Wow! ESPN...I mean ABC taking every opportunity to tell us the B1G is over-rated.

[upnorthkid]

2014 four wasn’t enough.
I agree. 8 would be a good number with 5 auto bids.

Although this year we had an 11 win conference champ left out.


At 6 12-1 Boise state whose only loss is by 3 @ the only unbeaten team would be out in favor of 2 loss Georgia, 2 loss Ohio state, 2 loss Texas, and a notre dame team who lost to northern Illinois. And they’d be left out at 8 too if there were no auto bids

Boise state probably going to lose to Penn state. But a system that leaves them out is stupid. If they don’t deserve to be there they’ll simply lose.

Think this is an interesting thought but I don’t believe for a minute the committee didn’t manipulate the seeds. I would guess they would’ve bumped Boise in and Indiana out if it was 8.

 

[Lou Brown]

I’m someone who dislikes the playoff though. I don’t think any two or three loss teams deserve a chance to be named champion. What was unique about college football was the best team during the entire year was crowned champion, not the team that strung a few wins together at the end of the year like in most sports.

Love this. I’m 100% in the go back to Bowl Games and voting. It was cool, there was tradition, different then other sports and we argued about it. It made CFB unique.

Playoffs are cookie cutter, everybody gets a trophy, corporate garbage. It’s ok for things to be abstract and not have a right answer. For me it’s more fun that way.

Life isn’t fair, I’m just fine if college football isn’t either.

 

[alchemy2u]

So, Ohio St. is 3-12-1 against the SEC all time. Good to know, so does that mean Tennessee, Alabama, Ole Miss, and South Carolina all get to advance?

And the Gophers are 5-2 vs SEC

 

[alchemy2u]

Hey guys, quit bitching about Indiana being in the playoffs, it is how the Gopher will make it in someday!

 

[Some guy]

Hey guys, quit bitching about Indiana being in the playoffs, it is how the Gopher will make it in someday!

The gophers probably will make it by winning like 10-11 games

It would suck that that’s disqualifying if you have the wrong name
Meanwhile Tennessee has two losses and a similar schedule and no questions asked

 

[Pompous Elitist]

The gophers probably will make it by winning like 10-11 games

It would suck that that’s disqualifying if you have the wrong name
Meanwhile Tennessee has two losses and a similar schedule and no questions asked

Not only that but I guess we already know the best teams.

I don’t, but anyway.

 

[Some guy]

Not only that but I guess we already know the best teams.

I don’t, but anyway.

If Arizona state beats Texas and Notre dame beats Georgia does it mean that Illinois should’ve been in over Tennessee?

The answer is no

 

[Pompous Elitist]

Yeah, it doesn’t have to be this way, and probably won’t be forever. It’ll be even bigger for more tv $. The conference and name discrimination will endure.

 

[SeaBee_Gopher]

I really like the current set up. It allows underdogs to get in and diversifies the field. I don’t care if they get crushed. So do teams like Tennessee! Tons of teams got crushed in the old system and even in the more equal NFL. Part of what makes the basketball tournament so cool is the occasional huge upset, but most of the time those same teams get crushed.

At least by the quarterfinals, teams will be more equally matched, not perfect, but better, and by the semi-finals, you’ll really be down to the best four teams.

I’m with those that want the regular season to matter more. If you lose three games, you should be out. I don’t care if you’re playing better at the end of the year or you’re in a tougher conference. You lost three games. Get over it. You’re far from a perfect team at that point.

Only tweak for me would be add home games in the quarterfinals too and maybe use a computer model in addition to the human committee. Do some of both to select teams.

It will be fun to see how it eventually turns out!

 

[LongLiveMilesTarver]

You mean because they lost to Georgia in a game that almost half their starting lineup opted out of?

Per ESPN: “The Seminoles played without their top two quarterbacks, top two running backs, top two receivers, starting tight end, three starting defensive linemen, two of three starting linebackers and three starting defensive backs. They were down 29 scholarship players in all.”

Probably not a playoff team without their top two QBs, same as OSU wasn’t when they trotted the SD kid out against mizzou or literally any of the teams this year wouldn’t be.

But they would’ve been in in the system we just drew up. Probably would’ve showed better given less opt outs. You’re picking a very odd circumstance of losing your top two QBs and then getting trashed after over half your starting lineup opts out to try justify what exactly?

