Five Guys On A Shortlist: If the U Decides Change Is Needed, Aim High & Don't Be Cheap With That Big Ten Cash

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I'm probably in the camp of thinking Mark Coyle is capable and will make a strong hire this time around. A home run would be strike gold with a guy similar to Kevin Young at BYU. Put aside AJ Dybantsa and look at the roster Young has built in short order, a mix of international and a ton of size. Could Sean Sweeney of the Mavs work? That would be a gamble but maybe. Otherwise, find a version of Brad Underwood who spent 3 years at Stephen F. Austin and just one at Oklahoma State before Illinois. I recall thinking it was an odd match at the time, but worked out great. This could mean guys like Darian DeVries, maybe Ben McCollum, though not crazy about the lack of size on his current Drake roster. I also like Kevin Kruger who I think is gonna eventually move up.
 


USAF said:
Do you think acting like a prick on a message board makes you cool or something? What a sad existence.
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Ah yes answering a question = stalking a poster and attacking him with nonsense over irrelevant topics on the wrong boards. You got me...your logic, as per usual, is impeccable.

Keep up the great work!
 





Spaulding!No! said:
Why is the mn aau connection no longer a prerequisite?
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I never understood this "prerequisite." Musselman went to Nassau in the Bahamas to get Mychal Thompson and Osborn Lockhart. He also picked up the best in Minnesota in Mark Oberding and Kevin Michale (though Michale played for Dutcher). All I want is the best players we can purchase. I couldn't care less where they are from.
 

formerlybis said:
I thought of an interesting candidate this morning - Chris Collins. It’s pretty lateral for him, but getting out of the academic restrictions at Northwestern might be appealing.
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It used to be unofficially forbidden to poach within the B1G, but that seems silly these days. It's certainly happened in other conferences. Tubby went Georgia to Kentucky. Cal Kentucky to Arkansas etc.
 

formerlybis said:
I thought of an interesting candidate this morning - Chris Collins. It’s pretty lateral for him, but getting out of the academic restrictions at Northwestern might be appealing.
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Not a completely outrageous idea, but Collins is a Chicago guy and has painstakingly built the program into his image for a run of unprecedented success at that school. I think it would be VERY hard to pry him away, and it wouldn’t be for a lateral move (which he might view as a step down, given recent history).
 



studentgopher94 said:
From everything I've heard from direct sources, it's absolutely a good thing he got kicked off and not a coincidence he didn't do much elsewhere...
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I'm not going to defend Reggie Lynch's conduct or condemn his suspension but he was a significant difference maker on the court. He's still playing professionally by the way. This past year he played briefly in Mexico and then with a polish team (Wroclaw) competing in a Euro league. He's done well enough in the international leagues.
 

My top 4 in any order would be Shaka Smart, Darian Devries, TJ Otzelberger, Greg McDermott. See if any of them want to move to Big 10 and reel them in! Think MN would be wise to offer any of them a raise to come here as if they don't hit a homerun....YIKES!
 

UMN needs a head coach with a solid track record of winning success. Wisconsin went down to their D3 programs to get Bennett and Ryan. Drake went to D2 to find their coach. Minnesota has to stop dinking around with the "Tim Brewster" type hires and commit themselves to a proven commodity.
 




Few things. People who keep bringing up BYU, that really has nothing to do with the coach himself. Their billionaire booster told them to hire his best friend and he'd pay for everything. That just doesn't apply here.

For the Medved/Saunders/Smith group, ask yourself would say Cal/TCU/FSU whatever mid table P5 team hire this guy? The answer for these guys is hell no. Quit the MN thing, it means literally nothing. 40 years ago sure it did, today it means zip. Those guys should not even be close to considered.

As far as other successful coaches at similar ish level spots, remember sometimes it's about a fresh start for security. A good example, Enfield going from USC to SMU and Muss from Ark to USC. Those guys were successful but bought themselves a fresh start and new contract. I think McDermott, Brownell, maybe even Tommy Lloyd might be thinking they are in a hot enough seat they want to get out early.
 

leib0039 said:
Few things. People who keep bringing up BYU, that really has nothing to do with the coach himself. Their billionaire booster told them to hire his best friend and he'd pay for everything. That just doesn't apply here.

For the Medved/Saunders/Smith group, ask yourself would say Cal/TCU/FSU whatever mid table P5 team hire this guy? The answer for these guys is hell no. Quit the MN thing, it means literally nothing. 40 years ago sure it did, today it means zip. Those guys should not even be close to considered.

As far as other successful coaches at similar ish level spots, remember sometimes it's about a fresh start for security. A good example, Enfield going from USC to SMU and Muss from Ark to USC. Those guys were successful but bought themselves a fresh start and new contract. I think McDermott, Brownell, maybe even Tommy Lloyd might be thinking they are in a hot enough seat they want to get out early.
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I agree with most of your posts. BYU you are wrong (and I wasn't aware people keep bringing up BYU). If you haven't seen what Kelvin Sampson recently said regarding BYU's roster and how they are coached, please do find that article. The guy didn't get hired on some whim. And no matter how he's constructed his roster, he did it successfully and if it could be done so easily many would be doing it. My point is the Gophers can turn things quickly with a smart hire.

