All Things 2024 Minnesota Vikings Off-Season Thread

[Spaulding!No!]

We need PA to tell us if qbjj will do well.

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

Per NFL Live yesterday, KOC said Darnold is definitely the number 1 going into training camp

 

[GophersInIowa]

Per NFL Live yesterday, KOC said Darnold is definitely the number 1 going into training camp

Not a surprise

 

[short ornery norwegian]

the Vikes are not going to play McCarthy until he's ready. if that means he doesn't play a single snap in '24, I'm fine with that.

Now, if it gets to mid-season or late season and they think he is ready, then I could see McCarthy getting a start or at least making some second-half appearances.

But if Darnold gets hurt early in the season, don't be surprised if Crazy Nick Mullens is the replacement. they are not going to rush McCarthy - and I agree with that 100%.

 

[GophersInIowa]

the Vikes are not going to play McCarthy until he's ready. if that means he doesn't play a single snap in '24, I'm fine with that.

Now, if it gets to mid-season or late season and they think he is ready, then I could see McCarthy getting a start or at least making some second-half appearances.

But if Darnold gets hurt early in the season, don't be surprised if Crazy Nick Mullens is the replacement. they are not going to rush McCarthy - and I agree with that 100%.

Yeah I would be surprised if McCarthy takes any meaningful snaps in the first half of the season.

 

[Ogee Ogilthorpe]

Per NFL Live yesterday, KOC said Darnold is definitely the number 1 going into training camp

Don't laugh at me damnit, but I sprinkled $5 on Darnold for AP Comeback Player of the Year, at 30-1!! And I did the same for Kyler Murray, same bet, same odds!

The last 6 winners have been QB's, and if Joe Flacco and Geno Smith can do it, why not our boy Sam?!

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

Don't laugh at me damnit, but I sprinkled $5 on Darnold for AP Comeback Player of the Year, at 30-1!! And I did the same for Kyler Murray, same bet, same odds!

The last 6 winners have been QB's, and if Joe Flacco and Geno Smith can do it, why not our boy Sam?!

Makes sense to me

Plus the bar for Sam’s Comeback is not that high - throws for 2500+Yards, 20 TDs+, he’s a mortal . Those should be attainable, unless he’s a complete bust.

 

[howeda7]

I am guessing there is not going to be much protest from NFL Teams, because I would not be surprised if every other team is doing it to some degree, The Falcons only got caught because Cousins opened up his yapper at his press conference.

Giving the Vikings a 5th Round pick for someone they really did not want (at anywhere near what the Atlanta signed him for) just does not seem logical.

Given the Draft Day development, I am not sure the Falcons really want KC either.

Then just let teams tamper and don't pretend you care. The only reason the NFL really bothers is they want the "news" cycle to be legitimate the first week of free agency instead of everything leaking out in the weeks beforehand.

 

[Ope3]

Then just let teams tamper and don't pretend you care. The only reason the NFL really bothers is they want the "news" cycle to be legitimate the first week of free agency instead of everything leaking out in the weeks beforehand.

All they could actually prove was that Cousins had contact with the Atlanta Training Staff (not Coaches or Management) because he was a blabbermouth, which to me seems like a big "so what?!?"

The Agent was already allowed speak to the Falcons for 52 hrs beyond the new league year, and discuss parameters for a contract.

Falcons forfeit pick for tampering; Eagles cleared

The Falcons lost a fifth-round pick in the 2025 draft and were fined for violating the NFL's anti-tampering policy, while the Eagles were cleared after an investigation.

www.espn.com

I think your are correct about the NFL wanting to protecting the News cycle. If something firm had leaked prior to the actual Free Agent window, then the penalty probably would have been harsher. By the time Cousins had talked to the Falcons Trainer, both the Vikes and the KC camp had moved on.

 

[Ogee Ogilthorpe]

This. While we don't know for sure, the tampering could have caused Cousins to stop negotiating with the Vikings. Or demand more knowing Atlanta would give him what he wanted if the Vikings didn't.

Michael Lombardi, on his podcast The GM Shuffle (i'd highly recommend, one of the best NFL pods out there) had a different take on this issue. Basically said this had to do with the Falcons shadow, defacto GM Rich McKay (who the Falcons claim isn't very involved but Arthur Blank does nothing without his say-so) is heavily connected at the NFL league offices and hence the result of almost nothing in the way of punishment.

He said it's like being pregnant, you either are or you aren't; it's either tampering or it isn't. And for the league to come out with some wishy-washy explanation and slap on the wrist was absolutely ridiculous.

Regardless of whether or not the Vikings were ever going to be compensated, it is most definitely a ridiculous punishment determination for something that was more egregious than some things that have gotten significantly harsher penalties (like "Deflate-gate")

 

[Ope3]

This. While we don't know for sure, the tampering could have caused Cousins to stop negotiating with the Vikings. Or demand more knowing Atlanta would give him what he wanted if the Vikings didn't.

Personally I don't think there was any negotiating with the Vikings management. They made their best offer in terms of years & dollars, weren't going to budge and were probably relieved KC turned them down.

 

[Spaulding!No!]

Personally I don't think there was any negotiating with the Vikings management. They made their best offer in terms of years & dollars, weren't going to budge and were probably relieved KC turned them down.

