All Things 2023 Minnesota Vikings In-Season Thread

apparently - if you believe Judd Zulgad, KOC said in his post-game presser that they chose not to spike the ball to stop the clock - because they did not want to give the Chargers the opportunity to make substitutions.

so that apparently came from the Head Coach.

could be worse - Dolphins put up 70 pts against Denver. Most pts in an NFL game since 1966. Washington put up 72 vs the Giants in '66. Dolphins had the ball in field-goal range at the end of the game and could have broken the NFL single-game regular-season scoring record, but knelt down to run out the clock.
I wouldn’t believe Judd. I heard KOC comments and he said nothing about that. Said he thought they could get the play fast enough to get 4 plays if needed. But Kirk couldn’t hear him in the headset.
 

I wouldn’t believe Judd. I heard KOC comments and he said nothing about that. Said he thought they could get the play fast enough to get 4 plays if needed. But Kirk couldn’t hear him in the headset.
They were taking all day. The crowd is yelling for them to snap the ball. Everything was rushed and a total mess on that play. It felt forced, which it was.
 

Glad I was watching my daughter play in the fall ball state tourney and missed this dumpster fire
 

Glad I was watching my daughter play in the fall ball state tourney and missed this dumpster fire
I listened to the postgame and it was mostly, as usual, the failures of the offense.

But these numbers are just beyond comprehension............Herbert completed 85% of his passes, 400 and some yards. that is flipping ridiculous in your home stadium. One receiver had 18 catches.....18 flipping catches for over 200 yards. That's literally unheard of in the NFL. The other receiver had over 100 yards. This defense is so pathetic, I just don't know what to say. Herbert dropped back 47 times and he was sacked once. That was only because Hunter stuck his paw out and knocked the ball out. We blitzed and could never get there. We are so slow in the secondary.

Also, we signed the tight end for decent money, to help us run the ball. We basically can't run. We signed Davenport to damn good money and he can't play. This Murphy Jr. guy was being talked up as a solid signing. He looks small and was being literally picked on today all game long.

This must be blown up. Trade Hunter and Cousins. Go into rebuild mode.
 

Let’s see what PA has to say tomorrow. I am thinking the team is a few tweaks from 3-0 for nordo. Rap show! Snapspot.
 


There's no reason not to spike it though. You're not realistically getting 4 plays off there.
If you spike it you’re only gonna get 3 plays to the end zone. Yes you would get 3 plays into the end zone with 30 seconds on the clock. Hell Kirk could even check down and throw short of the end zone once and you could get another play off.
 

If you spike it you’re only gonna get 3 plays to the end zone. Yes you would get 3 plays into the end zone with 30 seconds on the clock. Hell Kirk could even check down and throw short of the end zone once and you could get another play off.
I'm saying you're likely only getting 3 plays either way, so you're far better off to spike it and take the full play clock rather than rushing. Best case, without spikings, there would have been 15-20 seconds when they snapped it. As it was there was 12.
 


I'm saying you're likely only getting 3 plays either way, so you're far better off to spike it and take the full play clock rather than rushing. Best case, without spikings, there would have been 15-20 seconds when they snapped it. As it was there was 12.
I see. Misread it.
 



Decision not to draft defense with first rounder was the wrong one.

We did run the ball effectively several times today.

Keenan Allen did win today against Byron Murphy, no doubt. He’s a great reciever. Herbert highest paid QB in league for a reason?

If Kirk puts a little more touch and arc on the last pass to KJ, it’s a walk off homer. Instead it was uncatchable.

If the ball doesn’t freak tip up twice on the last play, we have one more chance to win the game.


We’re getting all the bad luck this year that we used up last year.
 

Decision not to draft defense with first rounder was the wrong one.

We did run the ball effectively several times today.

Keenan Allen did win today against Byron Murphy, no doubt. He’s a great reciever. Herbert highest paid QB in league for a reason?

If Kirk puts a little more touch and arc on the last pass to KJ, it’s a walk off homer. Instead it was uncatchable.

If the ball doesn’t freak tip up twice on the last play, we have one more chance to win the game.


We’re getting all the bad luck this year that we used up last year.
85% completion rate and one wr going over 200 yards and the other over 100 is f------- ridiculous. This at home, no less.
 


Broncos-Bears will be a barn burner anticipated by football fans across America.

 



We gotta do better...Tankathon has the Vikings in the third slot behind the Bears and Broncos.
 


No, they're not blaming the fans.


But it's exactly like what I was thinking: after Kirk wildcat'ed it in Buffalo last year and KOC was pissed as hell that he just up and decided what to do, he basically told Kirk never to do that again. So Kirk was trying to hear KOC and KOC was trying to scream it into the microphone.
 


No, they're not blaming the fans.


But it's exactly like what I was thinking: after Kirk wildcat'ed it in Buffalo last year and KOC was pissed as hell that he just up and decided what to do, he basically told Kirk never to do that again. So Kirk was trying to hear KOC and KOC was trying to scream it into the microphone.
You would think the entire coaching staff on the bench would have been giving the "spike it charades signal".

As advanced as football is these days, there is some really basic dumb stuff. ND only had 10 players on the field for the OSU sneak, with a TO left.
 


