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It looks to me that Minnesota is competitive in NIL money beginning now. I would like to thank USAF for sharing his NIL money reference.
 



sigh I just want to make the NCAA tournament occasionally and maybe have a sweet 16 plus run every 4-5 years. With all the hoop talent we have in the Twin Cities I don't think that this is unreasonable
 

formerlybis said:
B10 has more money than every other conference. Higher end talent will be attracted to B10,
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I've wanted it to work out for Ben Johnson. My main thing is, whatever the NIL situation, he's been in as good a position as lots of other coaches. Every school loses a player or three via the portal (ie. JT Toppin bailing on New Mexico). So far, he hasn't been able to pull in high quality replacements, and seems to sort of scrape together a roster. It's going to be different now?
 

If we kept the players that Ben has recruited or enticed with NIL money we would be having a very different conversation about Ben. The fact that you have to replace quality players year over year means from time to time, replacements may not always be at the same level. Odds are that some years, they will be of lesser quality. Odds also suggest that previous performance does not indicate future performance, which means odds are that better players will again come to Minnesota. Patience is a virtue in gaming and it is a virtue in decision making. It is no more or less attractive for players to come to Minnesota than anywhere else. My proof of that is the constant growth in housing in the Twin Cities occupied by young professionals. I drive around in winter seeing license plates from every corner of the country. Minnesota has a good reputation and people know it. We are not a flyover state. We are not the Siberia of the USA. Ben Johnson is a good and decent coach and all he needs is to do what he has in the past to right the boat--be himself and recruit as always. The odds favor a bounce upward.
 

ShushPush said:
If we kept the players that Ben has recruited or enticed with NIL money we would be having a very different conversation about Ben. The fact that you have to replace quality players year over year means from time to time, replacements may not always be at the same level. Odds are that some years, they will be of lesser quality. Odds also suggest that previous performance does not indicate future performance, which means odds are that better players will again come to Minnesota. Patience is a virtue in gaming and it is a virtue in decision making. It is no more or less attractive for players to come to Minnesota than anywhere else. My proof of that is the constant growth in housing in the Twin Cities occupied by young professionals. I drive around in winter seeing license plates from every corner of the country. Minnesota has a good reputation and people know it. We are not a flyover state. We are not the Siberia of the USA. Ben Johnson is a good and decent coach and all he needs is to do what he has in the past to right the boat--be himself and recruit as always. The odds favor a bounce upward.
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We will bounce back upward, when Ben is fired and replaced with a competent coach.
 




USAF said:
I think you're confused.

NCAA Revenue Sharing & NIL Estimates 2025

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Even if it were true it wouldn’t suddenly make us top half in the conference because all conference schools would also benefit. That would still make it difficult to make the tournament unless we start scheduling a much more difficult non conference and we know that won’t happen.
 





Minnesota is going to have to pay a lot of money to attract a coach here to take this program to the top half of the Big Ten. The school also needs a new arena. My guess is most top recruits look at Williams Arena and think it's a dump with a weird floor.
 

leib0039 said:
I think you are very off base here based on how I understand everything. 1. They have a cap on $$ you can spend of like $20m. Literally every single P5 school has that. Thus any team we will battle for kids will be even. 2. If the title 9 ruling sticks, the cap plus the requirement to split it means that money will be much much less meaningful than it sounds like it does

Again, things are subject to change at any time, but to me as it sits today, this school paying thing essentially does nothing for P4/5 schools. It's such a minor amount when we are talking about millions of dollars per kid.
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Lot of unknown in terms of how it will all work. I do think in general, power 4 teams will have more money to work with as a lot of smaller schools are unlikely to spend the entire allowed amount whereas the power schools are much more likely to.

But how the money is divided up and the looming title 9 aspect (which is a complete joke) could definitely limit just how much money various sports have to work with.
 

formerlybis said:
B10 has more money than every other conference. Higher end talent will be attracted to B10,
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The settlement is $21 million per school (iirc). Every school is capped at that amount. And it's subject to title 9 so basketball won't be getting a huge chunk. It's not a game changer it's an excuse to delay the inevitable.
 




gopher watcher said:
Minnesota is going to have to pay a lot of money to attract a coach here to take this program to the top half of the Big Ten. The school also needs a new arena. My guess is most top recruits look at Williams Arena and think it's a dump with a weird floor.
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Dumb
 

MonikerSchmoniker45 said:
I do. Will you be happy at .500?
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I will be happier than I am now, but not as happy as I would be with a coach who's record is .700 or higher.

Staying the course will not get us in that direction, but a new coach gives us a better chance to be pointed in that direction.
 


howeda7 said:
The settlement is $21 million per school (iirc).
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In the Big Ten. It is a percentage of department income with a cap of 20.5 million ( I have also seen the figure of 22 million as a cap). Ours is the only conference that will have income anywhere close to justifying that 20.5 max figure. So it will be a big advantage over non-Big Ten schools.
howeda7 said:
Every school is capped at that amount. And it's subject to title 9 so basketball won't be getting a huge chunk. It's not a game changer it's an excuse to delay the inevitable.
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Title IX is insane (interesting that there are 2 sexes for this regulation). There has been a memo from the department of education that states revenue sharing must be equal between male and female athletes regardless of revenue (totally stupid). However that memo is not binding and could be changed by the Trump administration.

www.phelps.com

School Revenue Sharing for NIL Rights Raises Title IX Questions

The Department of Education’s Jan. 16 memo argues that revenue sharing and school-provided name, image and likeness (NIL) funds must be allocated equally across female and male sports. The guidance…
www.phelps.com www.phelps.com
 


howeda7 said:
The settlement is $21 million per school (iirc). Every school is capped at that amount. And it's subject to title 9 so basketball won't be getting a huge chunk. It's not a game changer it's an excuse to delay the inevitable.
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It means non-power 4 schools will have less in general as they won't be able to spend up to the 21m.
 



bga1 said:
In the Big Ten. It is a percentage of department income with a cap of 20.5 million ( I have also seen the figure of 22 million as a cap). Ours is the only conference that will have income anywhere close to justifying that 20.5 max figure. So it will be a big advantage over non-Big Ten schools.

Title IX is insane (interesting that there are 2 sexes for this regulation). There has been a memo from the department of education that states revenue sharing must be equal between male and female athletes regardless of revenue (totally stupid). However that memo is not binding and could be changed by the Trump administration.

www.phelps.com

School Revenue Sharing for NIL Rights Raises Title IX Questions

The Department of Education’s Jan. 16 memo argues that revenue sharing and school-provided name, image and likeness (NIL) funds must be allocated equally across female and male sports. The guidance…
www.phelps.com www.phelps.com
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Possibly. Either way it will probably be delayed for a year. It's not a reason to give Ben a stay of execution.
 


howeda7 said:
Are we worried about out-recruiting non power-4 schools?
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The talent at those schools will funnel to the likes of MN. Still last in conference but beat everyone outside of p4.

Who said anything about worrying? Just presenting data.
 

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