he is a God? Using his record as CBA coach to back it up. Flip Saunders has been fired THREE times. Shaka Smart is the same coach as Tubby he wants to use defense to create offense and from the past 3 years you can see it doesn't work. Please don't choose these coaches and if you're going to might as well keep Tubby.
 

Johnnyboy18 said:
Why are people talking about Flip Saunders as if he is a God? Using his record as CBA coach to back it up. Flip Saunders has been fired THREE times. Shaka Smart is the same coach as Tubby he wants to use defense to create offense and from the past 3 years you can see it doesn't work. Please don't choose these coaches and if you're going to might as well keep Tubby.
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Dohkay Johnnyboy, Shaka would have this team in an infinitely better place this season.
 







lakesgopher said:
Then don't say it as if it is fact
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It's a message board where individuals give opinions, I am wholly confident that the average replacement level coach would have this team in the top 4 in the B1G. IMO Shaka is better than a an a average replacement level coach.
 



goldengophers said:
It's a message board where individuals give opinions, I am wholly confident that the average replacement level coach would have this team in the top 4 in the B1G. IMO Shaka is better than a an a average replacement level coach.
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I'm confident Shaka wouldn't
Make THIS team significantly better. We have no pg and we don't have consistent shooting.
 

Johnnyboy18 --

Am I to guess that the 18 in your moniker suggests that you are only 18 years old?

And I'm not trying to insult you by bringing up your young age. I am trying to say that its your excuse for not yet having learned that out in the real world of big time sports, getting fired doesn't always mean you suck at your job.

Clark Shaughnessy coached the LA Rams for 2 years, getting them to the playoffs. The team was pretty good with him at the helm. He was a coaching genius, after only 2 years as a head coach in the NFL, he got fired. It was his only coaching gig. He has since been nominated for the NFL Hall of Fame on 3 separate occasions. He simply did not get along with his boss.


That's just an example off the top of my head.
 

If Shaka Smart was the True Reincarnation, every pro team would already be after him.
 


#1nHkyCfbBsbDncSolarDebat said:
Johnnyboy18 --

Am I to guess that the 18 in your moniker suggests that you are only 18 years old?

And I'm not trying to insult you by bringing up your young age. I am trying to say that its your excuse for not yet having learned that out in the real world of big time sports, getting fired doesn't always mean you suck at your job.

Clark Shaughnessy coached the LA Rams for 2 years, getting them to the playoffs. The team was pretty good with him at the helm. He was a coaching genius, after only 2 years as a head coach in the NFL, he got fired. It was his only coaching gig. He has since been nominated for the NFL Hall of Fame on 3 separate occasions. He simply did not get along with his boss.


That's just an example off the top of my head.
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When you get fired three times it means you suck at your job.
 

goldengophers said:
Great analysis Don, the NBA consistently pulls coaches from mid major programs.
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I did not make reference to mid-major. My reference was that a large majority here on GopherHole think Shaka Smart is the True Reincarnation, and I just happen to not agree. Who is the True Incarnation? Damned if I know.
 

Johnnyboy18 said:
When you get fired three times it means you suck at your job.
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You must not pay attention to the NBA, getting hired 3 times means far more. George Karl has been fired 3 times, Adelman 4 times; both are top 5 NBA coaches. If you coach in the NBA you'll get fired, and if considered good you'll get hired again and again.
 

Barnburner --

Hey why don't you either supply PROOF, or let it go until you do?!


I've supplied a link to the mshsl website that backs up my recollection. I've admitted that maybe, somehow, theres the possibility that both I, my friend who was at the game with me, and the mshsl website are ALL wrong. But until you supply some proof to back you up, just let it go. You are acting like a little immature prick.


And I don't care one iota if you believe that I've got a 20 something girlfriend or not. Just like God or aliens or a 9/11 conspiracy or any other thing out there that some people believe in and others don't, don't "need" you or anyone to believe that they exist for it to be true that they do, or that they don't.

Everyone knows I'm MinnesotaPride, so when I take her to a Gopher game, I'll introduce her to whatever GHs are there. Until then, go ahead and keep being a class act and calling me a liar.
 

goldengophers said:
You must not pay attention to the NBA, getting hired 3 times means far more. George Karl has been fired 3 times, Adelman 4 times; both are top 5 NBA coaches. If you coach in the NBA you'll get fired, and if considered good you'll get hired again and again.
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No they have not.
 


Johnny, johnny, johnny. so young and naïve. lol Don't get too down when us old farts have fun poking fun of your youthful naivity, because we've all been there before to some degree or another. Maybe none of us were AS DUMB as you, but....


j/k
 




#1nHkyCfbBsbDncSolarDebat said:
Johnny, johnny, johnny. so young and naïve. lol Don't get too down when us old farts have fun poking fun of your youthful naivity, because we've all been there before to some degree or another. Maybe none of us were AS DUMB as you, but....


j/k
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Your moniker on here is twice as long as your post which is saying a lot. If you get fired three times in seven years your not a good coach. If three NBA GM's agree you can't defend him and if he was such a good coach he would have a NBA job already.
 

Johnnyboy18 said:
Your moniker on here is twice as long as your post which is saying a lot. If you get fired three times in seven years your not a good coach. If three NBA GM's agree you can't defend him and if he was such a good coach he would have a NBA job already.
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With the buyout he makes more sitting out through this year, your opinion on the matter is indefensible and shows a lack of education on the matter.
 

goldengophers said:
You must not pay attention to the NBA, getting hired 3 times means far more. George Karl has been fired 3 times, Adelman 4 times; both are top 5 NBA coaches. If you coach in the NBA you'll get fired, and if considered good you'll get hired again and again.
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Very true. Often times professional coaches are fired just to satisfy the fan base. MLB probably tops the list. Pro coaches often have very little say in the make-up of the roster. In college sports the coach is the GM as well as on field/court manager, and is responsible for acquiring the players.

In pro sports many times a star player(s) will have input into aquiring players. See Kevin Garnett.

Didn't the Twins have a pitcher who set the major league record by starting his career 0-24? Doesn't mean he was the worst pitcher. He had to be somewhat good to get 24(or more starts).
 

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