All Things 2024 Minnesota Vikings Off-Season Thread

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Lots of talk around the Penix draft position regarding his medicals and injuries leading up to the draft, thought I would share this tidbit.

I know someone pretty well that is tight with 2 or 3 of the medical staff for the Knights/Raiders (including the team doctor if I'm not mistaken) and they shared a little bit around their support of the Raiders leading up to the draft. I would guess if you went around the league, this would very GREATLY from team to team but I thought this was interesting.

They basically went through all of the medical information and made detailed evaluations for most of the players they were looking at and gave the players simple grades of Low Risk, Med Risk, or High Risk. That sounded overly simplistic to me but it is what it is, maybe it works for them.

The Raiders apparently then proceeded to pick players in the draft, every one of them but ONE had a "High Risk" medical grade on them. What in the actual f'k?

I'm sure some teams listen a whole lot more to their medical staff than others, I've heard stories of guys being taken off their draft board completely because of the medicals. I can't remember the player (OG Trey Smith?) but one former GM I was listening to recently said their team took that player completely off their board and the Chiefs drafted him in the mid-later rounds and he's been like a 2-3 year starter, not one single issue. I think the player had a heart issue.

Strange shit, and I'm sure these things very a TON across the board from team to team across the league.
 

The Lions and Packers should both overpay their good but not elite QB. It's great fun. Believe me.

 






Always love schedule release day!! It's like Christmas morning, seeing what's under the tree!

Leaks I've seen so far regarding the Vikings schedule:

Week 7 - Home against Detroit

Week 8 - At LA Rams

Week 12 - At Chicago

Week 13 - Home against Arizona

Week 15 - Home against Chicago (MNF)
 
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I posted this in the funny thread but in case you haven't seen it. Chargers do it again, hilarious.

 




Ogee Ogilthorpe said:
Well, shit. Unavailable! What did it say?
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You have to click on "Watch on YouTube". It's limited for some reason.

Here you go with explanation of each team. Pretty funny if you ever played The Sims.

www.sportingnews.com

Chargers schedule release video: Breaking down references by week, from Harrison Butker to Taylor Swift | Sporting News

The Sims-themed video also included a shot at Jets QB Aaron Rodgers, even though Los Angeles doesn't play New York in 2024.
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The Titans did another video where they have fans on the street trying to name the opponents based on their helmets - and they brought back the "Red Stallions" girl from last year to host it.

comments included
"Love Joe Burrow" for the Bears logo
"Peaked in 1970" for the Jets
"Home of the Cheese" for the Packers
"The Cowboys" for the Colts logo
"They shouldn't have got rid of Cousins" for the Vikings logo
 


a note from The Athletic:

Don't expect Vikings TE T.J. Hockenson, who tore his ACL and MCL in Week 16, to be ready for Week 1. The injury could land him on the PUP and keep him below 100 percent all year. He recently said there's no timeline for his return.
 



Meatsauce says window nation is having a semi annual sale. Immm it seems like they always have a sale.
 

the JJMac hype train is rolling. from The Athletic:

Offensive coordinator Wes Phillips complimented rookie quarterback J.J. McCarthy’s absorption of the system. McCarthy, Phillips said, arrives at the TCO Performance Center each morning having studied the previous day’s installation and more. He also highlighted McCarthy’s arm talent.

“You see the juice that got when he lets go of the football,” Phillips said.

McCarthy lasered passes throughout Tuesday’s session. He drilled receiver Lucky Jackson on a dig route over the middle. He hummed a corner route to Jalen Nailor near the sideline. Once, he held his eyes downfield, couldn’t identify an open receiver, rolled to his right like he was in a scramble drill and hurled a ball downfield toward receiver Trent Sherfield.

Pitching coaches often use the term: “The ball explodes out of his hand.” The same cliche applies to McCarthy, whose ball spirals so tightly through the air you almost expect flames to flow from behind. He generates his velocity with efficient mechanics and a fluid motion. If anything, the Vikings will have to monitor the torque on his arm.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
the JJMac hype train is rolling. from The Athletic:

Offensive coordinator Wes Phillips complimented rookie quarterback J.J. McCarthy’s absorption of the system. McCarthy, Phillips said, arrives at the TCO Performance Center each morning having studied the previous day’s installation and more. He also highlighted McCarthy’s arm talent.

