Five Guys On A Shortlist: If the U Decides Change Is Needed, Aim High & Don't Be Cheap With That Big Ten Cash

Few things. People who keep bringing up BYU, that really has nothing to do with the coach himself. Their billionaire booster told them to hire his best friend and he'd pay for everything. That just doesn't apply here.

For the Medved/Saunders/Smith group, ask yourself would say Cal/TCU/FSU whatever mid table P5 team hire this guy? The answer for these guys is hell no. Quit the MN thing, it means literally nothing. 40 years ago sure it did, today it means zip. Those guys should not even be close to considered.

As far as other successful coaches at similar ish level spots, remember sometimes it's about a fresh start for security. A good example, Enfield going from USC to SMU and Muss from Ark to USC. Those guys were successful but bought themselves a fresh start and new contract. I think McDermott, Brownell, maybe even Tommy Lloyd might be thinking they are in a hot enough seat they want to get out early.
With Smith they already did, Medved Im a little bit surprised he hasn't had some more interest. It's not easy to get multiple at large bids in a mid major. Saunders I doubt it. You could argue Craig smith coming here would fall in your last category.Look at Otz, crushing it at Iowa State, Medved and Smith were coaching circles around him when he was at UNLV
 






I'd make Shaka say no but he's also from Milwaukee, but if the BoR lets Coyle spend $4-5 million could be interesting. Even if he says no that's probably what it's going to take to get a good coach especially if 3-4 other big ten jobs open up
He’s actually from Oregon, a town about 10 miles south of Madison. But regardless of where he’s from in Wisconsin, he ain’t coming to Minnesota.
 


Folks really think that Tauer wouldn't take the Gophers job if offered?

 
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Folks really think the Tauer wouldn't take the Gophers job if offered?

People really believe that St. Thomas has more resources than the U? They would offer him a higher salary, more resources and the Big Ten. You're absolutely silly if you honestly believe he wouldn't take that. Now the fact is I don't think we should go for him, I think there are better candidates, but if you really think the U isn't a significant step up from St. Thomas you're out of your mind.
 



People really believe that St. Thomas has more resources than the U? They would offer him a higher salary, more resources and the Big Ten. You're absolutely silly if you honestly believe he wouldn't take that. Now the fact is I don't think we should go for him, I think there are better candidates, but if you really think the U isn't a significant step up from St. Thomas you're out of your mind.
Some people here have St. Thomas blinders. I also don't think the Big East is waiting with baited breath to get St. Thomas to join the league.

Any Summit League coach would take a B1G job in about 2 seconds. But I agree there should be 15 more experienced candidates for the Gopher job.
 



Yeah, that gym looked shockingly small for a college team, especially one now competing at the D1 level.
There are a number of D1 schools with postage stamp arenas. It's an odd thing. St Thomas will have a bigger arena, if the neighborhood will allow it.
 



There are a number of D1 schools with postage stamp arenas. It's an odd thing. St Thomas will have a bigger arena, if the neighborhood will allow it.
Don’t look now but the arena is already well on its way and scheduled to open this year.
 



I really hope Coyle takes a good look at Chris Mack. 8 tournament appearances in 9 years at Xavier. 4 sweet 16's and 1 elite 8. Things went a little sideways at Louisville but still had a 63% win percentage there. The guy can flat out coach and his salary is listed at 1.1 million with a 1.5 mil buyout.
 

I really hope Coyle takes a good look at Chris Mack. 8 tournament appearances in 9 years at Xavier. 4 sweet 16's and 1 elite 8. Things went a little sideways at Louisville but still had a 63% win percentage there. The guy can flat out coach and his salary is listed at 1.1 million with a 1.5 mil buyout.
I'm a big Mack booster.
 



I dont know if this is sarcasm or not, but there are a lot of programs that should take a chance on her for a mens program. There is no reason for the Gophers to do it because the outcomes are she's awful and we fire her or she's great and never ever stays here long term.
That’s true with every coach, isn’t it?
 


