All Things 2024 Minnesota Twins In-Season Thread

Reminds me of a young Buxton. I remember seeing him play for Cedar Rapids and he hit to right center. It wasn't hit hard and didn't hit the gap but Buxton just glided into 2nd. It was so effortless. I was like "did he just run straight to 2nd and completely miss 1st base?"
Reds are at Citi in the second to last series at the beginning of September; tixs will be beyond discounted and barring bad weather, I wanna go see him in person, if possible.
 

Hamm’s may be The Beer Refreshing, but I prefer Grain Belt, The Friendly Beer.
 



Rod Carew tripled in his third-straight game on this date in 1977, setting a Twins record later tied by Dan Gladden, Delmon Young, Eddie Rosario, and Alex Kirilloff.
 


Twins released 2019 first round pick Keoni Cavaco yesterday. Tough to give up on a kid at 23 years old, but he never advanced about High A ball, so the writing was more than a little bit on the wall for this one.
 

Twins released 2019 first round pick Keoni Cavaco yesterday. Tough to give up on a kid at 23 years old, but he never advanced about High A ball, so the writing was more than a little bit on the wall for this one.
They had him playing 1B and he was only playing about half the time. Still a little odd to give up being he was a former 1st rounder but maybe there were other things going on as well. Not sure.
 

Camilo Pascual pitched his Twins record eighth-straight complete game on this date in 1964.

He went 7-1 with a shutout over the streak, which began on May 10.

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They had him playing 1B and he was only playing about half the time. Still a little odd to give up being he was a former 1st rounder but maybe there were other things going on as well. Not sure.
There's a handful of guys picked after him in the 2019 first round that are minimum quality big leaguers already (I know you can do that with every single draft ever), but when you miss this badly, it stings more.
 


They had him playing 1B and he was only playing about half the time. Still a little odd to give up being he was a former 1st rounder but maybe there were other things going on as well. Not sure.
I think the clock would have run out on him this season. Unless there were changes in the CBA or due to no 2020 Minor League season, after 6 if players are not on the MLB roster they become Minor League Free Agents.

If they were not going to put him on the 40 man, might as well cut bait and let him try to latch on elsewhere.
 

There's a handful of guys picked after him in the 2019 first round that are minimum quality big leaguers already (I know you can do that with every single draft ever), but when you miss this badly, it stings more.
Overall that was a pretty solid 1st round group. Everyone but Cavaco and a pitcher for Cleveland has made it to at least AAA. And the only reason the Cleveland guy hasn't is because he hasn't pitched since 2022 due to injuries. Overall I think the Twins have drafted well but that was a pretty bad miss.
 



Twins had a bad run for a few years
2019: Cavaco
2020: Aaron Sabato
2021: Chase Petty (traded)
2021: Noah Miller (traded)

but if you go back and look at the 80's and 90's, there are a lot of "who the bleep is that" picks
(in 2004 had 5 1st round picks with two supplemental picks - and check out that group...)

1980: Jeff Reed, C / 81: Mike Sodders, 3B / 82: Bryan Oelkers, LHP / 83: Tim Belcher, P (did not sign) / 84: Jay Bell SS / 85: Jeff Bumgarner RHP / 86: Derek Parks RHP / 87: Willie Banks RHP / 88: Johnny Ard, RHP / 89: Chuck Knoblauch SS / 90: Todd Ritchie RHP / 90: Midre Cummings, OF / 91: Dave McCarty 1B / 91: Scott Stahoviak 3B / 92: Dan Serafini LHP / 93: Torii Hunter OF / 93: Jason Varitek C (did not sign) / 93: Marc Barcelo RHP / 93: Kelcy Mucker OF / 94: Todd Walker 2B / 94: Travis Miller LHP / 95: Mark Redman LHP / 96: Travis Lee 1B (did not sign) / 97: Michael Cuddyer SS / 98: Ryan Mills LHP / 99: BJ Garbe OF / 2000: Adam Johnson RHP / 00: Aaron Heilman RHP (did not sign) / 01: Joe Mauer C / 02: Denard Span OF / 03: Matt Moses 3B / 04: Trevor Plouffe SS / 04: Glen Perkins LHP / 04: Steven Waldrop RHP / 04: Matthew Fox RHP / 04: Jay Rainville RHP /05: Matt Garza RHP / 05: Henry Sanchez 1B / 06: Chris Parmalee OF / 07: Ben Revere OF / 08: Aaron Hicks OF / 08: Carlos Gutierrez RHP / 08: Shooter Hunt RHP / 09: Kyle Gibson RHP / 09: Matthew Bashore LHP / 2010: Alex Wimmers RHP / 11: Levi Michael SS / 11: Travis Harrison 3B / 11: Hudson Boyd RHP / 12: Byron Buxton OF / 12: Jose Berrios RHP / 12: Luke Bard RHP / 13: Kohl Stewart RHP / 14: Nick Gordon SS / 15: Tyler Jay LHP / 16: Alex Kirilloff OF / 17: Royce Lewis SS / 17: Brent Rooker OF / 18: Trevor Larnach OF / 19: Keoni Cavaco SS / 2020: Aaron Sabato 1B / 21: Chase Petty RHP / 21: Noah Miller SS / 22: Brooks Lee SS / 23: Walker Jenkins OF / 23: Charlee Soto RHP
 