All I know is Georgia should not be in the playoffs if beck doesn't play. The precident was det last year.

 

[Wally]

Making this the criteria kind of defeats the season long argument of what CFB has always been. Teams upset teams all the time. Because they’re the “best” in that 3-4 game stretch they should be the champion? We should put the entire sec and b10 given we’ve seen awful teams in those leagues win games in the regular season. To me the 4-8 (5 ccs plus 3 autos) would be a much better combo of the two and I’d much rather go back to 4 than up to 16. Season long success and winning when it matters.

I think it's better that more teams have a shot at it, more entertaining which is all I care about.

 

[Some guy]

I think it's better that more teams have a shot at it, more entertaining which is all I care about.

It’s kind of like politics

Purists prefer 2 to 12
But they also prefer a real 12 to just a power ranking of name brand schools for the 12


If we are going to have a playoff. Conference winners. Teams with fewer losses.

I already know Alabama is like 4-6th in the SEC.
Boise state probably worse, but I don’t know for sure. Give me Boise. I know for sure bama lost to a couple 6-6 teams and a TN team that got routed by #8

 

[MNfootballfan]

Love this. I’m 100% in the go back to Bowl Games and voting. It was cool, there was tradition, different then other sports and we argued about it. It made CFB unique.

Playoffs are cookie cutter, everybody gets a trophy, corporate garbage. It’s ok for things to be abstract and not have a right answer. For me it’s more fun that way.

Life isn’t fair, I’m just fine if college football isn’t either.

Isn't the playoffs actually the opposite? In theory with these 12 teams, without playoffs would be 6 bowl games with 6 champions? Now there will only be one champion... the champion will along the way win the Rose Bowl, etc but there will only be one true champion?

Indiana, SMU, Clemson and Tennessee can't even say they made a bowl game this year.

 

[cncmin]

SEC! SEC! SEC!

Dumbest chant ever. Hearing it at OSU was musical.

 

[Ope3]

Next time someone tells you PJ is the worst game manager remind them that Dabo just called timeout on 3rd and goal down 14 with 8 minutes left

Plus ate up another minute of clock to not score at all, just for good measure.

 

[Ope3]

I wonder if Sean McDunough would like to clarify his remarks from last night?

Nothing happened on Saturday that would change one"s opinion that Indiana got a Playoff bid by playing a pretty soft Big 10 schedule along with an even worse Non-conference slate.

 

[Lou Brown]

Isn't the playoffs actually the opposite? In theory with these 12 teams, without playoffs would be 6 bowl games with 6 champions? Now there will only be one champion... the champion will along the way win the Rose Bowl, etc but there will only be one true champion?

Indiana, SMU, Clemson and Tennessee can't even say they made a bowl game this year.

The trophy is that 12 teams get a reset on their season and a chance to play for the natty. It’s fine. I don’t love it. I prefer life before the CFP.

 

[Ope3]

I think the cold played a huge advantage. It’s nice seeing SEC come up this far cause let’s be honest they’re not used to the weather and they would rather play in a indoor climate controlled stadium

I'm not sure the cold was even a marginal advantage. It's not like Knoxville, TN is tropical. Evening temps yesterday were mid 30s, only about 10 degrees warmer than Columbus. Didn't look windy last night, nothing really prohibitive.

 

[bleedsmaroonandgold]

I'm not sure the cold was even a marginal advantage. It's not like Knoxville, TN is tropical. Evening temps yesterday were mid 30s, only about 10 degrees warmer than Columbus. Didn't look windy last night, nothing really prohibitive.

Everybody getting a trophy is Scott Frost's UCF team claiming a national championship (and i can't actually blame them, they never lost, and in any rational sports structure, to not be a champion, you gave to get beat by someone).

In the new system, instead of a trophy, UCF would have gotten a ticket to the dance. They only get the trophy if they earn it on the field.

 

[MilosRevenge]

I'm not sure the cold was even a marginal advantage. It's not like Knoxville, TN is tropical. Evening temps yesterday were mid 30s, only about 10 degrees warmer than Columbus. Didn't look windy last night, nothing really prohibitive.

They don't play football outside in Knoxville in December though. It was their coldest game since 1977.

 

[Ope3]

I understand your point of view, but I prefer the more objective approach. Plus this weekend’s games were very fun to watch.

Really? Other than maybe a half of the Texas-Clemson game it was pretty much a yawner.