People really believe that St. Thomas has more resources than the U? They would offer him a higher salary, more resources and the Big Ten. You're absolutely silly if you honestly believe he wouldn't take that. Now the fact is I don't think we should go for him, I think there are better candidates, but if you really think the U isn't a significant step up from St. Thomas you're out of your mind.
I'll start this by saying that I think Tauer would take the job at the U.

However, you're not understanding the argument that people are making that Tauer (specifically him) might not leave St. Thomas for the U. Everyone understands that the U would pay him a lot more. Everyone understands that it's a massive step up. Everyone understands that there are more resources. Those are not and never were the reasons why some people are not sure he would even take the position.

He is a bit different from the average coach. His family has long and deep ties to Catholic education in Saint Paul. Within the St. Paul Catholic youth sporting community, pretty much everyone was either coached by his father, attended camps with his dad, or played against him. Johnny then came up through that, went to CDH and then St. Thomas where he was inducted into their Hall of Fame. He is an absolute legend within this small circle. Now, he is leading them into D1 basketball and they are relatively successful. He's not just a coach at St. Thomas, he is deeply embedded into the program, history, and culture of the school and the community the school represents. It's not your typical coach/program relationship. It goes back his entire life.

I understand being skeptical of an anonymous internet poster, but he has repeatedly turned down significantly more lucrative opportunities already. He has had a number of opportunities to become an assistant coach dating back many years, where the career trajectory would have been the higher ranks of basketball. This has led to many people to think that he is not as motivated by money and prestige as most people, myself included.

Do I think he'd turn down the opportunity here? Probably not. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity (theoretically). However, the argument that we'd pay more or that that the job is clearly more prestigious is entirely missing the point. The question is not about which job is better, it's clearly the U by a mile. The question is about who Johnny Tauer is as a person. For the overwhelming vast majority of people, including me, it's a no brainer. For him, I don't know if it's as simple.
 

I really hope Coyle takes a good look at Chris Mack. 8 tournament appearances in 9 years at Xavier. 4 sweet 16's and 1 elite 8. Things went a little sideways at Louisville but still had a 63% win percentage there. The guy can flat out coach and his salary is listed at 1.1 million with a 1.5 mil buyout.
100%. If he'd take the job, the search should be quick. He's a great coach.
 

There are a number of D1 schools with postage stamp arenas. It's an odd thing. St Thomas will have a bigger arena, if the neighborhood will allow it.
It’s literally already under construction. Neighborhood isn’t stopping it.


If Tauer is the target, shut down the program. He’s a really good coach for st Thomas but he has literally never left st Thomas.
 



I like the steam around Tauer. Coud this be a Bo Ryan hire for the Gophers? Coaching is coaching and Tauer has won and continues to win at all levels. People in the coaching circles know and understand the quality that Tauer is. There is a reason that CBJ doesn't want St. Thomas on the schedule. I have always been one that likes to have a head coach from the area and Coyle seems to follow, not always to a successful outcome, that plan.

With all this said I don't think Tauer would take the job. His history at St. Thomas, a new facility that will open next year, the timing just doesn't seem to fit.

If Coyle moves on from CBJ, which seems likely, this next hire needs to be a Fleck, Motsko, Plitzuweit homerun hire.
 


With all this said I don't think Tauer would take the job. His history at St. Thomas, a new facility that will open next year, the timing just doesn't seem to fit.
That's where I'm at on Tauer. A year or two from now (if the U has interest & an opening), I think he'd consider making the move. I just don't see him making the move right now in the offseason right before the program he built from the ground floor (to D1) is finally eligible for the NCAA tourney.

Barring taking significant hits to free agency in the spring/summer, he already has a roster built to win a league title, albeit in a 1-bid league, where it's win 3 straight in March or you go home. Yes, I understand money and prestige talk, but the timing just doesn't feel right.
 
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I believe i read Tauer is making ~$100K.

He's not turning down the Gopher job if offered


However, he isn't getting the offer.
 




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