Five Guys On A Shortlist: If the U Decides Change Is Needed, Aim High & Don't Be Cheap With That Big Ten Cash

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MUgopher32 said:
What bothers me is your outright incompetence.

No, saying the Gophers cannot afford high end coaches is not my opinion it is a fact. They cant afford or have the name to draw them. It takes a real moron(and here you are) to try and argue otherwise but the FACTS are there. They factually landed on Ben Johnson an assistant from a program in their worst stretch in decades because that is all they could get.

There is not a single person in college basketball that would say the gophers have the resources to poach coaches like TJO and Sampson. Its an embarrassment to the fan base to have ignorant bozos like you continuing to act like it is some possibility.

What's next you gonna say Duke being a better basketball team than the Gophers is simply opinion as well.

All time stupidity.
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formerlybis said:
I see this a lot and am just asking a question here - is this actually true? Yes, the B10 has more resources, but also spends well over half the pie on football. Big East? Smaller pie, but can spend virtually all of it on hoops.

This is not true for B12 or ACC
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First, many of those programs do still play football either in the FBS (UConn) or FCS (Villanova etc.). Also, even if they spend a lower % on football, their pie is way, way smaller than what the B1G schools will be spending.
 

You know who I would call in the Big East? Shaka Smart. It's hard to get numbers on his contract, but if they are in the 2-3 million range, which I've seen some suggest, the Gophers can offer more.

No matter how much success Marquette has, those coaches always leave for bigger conference jobs. It's still close to home, and expectations are extremely low here, unlike at Texas. He's very similar to PJ, and Coyle would give him the keys and let him do it his way.

It's a long shot, but I think it's a more reasonable long shot than some of the other coaches mentioned if the Gophers want to get serious about basketball again.
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
You know who I would call in the Big East? Shaka Smart. It's hard to get numbers on his contract, but if they are in the 2-3 million range, which I've seen some suggest, the Gophers can offer more.

No matter how much success Marquette has, those coaches always leave for bigger conference jobs. It's still close to home, and expectations are extremely low here, unlike at Texas. He's very similar to PJ, and Coyle would give him the keys and let him do it his way.

It's a long shot, but I think it's a more reasonable long shot than some of the other coaches mentioned if the Gophers want to get serious about basketball again.
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I've been thinking this, too. He does have a potential talent drain coming after this year. However, not sure MN is a step up. Sure, MN might - might - be able to up his salary a bit, but the NIL situation isn't appreciably better here vs. Marquette (Marquette can throw everything at hoops). I'd think he'd have better options if he did entertain offers.
 

formerlybis said:
I've been thinking this, too. He does have a potential talent drain coming after this year. However, not sure MN is a step up. Sure, MN might - might - be able to up his salary a bit, but the NIL situation isn't appreciably better here vs. Marquette (Marquette can throw everything at hoops). I'd think he'd have better options if he did entertain offers.
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Revenue sharing can tip that in favor of the Gophers in the future. Pretty much any job in the B1G and SEC could be considered a better job than anywhere else.
 


GopherWeatherGuy said:
You know who I would call in the Big East? Shaka Smart. It's hard to get numbers on his contract, but if they are in the 2-3 million range, which I've seen some suggest, the Gophers can offer more.

No matter how much success Marquette has, those coaches always leave for bigger conference jobs. It's still close to home, and expectations are extremely low here, unlike at Texas. He's very similar to PJ, and Coyle would give him the keys and let him do it his way.

It's a long shot, but I think it's a more reasonable long shot than some of the other coaches mentioned if the Gophers want to get serious about basketball again.
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Minnesota can easily steal the coach from poor little Marquette. I don't think anyone here would disagree with that. :cool:
 

Maybe Medved would just be the right fit for Minnesota, but Colorado State has not had a good year and I do think there's a difference now between coaches that have benefitted and become more valuable from the transfer portal rules, and those that may be solid basketball coaches but have taken a hit and are not as effective with the new rules.