Twins had a bad run for a few years
2019: Cavaco
2020: Aaron Sabato
2021: Chase Petty (traded)
2021: Noah Miller (traded)

but if you go back and look at the 80's and 90's, there are a lot of "who the bleep is that" picks
(in 2004 had 5 1st round picks with two supplemental picks - and check out that group...)

1980: Jeff Reed, C / 81: Mike Sodders, 3B / 82: Bryan Oelkers, LHP / 83: Tim Belcher, P (did not sign) / 84: Jay Bell SS / 85: Jeff Bumgarner RHP / 86: Derek Parks RHP / 87: Willie Banks RHP / 88: Johnny Ard, RHP / 89: Chuck Knoblauch SS / 90: Todd Ritchie RHP / 90: Midre Cummings, OF / 91: Dave McCarty 1B / 91: Scott Stahoviak 3B / 92: Dan Serafini LHP / 93: Torii Hunter OF / 93: Jason Varitek C (did not sign) / 93: Marc Barcelo RHP / 93: Kelcy Mucker OF / 94: Todd Walker 2B / 94: Travis Miller LHP / 95: Mark Redman LHP / 96: Travis Lee 1B (did not sign) / 97: Michael Cuddyer SS / 98: Ryan Mills LHP / 99: BJ Garbe OF / 2000: Adam Johnson RHP / 00: Aaron Heilman RHP (did not sign) / 01: Joe Mauer C / 02: Denard Span OF / 03: Matt Moses 3B / 04: Trevor Plouffe SS / 04: Glen Perkins LHP / 04: Steven Waldrop RHP / 04: Matthew Fox RHP / 04: Jay Rainville RHP /05: Matt Garza RHP / 05: Henry Sanchez 1B / 06: Chris Parmalee OF / 07: Ben Revere OF / 08: Aaron Hicks OF / 08: Carlos Gutierrez RHP / 08: Shooter Hunt RHP / 09: Kyle Gibson RHP / 09: Matthew Bashore LHP / 2010: Alex Wimmers RHP / 11: Levi Michael SS / 11: Travis Harrison 3B / 11: Hudson Boyd RHP / 12: Byron Buxton OF / 12: Jose Berrios RHP / 12: Luke Bard RHP / 13: Kohl Stewart RHP / 14: Nick Gordon SS / 15: Tyler Jay LHP / 16: Alex Kirilloff OF / 17: Royce Lewis SS / 17: Brent Rooker OF / 18: Trevor Larnach OF / 19: Keoni Cavaco SS / 2020: Aaron Sabato 1B / 21: Chase Petty RHP / 21: Noah Miller SS / 22: Brooks Lee SS / 23: Walker Jenkins OF / 23: Charlee Soto RHP

Petty was traded for 2 years of Sonny Gray and the the 33rd pick

Miller was traded for Margot & Rayne Doncon (who is at High A at age 20, which is 2 years younger than the avg MWL player).

Too early to judge those two.
 
