All Things COVID-19 College Football Impact

There will be limited fans in the stands, this fall. I can say that with almost certainty. Just don't know what plan will get approved.
 



From yesterday's Town Hall with Joan Gable:

Did they address the low risk for the mast majority of the university community? Higher risk individuals can maintain social distancing, have barriers installed, PPE. Immunocompromised walk among us everyday and can still participate in society with common sense precautions, or choose to shelter for the near future. Is the U approaching this from a ”zero risk“ perspective or a mitigated risk perspective? That makes all the difference. I fear the legal atmosphere and political atmosphere in this country is so charged the administration may crack under the pressure.
 


Is there really a home field advantage if there are no fans? Maybe slightly, but could probably make a case either way.
 



I am hopeful that games will be played this fall - but I still do not expect fans in the stands - at least not in MN.

the MN State Fair Board is meeting on Friday (May 22nd) to make a final decision, and most people are predicting that the Fair will be canceled. The dates for the State Fair are from Aug 29 to Sept 7.

if you can't have crowds at the State Fair, you're sure as bleep not going to have a crowd at a Gopher Football game on Sept 3rd.

Granted - each state can have its own policies. But then you get into the revenue issue. If OSU has fans but MN doesn't, then that just widens the revenue disparity.
 

Speaking of Golden Rodents - I open up my e-mail at work and get a press release from a company promoting its Rodent Control services.

A small sample:

As desperate rodents seek food and shelter beyond their pre-pandemic sources, experts caution that waiting to address a rodent infestation until it's inside the walls is too late. Exclusion - the industry term for creating physical barriers against rodents to prevent them from entering a home or building - is safer, greener and more effective than attempting to remove them once inside. Rodents have been known to gnaw through window screens, wood, fiberglass, plastic, drywall and even concrete in pursuit of food and shelter. They also carry diseases and contaminate every surface they touch. They are not a threat to be taken lightly.

Offered for amusement purposes only.
 

Speaking of Golden Rodents - I open up my e-mail at work and get a press release from a company promoting its Rodent Control services.

A small sample:

As desperate rodents seek food and shelter beyond their pre-pandemic sources, experts caution that waiting to address a rodent infestation until it's inside the walls is too late. Exclusion - the industry term for creating physical barriers against rodents to prevent them from entering a home or building - is safer, greener and more effective than attempting to remove them once inside. Rodents have been known to gnaw through window screens, wood, fiberglass, plastic, drywall and even concrete in pursuit of food and shelter. They also carry diseases and contaminate every surface they touch. They are not a threat to be taken lightly.

Offered for amusement purposes only.

Tularemia and leptospirosis among others - the risk averse should never leave their (gas fumigated) houses, ever. If they don’t get you the brain eating amoebas and Lyme disease will.
 



Did they address the low risk for the mast majority of the university community? Higher risk individuals can maintain social distancing, have barriers installed, PPE. Immunocompromised walk among us everyday and can still participate in society with common sense precautions, or choose to shelter for the near future. Is the U approaching this from a ”zero risk“ perspective or a mitigated risk perspective? That makes all the difference. I fear the legal atmosphere and political atmosphere in this country is so charged the administration may crack under the pressure.
Not when survival is at stake. My guess is that, behind closed doors and off the record, those in charge are keenly aware of what's at stake if the U can only offer a virtual "college experience". The system collapses.

Kids pay top dollar for the college experience, not the quality of lectures or course content. And that experience is largely social and in-person. If that product can't be offered, then the customers will vanish.


With the exception of large, crammed gatherings (like big in-person lectures, full capacity sports and concerts, etc.), they will offer every bit of the true college experience as they can muster, this fall. Live and in person.
 

Tbh they just need to open up 100%, there’s many studies out there now that show this social distancing isn’t needed, masks are not needed! Media fear mongering and people who fail to look at studies and come to a reasonable conclusion will keep this going!
How many? Can you provide links to these studies that aren't from the media (by which I mean links to the actual study paper)? I have not seen anything like this. The closest thing I have seen is this:

"Models show that if 80 percent of people wear masks that are 60 percent effective, easily achievable with cloth, we can get to an effective R0 of less than one. That’s enough to halt the spread of the disease."
Now, for transparency that quote is an interpretation of the data by someone at The Atlantic, which is a media outlet (gasp! /s). They do, however, site their source which is a study by Cornell University. That paper can be found, in its entirety, here: https://arxiv.org/abs/2003.07353

For ease, here is a direct link to the pdf: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2003.07353.pdf, the data the article mentions can be found on page ten of the "Supplementary Materials" section of the paper, which is page 27 of the pdf.

If you are going to make outrageous claims, you better site your source. Otherwise you're no better than big bad media you tell us to ignore.
 

I am hopeful that games will be played this fall - but I still do not expect fans in the stands - at least not in MN.

the MN State Fair Board is meeting on Friday (May 22nd) to make a final decision, and most people are predicting that the Fair will be canceled. The dates for the State Fair are from Aug 29 to Sept 7.

if you can't have crowds at the State Fair, you're sure as bleep not going to have a crowd at a Gopher Football game on Sept 3rd.