Even then I was more keeping an eye on Steelers-Ravens, especially because the pizza joint I was at only had 1 TV. Majority (& the waitress) voted NFL.

I caught up on CFP via DVR.

 

[Ope3]

It is interesting that the SEC doesn’t seem to be dominating the playoff the last couple of years now that the big ten and Big 12 and ACC can compensate players

Portal has just as much impact, IMO.

 

[Ope3]

They don't play football outside in Knoxville in December though. It was their coldest game since 1977.

They hadn't played December football outside in Columbus either until yesterday.

 

[Ope3]

Everybody getting a trophy is Scott Frost's UCF team claiming a national championship (and i can't actually blame them, they never lost, and in any rational sports structure, to not be a champion, you gave to get beat by someone).

In the new system, instead of a trophy, UCF would have gotten a ticket to the dance. They only get the trophy if they earn it on the field.

Not sure what this had to do with my post about the weather in Columbus vs Knoxville, but...ok.

 

[Jack jones]

No. Indiana isn’t a very physical team. They don’t match up well with physical teams.
They would’ve beat the gophers the first half the year. It would’ve been a pick em for me at the end of the year. And Indiana certainly would’ve been the favorite so the gophers is the smarter bet with the spread.

In the top half of the conference they were 1-1. Beat Michigan by 5 at home.

I would pick home team in most games Indiana Vs top half of the conference.
End of the year Iowa without a QB I pick Indiana at either site. I probably pick them over USC at either site. Against Penn state or Oregon I pick against Indiana either site.



But I still think Indiana should’ve made the playoff. Because that’s speculation. Based on what they actually did was beat up on average and below average teams. Which bama failed to do

I hope you were kidding about ND being the National Champion. I agree with comments concerning Indiana.

 

[WAGopher]

Really? Other than maybe a half of the Texas-Clemson game it was pretty much a yawner.

Even then I was more keeping an eye on Steelers-Ravens, especially because the pizza joint I was at only had 1 TV. Majority (& the waitress) voted NFL.

I caught up on CFP via DVR.

I thoroughly enjoyed the day. I had 3 football games on at the same time (multi-view rocks) watching the CFP, FCS and NFL. Even when the games were decided early, I was getting to know the teams that are moving on a little better. The only game I stopped paying attention to was the OSU - Tennessee game when they sent in the subs with about 9 minutes left. But then I switched over to Pat’s sideline broadcast and had some good laughs.

 

[Ope3]

Never been a three loss national champion. If they keep expanding the playoff there will be a day a three loss team makes a run and maybe wins it. Then the game will have a crappy crowned champion and not a season long excellence team. Won’t that be a proud moment for the game? The idea a playoff always crowns the ‘best’ team is false. NCAA basketball tournament regularly demonstrates the best team can falter.

If there is a 3 Loss Champion, that team would still have probably 14 Wins, including the last 4 against the Top 15 in Dec-Jan.

I would still deem that rather impressive.

 

[Catechol]

Really? Other than maybe a half of the Texas-Clemson game it was pretty much a yawner.

Even then I was more keeping an eye on Steelers-Ravens, especially because the pizza joint I was at only had 1 TV. Majority (& the waitress) voted NFL.

I caught up on CFP via DVR.

Agree, all the games were pretty terrible. I was excited for the matchups and they did disappoint.

 

[Duker]

Agreed pitiful announcing. Ohio State going to fuck Tennessee in the ass and then shove their poopy dick down their throat for good measure. And they can all gag SEC SEC SEC as Ohio State literally fucks the shit out of their throat

Really unnecessary language

 

[disco]

I was a big proponent of 12 if there were going to be 9-10 autobids for the 10 conference champs (which have become 9)

With only 5 auto bids, 8 or 10 is a better number.


But at the same time, I’m okay with 12. Because 11-1 Indiana should be in if 11-2 Texas with 1 quality wins is going to be in.


At 12. We are like 2-3 results away from 11-1 Indiana being left out.
At 8, 11-1 Indiana would be out.

11-1 Indiana needs to be in, in my opinion. Or the playoff has the same problems as the 4 team playoff.

All nine conference champs SHOULD have an autobid. Which is why I would do a 16 team playoff. Nine champs, seven at-large. Yes, that means Jax State and Ohio U get in under this scenario.
No, I don't care if they get blown out in the first run. They did everything they needed to do - they deserve a shot. I will never not think this.