All Things 2024 Minnesota Vikings Off-Season Thread

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Vikings need to sign next year's Baker Mayfield as their bridge QB. Drew Lock.
 



Ogee Ogilthorpe said:
For now, let's just stick with the Bears. The Giants just paid Daniel Jones that much. Why would Fields take less? The market has been set with players like that. You're either committing to Fields and paying him $40M+ per year, or you're trading him or letting him walk.

I guess it depends on your definition of "winning". Can a player like Fields, with a GREAT roster around him, win 8-10 games? He probably can. Is he going to win multiple playoff games? Not a snowball's chance in hell.

He's not an NFL franchise QB. Never will be. They'd be better of seeing what they have in Bagent than to keep trotting out Fields.
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If Fields isn't offered the $40million/yr by anyone then he'll have to take less or just sit. He hasn't won a playoff game yet like Daniel Jones (fools gold in hindsight) nor even made the post season, so I don't see how he could command that level of salary.

My definition of winning in terms of the Bears/Fields in this thread specifically was brought about by whether or not their short term prospects (2-3 yrs) are better than the Vikings. Therefore if he could win 8-10 games and one playoff game, that alone is more success than I see the Vikes having in the same time frame, whether they resign Cousins or not.

I'm not arguing Chicago is destined to be a Super Bowl contender. With what they have currently and how they are set up in the Draft, I like their chances better than Minnesota though.

No doubt, they could certainly waste the opportunity. Totally possible.
 


Ogee Ogilthorpe said:
Nonsense! Love seeing the NFC Least go down like that!

Love seeing both Mayfield and Todd Bowles have a great night, stomping the Eagles. That was fantastic.
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While I normally revel in the Cowboys getting blown out, because it was at the hands of the Packers, it was a rather pyrrhic victory.

Tonight was a snooze fest.
 

howeda7 said:
You're changing your future plans based on the Packers winning a play-off game? I agree on moving on from Cousins, but there's no need to trade JJ. Just because it worked with Diggs, doesn't mean it will again.
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No Johnny, it’s that, their youth and the amount of draft capital - I was responding to SON’s post about how much of it, they have. Johnny, twenty dollar bills are not for rolling up and hovering up white powder off of a mirror🥴

Blow it up and start over and the only two I’d have in my no trade pile is Darrisaw and Addison
 
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Gopher_In_NYC said:
No Johnny, it’s that, their youth and the amount of draft capital - I was responding to SON’s post about how much of it, they have. Johnny, twenty dollar bills are not for rolling up and hovering up white powdery off of a mirror🥴

Blow it up and start over and the only two I’d have on my no trade pile is Darrisaw and Addison
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Plus the NYE debacle at the Zygi Dome also showed the talent gap.
 




Heard on the WWL that Jon Gruden is bring seriously considered to be the OC for Da Saints - they apparently fired their OC this morning.
 
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Reportedly -

Raiders apparently have expressed interest in Harbaugh.

Belicheck met yesterday with Atlanta yesterday.

SD has expressed interest in Belicheck in addition to their meeting yesterday with Harbaugh.
 

Gopher_In_NYC said:
Heard on the WWL that Jon Gruden unis bring seriously considered to be the OC for Da Saints - they apparently fired their OC this morning.
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Gruden is a great play-caller, that would be quite a get for the Saints, although I don't know that his time with D. Carr was all that spectacular. Gruden was routinely frustrated with Carr's refusal to push the ball down the field and constantly check-down.

Hoping that Gruden gets a gig he wants at some point. He pretty much got hosed on that Redskins investigation situation, regardless of what he may have put in personal communication with that moron in the Washington front office.
 




Ope3 said:
While I normally revel in the Cowboys getting blown out, because it was at the hands of the Packers, it was a rather pyrrhic victory.

Tonight was a snooze fest.
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Philly allowed 157 yards YAC last night - tied NFL postseason record.

Gotta think that Philly, knowing a little about that city and with a ton of coaching talent available, that they move on from Sirianni, especially as they’ve shown they could move on from Reid and Pederson.

Belicheck or Carroll?
 

Ogee Ogilthorpe said:
Gruden is a great play-caller, that would be quite a get for the Saints, although I don't know that his time with D. Carr was all that spectacular. Gruden was routinely frustrated with Carr's refusal to push the ball down the field and constantly check-down.

Hoping that Gruden gets a gig he wants at some point. He pretty much got hosed on that Redskins investigation situation, regardless of what he may have put in personal communication with that moron in the Washington front office.
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As someone who’s had second chances, I certainly believe that he should get one. N.O. Might be the right spot for it not for it to occur as well.
 

Gopher_In_NYC said:
Philly allowed 157 yards YAC last night - tied NFL postseason record.

Gotta think that Philly, knowing a little about that city and with a ton of coaching talent available, that they move on from Sirianni, especially as they’ve shown they could move on from Reid and Pederson.