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Twins had a bad run for a few years
2019: Cavaco
2020: Aaron Sabato
2021: Chase Petty (traded)
2021: Noah Miller (traded)

but if you go back and look at the 80's and 90's, there are a lot of "who the bleep is that" picks
(in 2004 had 5 1st round picks with two supplemental picks - and check out that group...)

1980: Jeff Reed, C / 81: Mike Sodders, 3B / 82: Bryan Oelkers, LHP / 83: Tim Belcher, P (did not sign) / 84: Jay Bell SS / 85: Jeff Bumgarner RHP / 86: Derek Parks RHP / 87: Willie Banks RHP / 88: Johnny Ard, RHP / 89: Chuck Knoblauch SS / 90: Todd Ritchie RHP / 90: Midre Cummings, OF / 91: Dave McCarty 1B / 91: Scott Stahoviak 3B / 92: Dan Serafini LHP / 93: Torii Hunter OF / 93: Jason Varitek C (did not sign) / 93: Marc Barcelo RHP / 93: Kelcy Mucker OF / 94: Todd Walker 2B / 94: Travis Miller LHP / 95: Mark Redman LHP / 96: Travis Lee 1B (did not sign) / 97: Michael Cuddyer SS / 98: Ryan Mills LHP / 99: BJ Garbe OF / 2000: Adam Johnson RHP / 00: Aaron Heilman RHP (did not sign) / 01: Joe Mauer C / 02: Denard Span OF / 03: Matt Moses 3B / 04: Trevor Plouffe SS / 04: Glen Perkins LHP / 04: Steven Waldrop RHP / 04: Matthew Fox RHP / 04: Jay Rainville RHP /05: Matt Garza RHP / 05: Henry Sanchez 1B / 06: Chris Parmalee OF / 07: Ben Revere OF / 08: Aaron Hicks OF / 08: Carlos Gutierrez RHP / 08: Shooter Hunt RHP / 09: Kyle Gibson RHP / 09: Matthew Bashore LHP / 2010: Alex Wimmers RHP / 11: Levi Michael SS / 11: Travis Harrison 3B / 11: Hudson Boyd RHP / 12: Byron Buxton OF / 12: Jose Berrios RHP / 12: Luke Bard RHP / 13: Kohl Stewart RHP / 14: Nick Gordon SS / 15: Tyler Jay LHP / 16: Alex Kirilloff OF / 17: Royce Lewis SS / 17: Brent Rooker OF / 18: Trevor Larnach OF / 19: Keoni Cavaco SS / 2020: Aaron Sabato 1B / 21: Chase Petty RHP / 21: Noah Miller SS / 22: Brooks Lee SS / 23: Walker Jenkins OF / 23: Charlee Soto RHP
Maybe go to your “happy place”?
 

the point - the baseball draft is a lot different now than in the 80's and 90's. teams - especially today - are scouting and evaluating these kids at an earlier age. they have more access to video and live evaluation at showcases, etc.

compare that to the 80's and 90's when some scout got in a beat up old car and drove around to HS and college fields to watch games in person, because that was the only way to actually see the players in competition.

some stats courtesy of Baseball America:

In the first round, 81.3% of signed pitchers have recorded at least one MLB strikeout. But what are the chances they’ll have a significant career? Only 14.3% of them will record 1,000 MLB strikeouts.

If we shift the focus to round two, the number of pitchers who record an MLB strikeout drops to 64.2%. The number who reach 1,000 strikeouts drops to 7.2%.

Just like the pitchers, 81% of drafted and signed first round hitters get an MLB hit, while 22.5% get 1,000 MLB hits. For the second round, 63.2% get an MLB hit, while 8.8% reach 1,000 MLB hits.


(in general, college position players have a higher % of success compared to HS players. for pitchers - more college RHP pan out while more HS LHP pan out.)
 


The Twins are 33-13 since April 22 against anyone not named the Yankees. If you also factor in the games they lost immediately after those series, they are 33-6. They're on a crazy run! Granted many of those were against losing teams. What a weird season so far.
 

The Twins are 33-13 since April 22 against anyone not named the Yankees. If you also factor in the games they lost immediately after those series, they are 33-6. They're on a crazy run! Granted many of those were against losing teams. What a weird season so far.
Especially since their "ace" has rapidly mutated into a pile of hot garbage.
 

