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Jordan Favre is more accurateFitting end for Jordan Elvis Grbac Love.
Jordan Favre is more accurateFitting end for Jordan Elvis Grbac Love.
That was a textbook Favresque toss at the end, across his body for a game ending pick.Jordan Favre is more accurate
The Vikes are not winning with Kirk Cousins.
Even if Cousins is 0% responsible for wins and losses - the Vikings are not winning with Kirk Cousins.
Vikings records in the Cousins era:
2018 = 8-7-1 -- missed playoffs
2019 = 10-6 -- lost 2nd round of playoffs
2020 = 7-9 -- missed playoffs
2021 = 8-9 -- missed playoffs
2022 = 13-4 -- lost 1st round of playoffs
2023 = 7-10 -- missed playoffs
The Vikes are not winning with Kirk Cousins.
But - according to some - the Vikes must keep Kirk Cousins. No other option should even be discussed. The Vikes must keep Kirk Cousins so that they................can go 1-2 in the playoffs over a 6-year period.
Let's keep doing something that has not worked. Because it might work in the future. Ya, sure.
There’s a reason why I’m laying on my couch right now and not coaching.
I don’t think the FO and coaches are dumb. If they bring Cousins back, they’ll have to have some kind of plan. It may not work of course though.
I would like us to draw up more pass plays like the Packers where there isn’t a defender within 10 yards of the receiver. KOC definitely has to step up his play calling.
1st year mistake. Never, ever, ever, throw that ball! Really? Downfield, crossfield, across your body. Wow. Not like they didnt have plenty of time and 2 timeouts.Fitting end for Jordan Elvis Grbac Love.
This is where I'm at as well.
I don't want any of my rationale or counterpoints to mean I think they absolutely need to bring back Cousins. Hell yes, I'd like them to go out and get a QB and move on. Absolutely. I'm just saying that it's kind of ridiculous to lose your mind if they don't make a move to draft a QB in Round 1. If the player they love, and checks ALL of their boxes, happens to be there or is available by moving up, go for it.
I don't know enough about the QBs in this years class and their strengths and how they fit with what KOC wants to do. I have no clue. We'll see, it'll be an interesting offseason.
Interesting stat they showed yesterday. Of the last 8 remaining teams, 7 were qb'd by 1st round draft picks. Only Purdy was not.
Lions received: | QB Jared Goff, 2022 first-round pick, 2023 first-round pick, 2021 third-round pick |
Rams received: | QB Matthew Stafford |
Sometimes it's just being in the right system with the right players and coaches. Goff and Mayfield examples 1A and 1B. Obviously an inexact science, just found the stat interesting.Two of those first round QBs — Mayfield and Goff — are no longer with the team that drafted them, because they were considered failed picks.
Mayfield has bounced around quite a bit. He's on his fourth team. Judging by the terms of the Goff-Stafford trade, the Rams were quite relieved to have Goff taken off of their hands.
The trade
Lions received: QB Jared Goff, 2022 first-round pick, 2023 first-round pick, 2021 third-round pick Rams received: QB Matthew Stafford
Again, I think it's wise to gather as much data as possible. The Big Picture. Look at the history of first round QBs over the last 20 years. It ain't pretty.
As a first year starter- I’ll take the cumulative resultsThat was a textbook Favresque toss at the end, across his body for a game ending pick.
And the Rams likely don’t win their SB without Stafford.Sometimes it's just being in the right system with the right players and coaches. Goff and Mayfield examples 1A and 1B. Obviously an inexact science, just found the stat interesting.
I'm not going to do the research, but I wonder what the success rate is for other positions drafted in the 1st round.
Don’t tell Spaulding PA’s not an expert - his world may crumble.Yes. This is the correct answer. This is an honest, straightforward post that could apply to every single poster here.
We're not experts. Neither are Mackey 'n Judd. Neither are any of the KFAN comedy/sports personalities.
People have been hired, and paid well, by the billionaires who own the team to make decisions. Those people may succeed or they may fail, but in the long run they know more than we do, and therefore the odds of them making the right decisions, while far from 100%, are higher than if any one of us was put in charge.
I don't disagree on that and think Stafford is a better QB, but this year Goff has had more success. Stafford a 1st round pick too.And the Rams likely don’t win their SB without Stafford.
Sometimes it's just being in the right system with the right players and coaches. Goff and Mayfield examples 1A and 1B. Obviously an inexact science, just found the stat interesting.
I'm not going to do the research, but I wonder what the success rate is for other positions drafted in the 1st round.
I would have rather had you throwing darts at the defensive draft the board the past 10 years and picking what the dart landed on than the geniuses in this front office.Yes. This is the correct answer. This is an honest, straightforward post that could apply to every single poster here.
We're not experts. Neither are Mackey 'n Judd. Neither are any of the KFAN comedy/sports personalities.
People have been hired, and paid well, by the billionaires who own the team to make decisions. Those people may succeed or they may fail, but in the long run they know more than we do, and therefore the odds of them making the right decisions, while far from 100%, are higher than if any one of us was put in charge.
I don't disagree on that and think Stafford is a better QB, but this year Goff has had more success. Stafford a 1st round pick too.
Yes, I would too.As a first year starter- I’ll take the cumulative results
I would have rather had you throwing darts at the defensive draft the board the past 10 years and picking what the dart landed on than the geniuses in this front office.
We'd have come out way ahead.
Fine, then we don't make a pick.Are you sure? You've never seen me throw darts.
Which pub would be in, and how many beers will I have consumed?
So we should trade JJ to the for the Top Pick?I found this interesting.
It would be a bold move for sure and their jobs would be dependent on it working.So we should trade JJ to the for the Top Pick?
I will say those stats are dependent on QB style and team system. Lamar Jackson and Jalen Hurts between them have zero 4,000 yard seasons and one 30+ TD season, and most people consider them “franchise” QBs.I found this interesting.
Their jobs are dependent on it anyway, so really what's the difference? If they play it safe and keep Cousins and keep stringing along 8-10 win seasons, they can maybe eek another couple years out before they get fired. Swinging for the fences may get them fired sooner, but if it works it would likely set them up for years. Get a good QB and he stays healthy, and you'll be relevant as a team for the next 10-15 years.It would be a bold move for sure and their jobs would be dependent on it working.
I guess my point is that would be a hard mistake to recover from. They’d be putting their jobs on the line with that one move.Their jobs are dependent on it anyway, so really what's the difference? If they play it safe and keep Cousins and keep stringing along 8-10 win seasons, they can maybe eek another couple years out before they get fired. Swinging for the fences may get them fired sooner, but if it works it would likely set them up for years. Get a good QB and he stays healthy, and you'll be relevant as a team for the next 10-15 years.
I guess my point is that would be a hard mistake to recover from. They’d be putting their jobs on the line with that one move.