Belicheck or Carroll?
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With Tomlin apparently staying for another year, this is where I would put the Top 4 candidates:

LA Chargers - Pete Carroll / Back to LA.
Dallas - Jim Harbaugh / Just needs to get Dak to play well in January.
Atlanta - Bill Belichick / NFC South still gettable.
Philadelphia - Mike Vrabel / Upgrade and right temprament.
 

I don't have a strong opinion on Sirianni but coaches don't often get fired the year after they make the Super Bowl. John Fox did I guess. That worked out.
 

Ope3 said:
With Tomlin apparently staying for another year, this is where I would put the Top 4 candidates:

LA Chargers - Pete Carroll / Back to LA.
Dallas - Jim Harbaugh / Just needs to get Dak to play well in January.
Atlanta - Bill Belichick / NFC South still gettable.
Philadelphia - Mike Vrabel / Upgrade and right temprament.
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I'd be surprised if Belichick would go to a team like ATL with no established QB. He's "been there, done that" lately. That's why I'd make the LAC as favorites to land him if they're interested.
 

Slim Tubby said:
I'd be surprised if Belichick would go to a team like ATL with no established QB. He's "been there, done that" lately. That's why I'd make the LAC as favorites to land him if they're interested.
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I agree with you on B squared RE: ATL - from what I’ve heard, SD is interested in him. Philly and Dallas have the most plug and play teams for him, Jerry could do all his talking and their drafts have been productive.
 

If I'm betting Ogee's money, I've got:

LAC - Belichick
SEA - Vrabel
WAS - Carroll
DAL - Harbaugh
PHI - Keeps Siriani
 


Slim Tubby said:
I'd be surprised if Belichick would go to a team like ATL with no established QB. He's "been there, done that" lately. That's why I'd make the LAC as favorites to land him if they're interested.
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I have a hard time picturing the Hoodie on the West Coast.
 

GophersInIowa said:
It seems the WRs really want Cousins back.

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That not what he is talking about on his istragram account. If you go to his account he said this.

Used to dream bout this I can’t believe I’m here. He was talking about himself getting into the NFL. He wasn't talk about Cousins at all.
 

Slim Tubby said:
If I'm betting Ogee's money, I've got:

LAC - Belichick
SEA - Vrabel
WAS - Carroll
DAL - Harbaugh
PHI - Keeps Siriani
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IF the Dallas job opens up, that throws a wrench in things. But if that doesn't open, I still like

ATL - Belichick
LAC - Harbaugh
SEA - Vrabel (but have no strong thoughts on that)
WASH - Ben Johnson

The book on Harbaugh is, he ain't flying to LAC to visit if there's not MAJOR mutual interest. I think Michael Lombardi had it at 90%, but who knows?

I think ownership will make a huge difference with Belichick; he'll need a hands-off owner for the most part.

Shit, Vrabel could be the best of the bunch. I'd take him in a heartbeat if I had an opening.
 
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howeda7 said:
I don't have a strong opinion on Sirianni but coaches don't often get fired the year after they make the Super Bowl. John Fox did I guess. That worked out.
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The same Eagles franchise fired their head coach 3 years after WINNING a Super Bowl, not just being in it.
 

For all the talk during the season of "how in the world are the Vikings going to be able to keep Brian Flores from leaving?!?!"... there has not been one single team request an interview. And multiple teams have interviews in place for WELL over the minimum 2 minority candidates required.

Flores seems to have a fairly toxic personality, it's going to scare some people off. Sure the lawsuit isn't helping; from the very beginning I thought he got absolutely HORRIBLE legal advice on that deal. Absolutely nothing to gain and so much to lose. The Vikings defense being shit down the stretch didn't help matters. Blitzing, for the most part, is a sign of weakness and Flores does it more than anyone in the league by far.

As far as openings, I would be leaning towards a few that have done it before; Raheem Morris, Steve Wilkes, Dan Quinn. Not sure I'm sold on these young OC play-callers that haven't done it for very long; Lions Ben Johnson, Texans Bobby Slowik. If Slowik stays another year and oversees CJ Stroud lighting it up another season, he can have his pick of jobs next offseason. Probably same with Ben Johnson but Johnson sounds like he'll get a job somewhere for sure.
 

gophersfan said:
That not what he is talking about on his istragram account. If you go to his account he said this.

Used to dream bout this I can’t believe I’m here. He was talking about himself getting into the NFL. He wasn't talk about Cousins at all.
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I’m not on instagram so my bad.
 



Ope3 said:
The same Eagles franchise fired their head coach 3 years after WINNING a Super Bowl, not just being in it.
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Some talking head brought up a good point yesterday. Jerry is so thrifty, he let Garrett coach his lame duck year, rather than pay the buyout.

Jeff Lurie is much less patient(cheap?). Cowboy Fans while obnoxious, aren’t psychotic like Fly 🦅 Fly are.

I think Jerry’s age may push him to make the move and especially if The 🦅 do, I’ll be surprised if he sits on his 🙌.

This is seemingly the most coaching talent and exciting Coaching Carousel 🎠 Ivan ever remember.
 

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