Interesting, disappointing twist (also happened with Ryan and Larnach) -

Kirilloff vows to 'do a better job of communicating' after IL hiccup


MINNEAPOLIS -- The primary reason behind the Twins’ confusion regarding Alex Kirilloff’s deep underperformance this season had been that they’d never seen him hit this poorly, at any level, unless he was injured -- and they’d maintained all along that they thought he was finally healthy.

It turns out that he was, in fact, injured.

Though Kirilloff had been optioned down to Triple-A St. Paul last Thursday to address those struggles, the Twins instead rescinded the option and placed him on the Major League 10-day injured list for what is currently deemed an unspecified back issue. Kirilloff will seek a second opinion and determine next steps from a back specialist.

“The communication on that, if that was something that was worsening and he was unable to play, does need to be better and something he needs to be able to bring up and say,” manager Rocco Baldelli said. “He had the opportunity to do it. Hopefully, we can do that better next time.”

Kirilloff had been undergoing some treatment for back soreness this season, but that alone didn’t raise any significant alarm, Baldelli said, even after an MRI on May 26. Many -- if not most -- players in a big league clubhouse play through dings over the course of a 162-game season that don’t rise to the level of an injury that would necessitate an IL stint.
But this back issue worsened, Kirilloff said, since he first started feeling it in earnest roughly a month ago, and he and Baldelli agreed that the Twins hadn’t necessarily been made aware of that. Kirilloff said he’s now feeling soreness and pain in his lower back, coupled with related nerve issues that have started running down his leg.

He had the chance to bring it up to Baldelli when he was brought to the office for that conversation regarding the option down to Triple-A but did not, and perhaps attributed that in part to his surprise at being optioned at the time, though he ultimately took responsibility for the lack of communication.
“When we talked, we talked about hitting, and that's kind of where my focus was and how I was going to fix that,” Kirilloff said. “Just got lost in communication at the time. I'll just learn from it and do a better job moving forward.”
 

Interesting, disappointing twist (also happened with Ryan and Larnach) -

Kirilloff vows to 'do a better job of communicating' after IL hiccup


MINNEAPOLIS -- The primary reason behind the Twins’ confusion regarding Alex Kirilloff’s deep underperformance this season had been that they’d never seen him hit this poorly, at any level, unless he was injured -- and they’d maintained all along that they thought he was finally healthy.

It turns out that he was, in fact, injured.

Though Kirilloff had been optioned down to Triple-A St. Paul last Thursday to address those struggles, the Twins instead rescinded the option and placed him on the Major League 10-day injured list for what is currently deemed an unspecified back issue. Kirilloff will seek a second opinion and determine next steps from a back specialist.

“The communication on that, if that was something that was worsening and he was unable to play, does need to be better and something he needs to be able to bring up and say,” manager Rocco Baldelli said. “He had the opportunity to do it. Hopefully, we can do that better next time.”

Kirilloff had been undergoing some treatment for back soreness this season, but that alone didn’t raise any significant alarm, Baldelli said, even after an MRI on May 26. Many -- if not most -- players in a big league clubhouse play through dings over the course of a 162-game season that don’t rise to the level of an injury that would necessitate an IL stint.
But this back issue worsened, Kirilloff said, since he first started feeling it in earnest roughly a month ago, and he and Baldelli agreed that the Twins hadn’t necessarily been made aware of that. Kirilloff said he’s now feeling soreness and pain in his lower back, coupled with related nerve issues that have started running down his leg.

He had the chance to bring it up to Baldelli when he was brought to the office for that conversation regarding the option down to Triple-A but did not, and perhaps attributed that in part to his surprise at being optioned at the time, though he ultimately took responsibility for the lack of communication.
“When we talked, we talked about hitting, and that's kind of where my focus was and how I was going to fix that,” Kirilloff said. “Just got lost in communication at the time. I'll just learn from it and do a better job moving forward.”
They threw Salazar under the bus about this type of stuff two years ago. Players cover up/ hide injuries all the time, but you'd think in an organization worth a billion dollars, you'd leave no stone unturned in examining and evaluating your highest profile employees.
 




We have some holes, but having the confidence to win close games isn’t one of them. That belief is worth sooo much - time for one more!
 







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