I'd put Medved, and probably Craig Smith, in the latter category. I wouldn't be upset if we hired either of them, but we likely need better if we really want to compete towards the top of the Big10.
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
No matter how much success Marquette has, those coaches always leave for bigger conference jobs. It's still close to home, and expectations are extremely low here, unlike at Texas. He's very similar to PJ, and Coyle would give him the keys and let him do it his way.
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Yes, our administration (Coyle as the mouthpiece) might pay for a Shaka Smart. To make it look good. And yes, they would give him the keys...unlike with Tubby who they hamstrung...because they know he can't be successful without money for players.
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
Revenue sharing can tip that in favor of the Gophers in the future. Pretty much any job in the B1G and SEC could be considered a better job than anywhere else.
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Our administration will NEVER pay for full starting lineup of good basketball players. We will always be short of what the paying schools have.

Bubble team at best...with many lousy seasons. 1 very good team about every 30-40 years.
 



New Mexico is currently 11-3 and just beat Nevada. Is there a nonzero percent that Pitino would be even considered? I want other qualified candidates but I wouldn't be surprised if he was at least reconsidered. That would be a minnesota move if there ever was one
 

JZABR said:
New Mexico is currently 11-3 and just beat Nevada. Is there a nonzero percent that Pitino would be even considered? I want other qualified candidates but I wouldn't be surprised if he was at least reconsidered. That would be a minnesota move if there ever was one
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I'd rather have Pitino back over Niko.
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
I'd rather have Pitino back over Niko.
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It is a stunning indictment of the U of M administration that Pitino could get fired here and then go and turn New Mexico into a far better team than Gophers have with the coach they chose to replace him. They will never bring Pitino back. They need to go big. Bigger than Medved in my opinion.
 

I’d rather have kept Pitino now knowing that Johnson was Coyle’s idea of improvement. Only Coyle knows how that decision (his own or a Gable mandate?) went down. But it has forever tarnished his reputation and makes me doubt his ability to make the needed HR hire this time.
 




JZABR said:
New Mexico is currently 11-3 and just beat Nevada. Is there a nonzero percent that Pitino would be even considered? I want other qualified candidates but I wouldn't be surprised if he was at least reconsidered. That would be a minnesota move if there ever was one
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I am on board for Will Wade or Medved. Or the coach from UC Irvine.
I don't ever want Pitino back here either.
 

Probably not realistic but I'd love it if the Gophs could poach another West Virginia coach and get Devries. I'm sure they'd never pay the buyout and the salary it would require but it's fun to dream.
 

bmb5270 said:
Probably not realistic but I'd love it if the Gophs could poach another West Virginia coach and get Devries. I'm sure they'd never pay the buyout and the salary it would require but it's fun to dream.
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Yeah their turn around has been insane. Helps he brought his kid with him, but still.
Also Brian Hodgson from Arkansas State. He was hired in 2023. They're currently 11-3 and 2-0 in conference play and picked to finish at the top. He's also in the top echelon of coaches I'd like to come here. Can't imagine the buyout would be that much of a hit to the U's wallet considering it's the Sun Belt Conference
 

Our administration kicked out our only big man...returing Big Ten Defensive POY (with good offense too)... Reggie Lynch off of Pitino's best team. Even the away announcers were saying we looked like a Final Four contender.

Then they waited until Pitino had good returning players at every position before they fired him.
 

Another name I like is Richie McCay from Liberty. A disciple of Tony Bennett, a 421-258 career record, including 30-4 in 2019-2020, so he wins consistently.
 

EasyThere Pilgrim said:
Our administration kicked out our only big man...returing Big Ten Defensive POY (with good offense too)... Reggie Lynch off of Pitino's best team. Even the away announcers were saying we looked like a Final Four contender.

Then they waited until Pitino had good returning players at every position before they fired him.
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From everything I've heard from direct sources, it's absolutely a good thing he got kicked off and not a coincidence he didn't do much elsewhere...
 


studentgopher94 said:
Don't need anything related to Liberty, all good there thanks.
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Yeah I'm aware of the history of Liberty. But just like Will Wade, disregarding the past because we need someone who's a proven winner. But he's not high on my list.
 


EasyThere Pilgrim said:
Our administration kicked out our only big man...returing Big Ten Defensive POY (with good offense too)... Reggie Lynch off of Pitino's best team. Even the away announcers were saying we looked like a Final Four contender.

Then they waited until Pitino had good returning players at every position before they fired him.
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I don't feel throwing Reggie Lynch out there as a player that was unfairly run off is a good idea. That dude has some serious character issues.
 







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