All Things 2022 Minnesota Vikings Off-Season Thread

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kg21 said:
The overtime rules in the NFL are such bullshit. Buffalo never gets to touch the ball.

A coin flip is so huge.
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Yeah. For playoffs at least go to college rules. From a fan perspective, college rules in ot here would've added even more excitement to an already amazing game. Feel like I was cheated a bit myself not getting to see if buffalo could respond.
 


Nax5 said:
That Bills v Chiefs game was an all-time classic. One of the best games I've seen.

Feel terrible for the Bills. That entire team must have felt ecstatic before those final 13 seconds. Never recovered going into OT.

NFC looks so old and slow in comparison.
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NFC plays better defense. You aren't putting up 36 or 42 against the niners or rams.
 


kg21 said:
The overtime rules in the NFL are such bullshit. Buffalo never gets to touch the ball.

A coin flip is so huge.
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I just cannot understand why -- even if it were just for the playoffs -- they keep sudden death if the first drive scores a touchdown.

Why??

Let the other team have one drive to try to answer. How is that possibly wrong??

They do it if the first drive "only" gets a FG.

So stupid.
 


Ravens fire their DC since 2018, with the org (LB coach) since 2012.

No idea if he would be a fit here, but whomever we eventually hire will need a DC.


Baltimore ranked No. 25 on defense last season, the first time the Ravens had finished out of the top 10 in Martindale's four seasons as defensive coordinator. The Ravens also allowed the second-most yards (363.4) in the franchise's 26-year history, according to ESPN Stats & Information research.

Martindale, 58, had been with the Ravens since their 2012 Super Bowl season and was known for his ultra-aggressive style. The Ravens regularly ranked among the highest-blitzing teams.

This season, the Ravens struggled after losing three of their four starters in the secondary -- cornerbacks Marlon Humphrey and Marcus Peters and safety DeShon Elliott -- to season-ending injuries. Baltimore had trouble stopping teams late in games, forcing turnovers and preventing big plays in the passing game.

The Ravens gave up the most completions of 20 or more yards in the NFL (74) and 40 yards or more (16). Baltimore also managed just 34 sacks this season, which ranked 22nd in the league.

This was unlike any season under Martindale, whose defenses ranked No. 1 in 2018, No. 4 in 2019 and No. 7 in 2020. He had been considered a head-coaching candidate, even interviewing for the New York Giants job in 2020.
 

Gophers_4life said:
I just cannot understand why -- even if it were just for the playoffs -- they keep sudden death if the first drive scores a touchdown.

Why??

Let the other team have one drive to try to answer. How is that possibly wrong??

They do it if the first drive "only" gets a FG.

So stupid.
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I'm in the minority but I don't have any problem with the current NFL OT rule. If Buffalo wants to get the ball, stop them.

Or don't let it get to OT in the first place. Allowing them to drive 44 yards in 13 seconds, brutal. Maybe should have also squib kicked, could have ate up a few ticks on the clock.
 

Ope3 said:
I'm in the minority but I don't have any problem with the current NFL OT rule. If Buffalo wants to get the ball, stop them.

Or don't let it get to OT in the first place. Allowing them to drive 44 yards in 13 seconds, brutal. Maybe should have also squib kicked, could have ate up a few ticks on the clock.
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Well like I said, and I have no idea if it would be a worthwhile compromise or not, but they could keep it as is for the regular season.

I just hate the other team not even getting to touch the ball, in a playoff game OT.
 





Gophers_4life said:
Well like I said, and I have no idea if it would be a worthwhile compromise or not, but they could keep it as is for the regular season.

I just hate the other team not even getting to touch the ball, in a playoff game OT.
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I wouldn't be against playing a full non-sudden death period as well. NFL probably doesn't want the early games overlapping into the late ones for TV though.

I honestly don't think there is a perfect OT rule, every format has pros and cons. If both teams get the ball no matter what, it could on and on. The NCAA rule where each team gets it at the 25, already in FG range, not a fan of that either.
 

Ope3 said:
I wouldn't be against playing a full non-sudden death period as well. NFL probably doesn't want the early games overlapping into the late ones for TV though.

I honestly don't think there is a perfect OT rule, every format has pros and cons. If both teams get the ball no matter what, it could on and on. The NCAA rule where each team gets it at the 25, already in FG range, not a fan of that either.
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You could do each team gets a possession and sudden death applies at the end of the 2nd possession going forward.

Examples:
- first team: TD +7 0, second team: no TD = game ends at the end of that drive +7 0
- first team: FG +3 0, second team: FG +3 +3, third drive back to first team: FG = game ends +6 +3

So it only goes on the full period if there are no scores (after the first two drives).
 

Gophers_4life said:
You could do each team gets a possession and sudden death applies at the end of the 2nd possession going forward.