“You see the juice that got when he lets go of the football,” Phillips said.

McCarthy lasered passes throughout Tuesday’s session. He drilled receiver Lucky Jackson on a dig route over the middle. He hummed a corner route to Jalen Nailor near the sideline. Once, he held his eyes downfield, couldn’t identify an open receiver, rolled to his right like he was in a scramble drill and hurled a ball downfield toward receiver Trent Sherfield.

Pitching coaches often use the term: “The ball explodes out of his hand.” The same cliche applies to McCarthy, whose ball spirals so tightly through the air you almost expect flames to flow from behind. He generates his velocity with efficient mechanics and a fluid motion. If anything, the Vikings will have to monitor the torque on his arm.
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Spiral chat. I thought it was gone forever
 

short ornery norwegian said:
the JJMac hype train is rolling. from The Athletic:

Offensive coordinator Wes Phillips complimented rookie quarterback J.J. McCarthy’s absorption of the system. McCarthy, Phillips said, arrives at the TCO Performance Center each morning having studied the previous day’s installation and more. He also highlighted McCarthy’s arm talent.

“You see the juice that got when he lets go of the football,” Phillips said.

McCarthy lasered passes throughout Tuesday’s session. He drilled receiver Lucky Jackson on a dig route over the middle. He hummed a corner route to Jalen Nailor near the sideline. Once, he held his eyes downfield, couldn’t identify an open receiver, rolled to his right like he was in a scramble drill and hurled a ball downfield toward receiver Trent Sherfield.

Pitching coaches often use the term: “The ball explodes out of his hand.” The same cliche applies to McCarthy, whose ball spirals so tightly through the air you almost expect flames to flow from behind. He generates his velocity with efficient mechanics and a fluid motion. If anything, the Vikings will have to monitor the torque on his arm.
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Got a spiral rating of 9.87. Elite.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
the JJMac hype train is rolling. from The Athletic:

Offensive coordinator Wes Phillips complimented rookie quarterback J.J. McCarthy’s absorption of the system. McCarthy, Phillips said, arrives at the TCO Performance Center each morning having studied the previous day’s installation and more. He also highlighted McCarthy’s arm talent.

“You see the juice that got when he lets go of the football,” Phillips said.

McCarthy lasered passes throughout Tuesday’s session. He drilled receiver Lucky Jackson on a dig route over the middle. He hummed a corner route to Jalen Nailor near the sideline. Once, he held his eyes downfield, couldn’t identify an open receiver, rolled to his right like he was in a scramble drill and hurled a ball downfield toward receiver Trent Sherfield.

Pitching coaches often use the term: “The ball explodes out of his hand.” The same cliche applies to McCarthy, whose ball spirals so tightly through the air you almost expect flames to flow from behind. He generates his velocity with efficient mechanics and a fluid motion. If anything, the Vikings will have to monitor the torque on his arm.
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I'm surprised they didn't quietly fire Wes Philips by now.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
the JJMac hype train is rolling. from The Athletic:

Offensive coordinator Wes Phillips complimented rookie quarterback J.J. McCarthy’s absorption of the system. McCarthy, Phillips said, arrives at the TCO Performance Center each morning having studied the previous day’s installation and more. He also highlighted McCarthy’s arm talent.

“You see the juice that got when he lets go of the football,” Phillips said.

McCarthy lasered passes throughout Tuesday’s session. He drilled receiver Lucky Jackson on a dig route over the middle. He hummed a corner route to Jalen Nailor near the sideline. Once, he held his eyes downfield, couldn’t identify an open receiver, rolled to his right like he was in a scramble drill and hurled a ball downfield toward receiver Trent Sherfield.

Pitching coaches often use the term: “The ball explodes out of his hand.” The same cliche applies to McCarthy, whose ball spirals so tightly through the air you almost expect flames to flow from behind. He generates his velocity with efficient mechanics and a fluid motion. If anything, the Vikings will have to monitor the torque on his arm.
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But what is his hand size, and how many Mike Morris' tall is he? Those are the only metrics I care about.
 

