All Things 2022 Minnesota Vikings In-Season Thread

Ogee Oglethorpe

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"It is undisputed that Mr. Watson's conduct does not fall into the category of violent conduct that would require the minimum 6-game suspension. It likewise is undisputed that prior cases involving non-violent sexual assault have resulted in discipline far less severe than what the NFL proposes here, with the most severe penalty being a 3-game suspension for a player who had been previously warned about his conduct."


Good. We have no proof that these women didn't just make the whole thing up.

No crime was committed. Settlements were made out of court.


No way he should have to be suspended the whole season too.
Privately, Roger G and the NFL don't give a shit about suspending or fining Watson; this is all about the image of the shield and not appearing to be soft or not taking this seriously enough. It's 100% posturing and optics at this point. I don't really care if he gets 6 games or 30 games, makes no difference to me

I'm generally one of the few that typically defend Goodell (he's easily the most effective commissioner of any of the sports right now), but he needs to divorce himself from being involved in player discipline. He has way, way too much influence and control in that area and a lot of the decisions have been terrible decisions honestly.
 

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I'm already half correct. Goddell appointed someone else.

I'm warming up your big plate of crow.
Goodell appointed former New Jersey AG Peter Harvey. You might recognize the name because he has served as Goodell’s designee before and was on the panel that reviewed Ezekiel Elliot’s case. Elliot had a DV accusation from his ex-girlfriend. Elliot was never found guilty, but was still suspended 6 games despite appealing the process. Heck, Roethlisberger was never criminally charged and he still got 6 games. Wether you agree with those suspensions or not, make no mistake by believing Harvey is actually an impartial party or that the NFL won’t suspend players just because they were not criminally charged.
 
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don't forget that times change, political climates change, and public opinion can change.

like it or not, we are living in the age of cancel culture.

the NFL may be a big, powerful organization, but they still don't want to be targeted with negative publicity.

a decision on Watson that is considered to be "too lenient" will result in protests, attempts at boycotts, attempts to target companies that sponsor the NFL, etc.

Watson is one player. Goodell has the entire league to think about. If Goodell thinks the best decision for the league is to throw Watson under the bus, he'll do it without blinking an eye.

when all is said and done, the final suspension will be more than 6 games.
 

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Goodell appointed former New Jersey AG Peter Harvey. You might recognize the name because he has served as Goodell’s designee before and was on the panel that reviewed Ezekiel Elliot’s case. Elliot had a DV accusation from his ex-girlfriend. Elliot was never found guilty, but was still suspended 6 games despite appealing the process. Heck, Roethlisberger was never criminally charged and he still got 6 games. Wether you agree with those suspensions or not, make no mistake by believing Harvey is actually an impartial party or that the NFL won’t suspend players just because they were not criminally charged.
I've said it before, I'm NO fan of Zeke at all (and of course hate the Cowboys), but Zeke got absolutely f'd on that suspension. There was ZERO reason to suspend Zeke there. I don't remember enough about Big Ben's situation back then to have had much of an opinion.

At this point, it seems clear that in 2020, the players bargained for essentially NO change or improvement in the disciplinary process. Business as usual....
 

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It is hilarious how screwed the Browns are.
 


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Bradley is still garbage. Didn't everyone figure this out 3 years ago? It's amazing how some guys hang around for years.
 






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Bradley is still garbage. Didn't everyone figure this out 3 years ago? It's amazing how some guys hang around for years.
If you get drafted in the first round, GMs hate to cut you and admit they were wrong. His chances of making the team are much less with a new GM. Look at Treadwell. Guy was trash from the first snap, but hung around far too long. Bradbury at least is competent in the zone running game. Just don’t ask him to pass pro a DT (so at least he’s only incompetent in half the plays).
 

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It is hilarious how screwed the Browns are.
They’ve had 10 or more wins in a season 3 times since 1989. Watson only getting a 6 game suspension is relatively un-Brown like. To go full Brownie, Watson has his 6 game suspension upheld at only 6, but he tears his ACL in practice the week before returning. I think the Browns are the only sports entity more Charlie Brown-like than MN sports.

At a Gopher game a few years ago a couple seats from me was this dude in full Browns regalia. Browns hat, Browns jacket, Browns gloves. I’m just sitting there thinking to myself, “damn, dude, how much do you love constant heartbreak?” About the only time as a Gopher fan I could feel pity for somebody else more than myself.
 

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Goodell appointed former New Jersey AG Peter Harvey. You might recognize the name because he has served as Goodell’s designee before and was on the panel that reviewed Ezekiel Elliot’s case. Elliot had a DV accusation from his ex-girlfriend. Elliot was never found guilty, but was still suspended 6 games despite appealing the process. Heck, Roethlisberger was never criminally charged and he still got 6 games. Wether you agree with those suspensions or not, make no mistake by believing Harvey is actually an impartial party or that the NFL won’t suspend players just because they were not criminally charged.
Watson was suspended, and for 6 games. That is fine. That was the ruling, and it was fair.

They won't go beyond it.
 

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like it or not, we are living in the age of cancel culture.
No.

I don't have to accept that, or hysterical, excessive "wokeness".

We can push and fight back. "We" (We???!!!!?? ..... I ! ... The royal we!) meaning the 75+% of sane, moderate folks in the middle who don't go to a rally, don't go to a protest, don't get frothing angry, and so noone gives a s__t what we think and won't point a camera at us or stick a microphone in our face for ratings, clicks, or views.
 



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They’ve had 10 or more wins in a season 3 times since 1989. Watson only getting a 6 game suspension is relatively un-Brown like. To go full Brownie, Watson has his 6 game suspension upheld at only 6, but he tears his ACL in practice the week before returning. I think the Browns are the only sports entity more Charlie Brown-like than MN sports.

At a Gopher game a few years ago a couple seats from me was this dude in full Browns regalia. Browns hat, Browns jacket, Browns gloves. I’m just sitting there thinking to myself, “damn, dude, how much do you love constant heartbreak?” About the only time as a Gopher fan I could feel pity for somebody else more than myself.
Lions. :cool:
 

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Watson was suspended, and for 6 games. That is fine. That was the ruling, and it was fair.

They won't go beyond it.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if Watson didn't play a single down of football this season.

I also fully expect him to get into trouble again.
 






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