You would think the entire coaching staff on the bench would have been giving the "spike it charades signal".

As advanced as football is these days, there is some really basic dumb stuff. ND only had 10 players on the field for the OSU sneak, with a TO left.
Yeah I'm not excusing away dumb mistakes, but regarding your last point, people really don't understand how fast paced and hectic things can be at field level, compared to watching on TV. Throw 70,000 screaming fans into the mix and it makes for some screw ups.
 

2022 Calendar Year Vikes under KOC 11-0 in 1 score games.
2023 Calendar Year Vikes under KOC 0-4 in 1 score games (including WC game last January).

Law of Averages.
 

I listened to the postgame and it was mostly, as usual, the failures of the offense.

But these numbers are just beyond comprehension............Herbert completed 85% of his passes, 400 and some yards. that is flipping ridiculous in your home stadium. One receiver had 18 catches.....18 flipping catches for over 200 yards. That's literally unheard of in the NFL. The other receiver had over 100 yards. This defense is so pathetic, I just don't know what to say. Herbert dropped back 47 times and he was sacked once. That was only because Hunter stuck his paw out and knocked the ball out. We blitzed and could never get there. We are so slow in the secondary.
So perhaps Ed Donatell got more flack than he deserved last year.
 

If that play has just bounced incomplete, as it should have 99.9999999% of the time, and we got another play off … no one is talking about the lack of clocking it.

@Ope3 do 2021 in there too, please. Swear we lost a bunch of close ones Zim’s last year. Thank you!
 

The State of Colorado was outscored 112-26 this weekend. Minnesota played like Champions!
 

Let’s see what PA has to say.

Spaulding - don't know if you were listening, but PA went on this crazy rant today. As he tells it, during early warmups, the Chargers' place-kicker was warming up - but instead of kicking the ball down the field, he was on the Chargers' sideline and kicking balls across the field into the Vikings bench area. PA said several footballs were whizzing by him and almost hitting other people on the sidelines, so PA went over and complained to the Vikings head of security, who asked/demanded that the Chargers' kicker stop targeting the Vikings sideline.

it was a hoot. PA made it sound as if he was in fear of his life from these dangerous flying footballs.
 

If that play has just bounced incomplete, as it should have 99.9999999% of the time, and we got another play off … no one is talking about the lack of clocking it.

@Ope3 do 2021 in there too, please. Swear we lost a bunch of close ones Zim’s last year. Thank you!
Although there is some on the field personnel around from 2021, with new GM, HC, Offense and Defense Coordinators, to me it's ancient history as far as relevance to the here & now.
 
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With NFL parity, I think way too much emphasis is put on the one score game analysis. Sure, there are blow outs every weekend but most games end up being fairly closely scored, even if not that closely paid. Is this Vikings team a couple of bad bounces away from being contenders? No.

The problem with this team is that a few skill players are absorbing way too much of the salary cap and it only stands to get worse. I like Cousins. I think he's a good to very good QB but he is not great. Very few QBs are good enough to command the percentage of cap that he does and still compete for championships. In fact, Mahomes might be the only guy that fits that bill. If Jefferson resets the receiver market, you have Cousins, JJ and TJH getting a big chunk of the cap. How do you improve the defense and the OL? The draft? That takes time and at this point, the window to win with these guys is closed.

Who knows if Kirk would waive his no trade clause but in my mind, a reverse Sam Bradford for NYJ's #1 pick would be great but at this point, NYJ might be content to throw their hat into the CW lottery.

I don't think trading JJ should be off the table either. He has significant value but would be a detriment to a rebuild, financial and, as inevitably happens with recievers, will become frustrated with any new QB. I don't think this team is a player or two away. The cupboard is pretty bare. Unless Cousins is willing to take a significant cut, JJ is willing to sign for less than market reset, and there's a way to cut a ton of dead weight and free up salary, I don't see how there's an alternative to a rebuild.
 

Who knows if Kirk would waive his no trade clause but in my mind, a reverse Sam Bradford for NYJ's #1 pick would be great but at this point, NYJ might be content to throw their hat into the CW lottery.
The Jets don't even have a #1 to trade for Cousins. The 2024 #1 is tied up with the Aaron Rodgers deal, even though it will be a #2 based on playing time incentives which will most likely not be reached.
 

Spaulding - don't know if you were listening, but PA went on this crazy rant today. As he tells it, during early warmups, the Chargers' place-kicker was warming up - but instead of kicking the ball down the field, he was on the Chargers' sideline and kicking balls across the field into the Vikings bench area. PA said several footballs were whizzing by him and almost hitting other people on the sidelines, so PA went over and complained to the Vikings head of security, who asked/demanded that the Chargers' kicker stop targeting the Vikings sideline.

it was a hoot. PA made it sound as if he was in fear of his life from these dangerous flying footballs.
I missed it. I can imagine PA playing the protector role.
 

The Jets don't even have a #1 to trade for Cousins. The 2024 #1 is tied up with the Aaron Rodgers deal, even though it will be a #2 based on playing time incentives which will most likely not be reached.
Can the Vikings just accept the pick subject to the conditions? I'm guessing not. It would be fitting if they could, Rodgers makes a miraculous recovery and they have to give it to the Packers.
 




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