Examples:
- first team: TD +7 0, second team: no TD = game ends at the end of that drive +7 0
- first team: FG +3 0, second team: FG +3 +3, third drive back to first team: FG = game ends +6 +3

So it only goes on the full period if there are no scores (after the first two drives).
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Under that rule, I would assume most teams would elect to kick, knowing they will get the ball back no matter what, then they know what they have to do (have to go for it on 4th down etc). It would be interesting, how often would the 2nd team go for 2, knowing at that point they may not get the ball?

Again Cons, game could go on a long time with 2 TD drives then a few scoreless possessions. Also don't like the 4th down advantage for the team getting the ball 2nd, which I am also not a fan of in the NCAA format.

At least with the current rule takes away the scenario of receiving team getting the ball (say at their own 25), put together a minimal drive across the opposition's 40 yd line and a long FG to end it.

Nothing's perfect.
 



Was hoping for one of these "young, offensive minded coaches", but that doesn't seem to be what the Wilfs want.


Last Wednesday, the Vikings met with Dallas Cowboys defensive coordinator Dan Quinn about Mike Zimmer’s old job. Apparently, Quinn impressed Minnesota in his interview as ESPN’s Dan Graziano reported on Friday that the team has the current Cowboys defensive coordinator high on their list, “if not at the top.”

In addition to Quinn, current Tampa Bay Buccaneers defensive coordinator Todd Bowles seems to have a legitimate shot at becoming the next head coach of the Vikings.

According to NFL Media’s Mike Garafolo on Sunday, Bowles is “firmly in the running,” for Minnesota’s head coaching vacancy, and he is expected to get a second interview from the team.

Both Quinn and Bowles have already been head coaches in the NFL as Quinn was in charge of the Atlanta Falcons from 2015 to 2020 and Bowles held the role for the New York Jets from 2015 to 2018.

Interestingly, both candidates grew up in New Jersey, which also happens to be where Minnesota’s owners, the Wilfs, are from. Hopefully, their hometowns aren’t an actual factor in this search.
 


7Gopher7 said:
The overtime setup in college is so much better. Not even close!
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In the playoffs it's really sad that a coin flip carries so much weight.

I would love to see more teams go for 2 in the final minutes of the game. Problem is even if it's the right call statistically, the coach gets blamed when it fails and he doesn't get blamed if they lose the coin toss.
 






TruthSeeker said:
Belichek was a retread.
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Ope3 said:
So were Pete Carrol (though he had big NCAA success in between), Andy Reid and Bruce Arians.
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So was Mike Shanahan with Denver. I think he is a good comp to Raheem Morris. Was very young when he coached the Raiders, and they just weren't very good (and he had to deal with Al Davis.)
 

I was listening to KFAN on Sunday.
8am - an hour show about the Packer game
9 to 11am- Barreiro spent at least 40 minutes of his 2-hour show talking about the Packers. (also
talked about the Indiana basketball team, but not a word about Gopher hoops)
11 to Noon- Gaard spent 30 minutes of a 1-hr show talking about the Packers.

Ladies and gentlemen, it's the Packer Radio Network on KFAN.
 

Ope3 said:
I'm in the minority but I don't have any problem with the current NFL OT rule. If Buffalo wants to get the ball, stop them.

Or don't let it get to OT in the first place. Allowing them to drive 44 yards in 13 seconds, brutal. Maybe should have also squib kicked, could have ate up a few ticks on the clock.
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It would be the same as in baseball, you flip a coin as to who bats first, and if they hit a home run on the first pitch, the game is over.

If Buffalo won the toss, I have no doubt they go down and score a td. Neither team could stop the other.

It came down to a coin flip.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
I was listening to KFAN on Sunday.
8am - an hour show about the Packer game
9 to 11am- Barreiro spent at least 40 minutes of his 2-hour show talking about the Packers. (also
talked about the Indiana basketball team, but not a word about Gopher hoops)
11 to Noon- Gaard spent 30 minutes of a 1-hr show talking about the Packers.

Ladies and gentlemen, it's the Packer Radio Network on KFAN.
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Kfan sucks balls.
 


kg21 said:
It would be the same as in baseball, you flip a coin as to who bats first, and if they hit a home run on the first pitch, the game is over.

If Buffalo won the toss, I have no doubt they go down and score a td. Neither team could stop the other.

It came down to a coin flip.
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Not the same. In football on any given play the defense can take the ball away or score themselves.
 

Make OT 10 minutes and just play it out. If after 10 min. there is no winner, then continue the game until someone scores. Coin flip to start OT, then after 10 minutes, treat it like the end of a quarter. Do that for 10 minute stretches until the next score.
 

GFBfan said:
Make OT 10 minutes and just play it out. If after 10 min. there is no winner, then continue the game until someone scores. Coin flip to start OT, then after 10 minutes, treat it like the end of a quarter. Do that for 10 minute stretches until the next score.
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In the playoffs each team should get the ball on offense an equal number of times. Once one team is ahead and its offensive possessions are equal to or less than the opponent the game is over. That ensures its actually decided on the field. They could force them to go for two point conversions on touchdowns to shorten the game.

Regular season they can leave it as is because it's not worth the injury risk/punishment of an extended game.
 


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