Fellow posters here in GH said that Kirk C. Wouldn’t get 45 mill/season but I think that is why he did sign for a similar sum.

 

[BleedGopher]

We need PA to tell us if qbjj will do well.

We do?

Skol Vikes!!

 

[Ogee Ogilthorpe]

Personally I don't think there was any negotiating with the Vikings management. They made their best offer in terms of years & dollars, weren't going to budge and were probably relieved KC turned them down.

You have to love the irony here, which has gotten very very little attention, that one of the MAJOR reasons Cousins went to ATL instead of staying with the Vikings is that the Vikings were very up front with Cousins that they were going to draft a young QB early; and those f'ng morons in the front office in Atlanta signed Kirk and did the same thing. Some reports from the Vikings have leaked out that this was a big deal to Kirk, the Vikings QB draft plans.

Atlanta might be one of the biggest shitshows in the league

 

[Spaulding!No!]

We do?

Skol Vikes!!

PA is engineer for the purple train

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

For those with a subscription to The Athletic, fun, informative, short blurbs regarding minicamp

From J.J. McCarthy to Lewis Cine: Notes on all 90 Vikings players after minicamp

What better time to check the status of all 90 players on the Minnesota Vikings' roster? Here's how they looked this spring.

www.nytimes.com

This sounds exciting -

QB Sam Darnold:Looked sharp. Might have thrown only one interception in mandatory minicamp, and that might have been a byproduct of a poor route by his receiver

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

Mentioned on PTI today and sounds like there’s some steam behind it (Surprised it took Jerry this long) -

Some NFL owners discussing potential QB salary cap in wake of escalating market, per report

The idea, however, doesn't appear to have legs

www.cbssports.com

Here’s the first few paragraphs -

With every new quarterback contract in the NFL, more eyebrows are raised at the inevitability of record-setting dollar amounts at the position, with even inconsistent and relatively unproven signal-callers commanding historic hauls. The league is well aware of the situation, according to NFL Media, with some team owners privately discussing the possibility of a separate cap on quarterback salaries.

The reasoning, Tom Pelissero explained on "The Rich Eisen Show," is that "at some point you want quarterback numbers to not go over a certain percent of your salary cap." For reference, the Cincinnati Bengals' Joe Burrow earns an an NFL-leading average of $55 million per year on the contract extension he signed in 2023, which means his deal alone is projected to account for an average of nearly 25% of the Bengals' entire salary cap per year, leaving the remaining 75% for the rest of the roster.

Adopting "an NBA model" might be one way to better regulate those percentages, as Pelissero noted. The NBA currently has "max" and "supermax" restrictions for free-agent and long-term contracts, limiting the number of players teams can sign to a certain dollar amount, while capping the percentage of the salary cap for which maximum deals account. The idea "really hasn't gained traction" among NFL owners, however, "in part because so many teams have paid their quarterback," contributing to the position's escalating market.

 

[coolhandgopher]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Blake Cashman (<a href="https://twitter.com/blockayyy?ref_src=twsrc^tfw">@blockayyy</a>) on coming home to play for the Minnesota Vikings. <a href="https://t.co/UcHEnZiBPw">pic.twitter.com/UcHEnZiBPw</a></p>&mdash; Jim Rome (@jimrome) <a href="">July 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[coolhandgopher]

Apologies for the prior jumbled post, I have to go back to Gopher Hole school to brush up on how to embed posts from Twitter.

 

[Ogee Ogilthorpe]

Apologies for the prior jumbled post, I have to go back to Gopher Hole school to brush up on how to embed posts from Twitter.

Hey, some of us don't even venture to try

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

PA is engineer for the purple train

️

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Blake Cashman (<a href="https://twitter.com/blockayyy?ref_src=twsrc^tfw">@blockayyy</a>) on coming home to play for the Minnesota Vikings. <a href="https://t.co/UcHEnZiBPw">pic.twitter.com/UcHEnZiBPw</a></p>&mdash; Jim Rome (@jimrome) <a href="">July 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wow, Jim Rome has gotten old

 

[GophersInIowa]

Apologies for the prior jumbled post, I have to go back to Gopher Hole school to brush up on how to embed posts from Twitter.

When you post the link, just change out the ‘x’ for ‘twitter’ so it says ‘twitter.com….’

 

[howeda7]

 

[BleedGopher]

This is just horrible. What awful news to wake up to.

 

[short ornery norwegian]

setting aside the human tragedy - from what I read, Jackson impressed the coaches during rookie mini-camp and OTA's. it sounded as if he had a chance to earn playing time as a rookie.

I would not be surprised if the Vikings went out and tried to find another CB to add to the depth at that position.

 

[BleedGopher]

Looks like he and 2 friends were killed by a drunk driver:

 

[howeda7]

Looks like he and 2 friends were killed by a drunk driver:

It seems like the drunk drivers always survive the crash.

 

[short ornery norwegian]

It seems like the drunk drivers always survive the crash.

I have a theory on that. a sober driver tenses up when they see a crash coming, while a drunk is loose - instead of tensing up, they just slosh around the car and seem to absorb the impact better. there is a related theory that the alcohol in the system slows down the reflexes and may actually serve to help cushion the body.

I have no idea if there is any scientific validity to this. just based on knowing some people who got in accidents driving drunk and generally walked away with minimal injuries.

 

[From the Parkinglot]

Inexcusable.