Gopher_In_NYC
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Three trips to the World Series in that time, with two championships. If that is beyond the point of tolerance, how do you feel about the local NBA, NFL, and NHL franchises?60 years of the Griffith and Pohlad families is really more than any fan should have to endure.
Not great...but we were talking about the Twins organization in this conversation, correct?Three trips to the World Series in that time, with two championships. If that is beyond the point of tolerance, how do you feel about the local NBA, NFL, and NHL franchises?
To be fair, they really dug in in 2019 when they backed up a historically good offense with a slider-throwing middle-aged man and another guy with a massive arm injury.Say what you will about the Wilf's, but the Vikings are almost always trying to win in the current year. The same with the Wild. The Wolves haven't always but they are now.
How many years in the last 30 can you say the Twins were really all in on contending for a championship? 5? 10 at the most? That is why they deserve more scorn than the other teams, even though they have titles.
I've been out on Falvey since the 2019 trade deadline for that reason. If you aren't going to part with prospects to help that team, you never will. Always worried about a tomorrow that will never come.To be fair, they really dug in in 2019 when they backed up a historically good offense with a slider-throwing middle-aged man and another guy with a massive arm injury.
And as iof today, we’re in the playoffsI've been out on Falvey since the 2019 trade deadline for that reason. If you aren't going to part with prospects to help that team, you never will. Always worried about a tomorrow that will never come.
This team wasn't a "go all in" team. But a #5 starter and a couple of competent relievers better than Trevor Richards wouldn't have cost that much and they'd have about 5 more wins right now.
Retort to what?And as iof today, we’re in the playoffs
If we make the playoffs what will be your retort?
Making the playoffs (the Great Willenda)?Retort to what?
Say Hey
World Series Home Boy!
It’s a shame the economics of baseball means players like this will always only be playing for a select few teams.
Cory Provis said a bazillion times during the series he’s a platinum award winner at 2nd base.Apparently Gimenez mocked the Twins dugout after the game winning hit and said “thank you” to Rocco for walking the guy ahead of him (a no brainer with a left handed pitcher in).
This is where we’re at right now, a below average player mocking them. With no response.
Trying to win but having to endure this....Taylor is paying 2nd Apron tax. The Wilfs pay huge signing bonuses to skirt the limitations of the Salary Cap. Leopold agreed to eat the balances of the Parise and Suter contracts for the betterment of the organization.
He did the Steph Curry "Night Night" deal. Even if the played tomorrow, there wouldn't be any sort of response. That's not "The Twins Way".Apparently Gimenez mocked the Twins dugout after the game winning hit and said “thank you” to Rocco for walking the guy ahead of him (a no brainer with a left handed pitcher in).
This is where we’re at right now, a below average player mocking them. With no response.
He is due for a post season where he doesn't mess things up.New manager?
Whom?
Agreed. You don’t have parades for teams because they spend money.Trying to win but having to endure this....
Twins/Vikings/Wild/Wolves Championship appearance drought tracker
With the NFL season officially over, it’s now been a combined 97 seasons since any of them went to a championship game/series. The teams are 0-7 since then in chances to go to their championship.gopherhole.com
...equals the same thing in my book. All 4 Ownership groups (past & present) have sucked for well over 3 decades.
Try not. Do or do not.
For those of you wanting Rocco gone, name one realistic replacement that you think would bring different results. I'm convinced Rocco is hamstrung by a front office that dictates almost everything. Anyone they hire will be doing the exact same analytic moves that he does because their spreadsheet says to do so. The madness needs to stop, but it isn't going to until someone higher up the food chains is let go. A new manager is solving none of the Twins problems.
My response is completely opinion. I believe this to be true because I watch the games. I don't think anyone who knows baseball, really knows baseball, would continually make the decisions that are made in the Twins organization. Continuing to pinch hit Margo, various bullpen moves, nauseating lefty/righty hitting/pitching changes, etc. are my first thoughts. Rocco was an unestablished manager that can be controlled for that and possible other reasons. Again, this is my opinion. And no, there is no "spreadsheet", but we all know what is meant by that. The Twins aren't getting a manager that will be an old school baseball guy, managing with the flow of the game, making moves based on feel and such. Isn't happening until larger changes are made. Lastly, I feel that the front office has brought in the horses, for the most part, but the strategy is lacking.This is said a lot, and I'm not saying it's not accurate, but how do people know that Rocco is managing based on some Falvey spreadsheet?
This is true. But if the Pohlads won't fire them all at once, letting Rocco go is step one to getting rid of Falvey and his spreadsheet brigade.For those of you wanting Rocco gone, name one realistic replacement that you think would bring different results. I'm convinced Rocco is hamstrung by a front office that dictates almost everything. Anyone they hire will be doing the exact same analytic moves that he does because their spreadsheet says to do so. The madness needs to stop, but it isn't going to until someone higher up the food chains is let go. A new manager is solving none of the Twins problems.
It's a shame they wouldn't give Molitor a longer leash. He might have been the right combo. Old school but willing to listen to their analytics to a point. Gardy or TK would have ripped up their spreadsheet the moment they left his office.My response is completely opinion. I believe this to be true because I watch the games. I don't think anyone who knows baseball, really knows baseball, would continually make the decisions that are made in the Twins organization. Continuing to pinch hit Margo, various bullpen moves, nauseating lefty/righty hitting/pitching changes, etc. are my first thoughts. Rocco was an unestablished manager that can be controlled for that and possible other reasons. Again, this is my opinion. And no, there is no "spreadsheet", but we all know what is meant by that. The Twins aren't getting a manager that will be an old school baseball guy, managing with the flow of the game, making moves based on feel and such. Isn't happening until larger changes are made. Lastly, I feel that the front office has brought in the horses, for the most part, but the strategy is lacking.
Has anyone ever seen said mythic spreadsheets?This is true. But if the Pohlads won't fire them all at once, letting Rocco go is step one to getting rid of Falvey and his spreadsheet brigade.