For anyone that cares how it all shook out with the Vikings and their recent draft, and because some people felt the Vikings gave up TOO MUCH to get the players they did like JJ McCarthy and Dallas Turner, among others, Alec Lewis at The Athletic broke it down, I'll summarize;

The Vikings GOT:

- JJ McCarthy
- Dallas Turner
- K Will Reichard
- DT Levi Drake Rodriguez

The Vikings GAVE UP:

- 2024 2nd Rounder (Texans)
- 2024 4th Rounder (McCarthy)
- 2024 5th Rounder (McCarthy)
- 2024 5th Rounder (Turner)
- 2024 6th Rounder (Texans)

- 2025 2nd Rounder (Texans)
- 2025 3rd Rounder (Turner)
- 2025 4th Rounder (Turner)

To me, the Vikings looked at the fact that they have a ridiculous amount of cap room next year to improve the roster, plug holes with FA signings, etc and were comfortable moving those three picks in the 2025 draft. I can absolutely live with that.

At the end of the day, if they hit on McCarthy and Turner in a big way, and Reichard is the Kicker for a while to boot (pardon the pun), nobody will give two shits what they gave up.
 

draft picks are potential. they might develop into a player, or they might not.

free agents are a known commodity. if you're willing to pay the price, you can add proven players to your roster.

so if you have the cap space and the money, free agents are - IMHO - a safer bet, albeit a more expensive one.
 

Ogee Ogilthorpe said:
For anyone that cares how it all shook out with the Vikings and their recent draft, and because some people felt the Vikings gave up TOO MUCH to get the players they did like JJ McCarthy and Dallas Turner, among others, Alec Lewis at The Athletic broke it down, I'll summarize;

The Vikings GOT:

- JJ McCarthy
- Dallas Turner
- K Will Reichard
- DT Levi Drake Rodriguez

The Vikings GAVE UP:

- 2024 2nd Rounder (Texans)
- 2024 4th Rounder (McCarthy)
- 2024 5th Rounder (McCarthy)
- 2024 5th Rounder (Turner)
- 2024 6th Rounder (Texans)

- 2025 2nd Rounder (Texans)
- 2025 3rd Rounder (Turner)
- 2025 4th Rounder (Turner)

To me, the Vikings looked at the fact that they have a ridiculous amount of cap room next year to improve the roster, plug holes with FA signings, etc and were comfortable moving those three picks in the 2025 draft. I can absolutely live with that.

At the end of the day, if they hit on McCarthy and Turner in a big way, and Reichard is the Kicker for a while to boot (pardon the pun), nobody will give two shits what they gave up.
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Great post. We could also receive two (2) 3rd Round Comp picks for Cousins and Hunter to fill the gaps in the next Draft.
 



short ornery norwegian said:
draft picks are potential. they might develop into a player, or they might not.

free agents are a known commodity. if you're willing to pay the price, you can add proven players to your roster.

so if you have the cap space and the money, free agents are - IMHO - a safer bet, albeit a more expensive one.
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Teams have to hit on both to have sustained success. But you don't need 10 draft picks each year to "hit" in that area. If there are players you really like and you think will be successful in your system, you go and get them.
 

Who ever run the Pioneer Press should tell there sports department to stop making up lies. Charlie Walters claim that Minnesota were trying to trade up to draft WR Malik Nabers and that they were going to trade Justin Jefferson.

This rumor has made the rounds, and it's admittedly juicy, but the Vikings did not try last month to trade up and draft WR Malik Nabers. Great player, but Vikings have a better one in Justin Jefferson. Still working to extend Jefferson and no interest in trading him.

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gophersfan said:
Who ever run the Pioneer Press should tell there sports department to stop making up lies. Charlie Walters claim that Minnesota were trying to trade up to draft WR Malik Nabers and that they were going to trade Justin Jefferson.

This rumor has made the rounds, and it's admittedly juicy, but the Vikings did not try last month to trade up and draft WR Malik Nabers. Great player, but Vikings have a better one in Justin Jefferson. Still working to extend Jefferson and no interest in trading him.

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I would have LOVED to see the Vikings make that trade. Sure, there's an element of unknown, but let's say that the Jefferson contract will be $34M/yr, and it sounds like the Nabers deal is roughly $7.5M/year. With Nabers playing along side Addison and Hockenson; I would absolutely take that $26.5M per year, spend it on other players (most notably the Darrisaw extension) and the draft picks that came with moving Jefferson.

With Kwesi being a wall street guy and looking at VALUE, I absolutely think they could have at least explored this. Did it happen for sure? Who knows, but you're not doing your job as a GM if you don't explore all alternatives available to you to make the team better.
 




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