Granted - each state can have its own policies. But then you get into the revenue issue. If OSU has fans but MN doesn't, then that just widens the revenue disparity.

That is why your scenario will not happen. At a minimum, all season ticket holders will be at the first game. PS, I don't see any connection between the state fair and Gopher football games. Totally different.
 

PS, I don't see any connection between the state fair and Gopher football games. Totally different.
They are both crowded places with large amounts of people. Some of them drunk too.
 



They are both crowded places with large amounts of people. Some of them drunk too.

OK, but I'm still taking bets that there will be lots of fans at the first Gopher football game, even with a pinhead governor running the place.
 

It's very likely that COVID-19 will be seen as almost zero threat to the vast majority of the population by September. Stadiums should be packed, especially TCF

The governor of this state may be too PC to allow full occupancy for the first game.
 

The governor of this state may be too PC to allow full occupancy for the first game.

Let's hope the numbers are so compelling enough to permit. It is likely that the disease will go dormant in the summer. If this were 50 years ago, the young people would already have developed herd immunity.
 


OK, but I'm still taking bets that there will be lots of fans at the first Gopher football game, even with a pinhead governor running the place.

I really, really, really hope you're right...
 

OK, but I'm still taking bets that there will be lots of fans at the first Gopher football game, even with a pinhead governor running the place.

Your so called pinhead governor has done a great job. Now YOUR pinhead president not so much. And I’ll take your bet.
 

Tbh they just need to open up 100%, there’s many studies out there now that show this social distancing isn’t needed, masks are not needed! Media fear mongering and people who fail to look at studies and come to a reasonable conclusion will keep this going!
? Did you just wake up?
 

So what is the problem? Are we busing in residents from nursing homes? No

The at risk fans just need to stay away. The death rates, as we all know by now, amongst healthy people us incredibly low.

The point of these restrictions was never to keep us from ever getting the virus...it is inevitable.

Only Kim Jong walz and his horrible models are still about peaks, ventilators, and ICU capacity....that train never made it to the station..

No one can credibly explain what the point of these restrictions are anymore
 

We'll probably be able to attend games with full stadiums as close as Madison, Iowa City, and Lincoln.

But by August, revision 8 of the MN COVID model will be predicting a peak in October/November. Walz will hold another conference stating 'the worst is yet to come'. No fans will be allowed in the stadium, bars/restaurants still won't be allowed to have indoor seating, and game day viewing parties will be held at Target, Walmart, and the World's Largest Candy Store.
 


Maybe pat Kesler can do another walz ballwashing reality check like the one last night about how the sky is falling in texas and Florida..

He was on with that leftist 2nd banana toady gardsy yesterday...sickening bias by both
 

Well, as of 5 PM Tuesday, May 26 - you would need to wear a mask at any Gopher sporting event in Minneapolis based on the emergency order from Mayor Frey. It applies to all of Minneapolis - and the campus is in Minneapolis as are most of the venues.
 

Well, as of 5 PM Tuesday, May 26 - you would need to wear a mask at any Gopher sporting event in Minneapolis based on the emergency order from Mayor Frey. It applies to all of Minneapolis - and the campus is in Minneapolis as are most of the venues.
And who is going to enforce this? Is Mayor Frey going to walk up and down each aisle to ensure we are all complying with his order? You can bet I’ll be taking it off first drive when Bateman scores.
 

Got an idea

Buy the cheep masks at a buck each.

Go down to Lows or Home Depot and buy the #9, 3M air filter for air conditioners. This filter can filter out bacteria and viruses.

Cut the filter into 4 & a half by 4 and a half strips.

Place the virus filter in between the 2 cheep $1 masks and then hot glue the virus filter between the 2 $1 face masks.

I bought the air filter and the standard masks but have not put them together yet. It be as hard to breath through as an M95 mask. I have used an M95 mask and it is hot and you want to take it off after an hour. My mask idea would probably feel the same way but should protect you from the virus.

Methinks Gus has been enjoying too much of his state's fine Shine at this point:drink:
 

Look at the numbers. They confirm the experience. Doctors are figuring out this disease. My nurse friend says the simple act of laying intubated patients on their stomachs is producing remarkable results from the most severely ill.

The medical term for this is proning and was discovered as a treatment option by a physician in The Bronx.
 

We'll probably be able to attend games with full stadiums as close as Madison, Iowa City, and Lincoln.

But by August, revision 8 of the MN COVID model will be predicting a peak in October/November. Walz will hold another conference stating 'the worst is yet to come'. No fans will be allowed in the stadium, bars/restaurants still won't be allowed to have indoor seating, and game day viewing parties will be held at Target, Walmart, and the World's Largest Candy Store.

But then I think we would lose Fleck. He may want to make something out of nothing, but he is not going to want to try to do that with one hand tied behind his back. Do we want an elite program or not? Time for every major player in the state to make that decision.
 





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