Enfield and Muss are good examples yes. McDermott on anything close to a hot seat? If anything, I'd say he might entertain a move as Kalkbrenner is in his final year. But not on his performance.
 

WindyCityGopher said:
Not a completely outrageous idea, but Collins is a Chicago guy and has painstakingly built the program into his image for a run of unprecedented success at that school. I think it would be VERY hard to pry him away, and it wouldn’t be for a lateral move (which he might view as a step down, given recent history).
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His dad is at nearly every game and doesn’t get around very well anymore, bad hips and knees. I doubt CC is looking to move anywhere. They are spending to get some pretty good players.
 

leib0039 said:
Few things. People who keep bringing up BYU, that really has nothing to do with the coach himself. Their billionaire booster told them to hire his best friend and he'd pay for everything. That just doesn't apply here.

For the Medved/Saunders/Smith group, ask yourself would say Cal/TCU/FSU whatever mid table P5 team hire this guy? The answer for these guys is hell no. Quit the MN thing, it means literally nothing. 40 years ago sure it did, today it means zip. Those guys should not even be close to considered.

As far as other successful coaches at similar ish level spots, remember sometimes it's about a fresh start for security. A good example, Enfield going from USC to SMU and Muss from Ark to USC. Those guys were successful but bought themselves a fresh start and new contract. I think McDermott, Brownell, maybe even Tommy Lloyd might be thinking they are in a hot enough seat they want to get out early.
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I doubt Tommy Lloyd's seat is even up to room temperature at this point.
 

mplarson7 said:
I doubt Tommy Lloyd's seat is even up to room temperature at this point.
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Yah he's probably not a great example but started 6-5 and some of these blue bloods get pretty temperamental was my point. I'm not saying he's leaving or we would get him, just a general example.
 

leib0039 said:
Few things. People who keep bringing up BYU, that really has nothing to do with the coach himself. Their billionaire booster told them to hire his best friend and he'd pay for everything. That just doesn't apply here.

For the Medved/Saunders/Smith group, ask yourself would say Cal/TCU/FSU whatever mid table P5 team hire this guy? The answer for these guys is hell no. Quit the MN thing, it means literally nothing. 40 years ago sure it did, today it means zip. Those guys should not even be close to considered.

As far as other successful coaches at similar ish level spots, remember sometimes it's about a fresh start for security. A good example, Enfield going from USC to SMU and Muss from Ark to USC. Those guys were successful but bought themselves a fresh start and new contract. I think McDermott, Brownell, maybe even Tommy Lloyd might be thinking they are in a hot enough seat they want to get out early.
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Go big.
 

leib0039 said:
Yah he's probably not a great example but started 6-5 and some of these blue bloods get pretty temperamental was my point. I'm not saying he's leaving or we would get him, just a general example.
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Another example would be Porter Moser at Oklahoma. They are off to a great start, but if they don't find success in the tournament, will he be looking for a way out? He's got Midwest ties, FWIW.

Honestly, this experiment has been so absolutely brutal, I think literally anybody is upgrade.
 



Gophers7633 said:
Another example would be Porter Moser at Oklahoma. They are off to a great start, but if they don't find success in the tournament, will he be looking for a way out? He's got Midwest ties, FWIW.

Honestly, this experiment has been so absolutely brutal, I think literally anybody is upgrade.
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Porter Moser has been a giant disappointment at Oklahoma.

Hard pass even if that was an option
 

USAF said:
Dawn Staley.
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I dont know if this is sarcasm or not, but there are a lot of programs that should take a chance on her for a mens program. There is no reason for the Gophers to do it because the outcomes are she's awful and we fire her or she's great and never ever stays here long term.
 

leib0039 said:
I dont know if this is sarcasm or not, but there are a lot of programs that should take a chance on her for a mens program. There is no reason for the Gophers to do it because the outcomes are she's awful and we fire her or she's great and never ever stays here long term.
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Not sarcasm

And " she'd never stay here" is a stupid argument.

We should be so lucky
 

Zeppelin Gopher said:
Porter Moser has been a giant disappointment at Oklahoma.

Hard pass even if that was an option
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I don't think the fit there has been exactly ideal. He's been first 4 out 2 out of the last 3 years. I'm not saying he'd be my #1 choice, but we could certainly do a lot worse. If he's looking for a landing spot ala shaka, I'd be open to it.
 



FinnGopher said:
I never understood this "prerequisite." Musselman went to Nassau in the Bahamas to get Mychal Thompson and Osborn Lockhart. He also picked up the best in Minnesota in Mark Oberding and Kevin Michale (though Michale played for Dutcher). All I want is the best players we can purchase. I couldn't care less where they are from.
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The coach might identify the players...but he's not the one who purchases them.

That's what guys here don't seem to understand.
 

TwistingMyMelon said:
I'm not going to defend Reggie Lynch's conduct or condemn his suspension but he was a significant difference maker on the court. He's still playing professionally by the way. This past year he played briefly in Mexico and then with a polish team (Wroclaw) competing in a Euro league. He's done well enough in the international leagues.
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Yeah. He was a very good player. Funny how these guys only have trouble when they're on Minnesota's best teams.
 

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