Why did Wisconsin get Las Vegas over us???

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This is the one that makes no F'ing sense any way you slice it.

Two states literally next to each other. Far more flights from MSP to Las Vegas than any Wisc airport (granted, fine, easy to drive down to OHare for a lot of Wisc population).

New bowl, so neither team has been there before.

Same record.

We beat them head-to-head.


What am I missing???????????
 
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Fans/schools cannot take this personally, because surely the bowl$ are just looking at bottom lines. In any bowl selection outside of the playoff/NY6, the conference record and overall record don’t matter unless it is more than 2 games difference, and head to head means nothing or almost nothing.
 

It makes complete sense. wisconsin travels much better than we do. I was at Gopher at UNLV game a few years back, literally no less than 10 people throughout the weekend told me "you have a lot of fans here but we've never had as many fans in town for college football than when wisconsin was here." Yes, we had a lot of fans at J1 bowls, but they have more and they'll have a lot more in Vegas than we would.
 




El Amin Fan said:
It makes complete sense. wisconsin travels much better than we do. I was at Gopher at UNLV game a few years back, literally no less than 10 people throughout the weekend told me "you have a lot of fans here but we've never had as many fans in town for college football than when wisconsin was here." Yes, we had a lot of fans at J1 bowls, but they have more and they'll have a lot more in Vegas than we would.
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Self-fulfilling prophecy. Keep sending MN to low tier bowls in expensive locales against lackluster opponents and then let the conference and bowl committees complain about how MN doesn't travel. Love the logic used by the higher ups. I went to the both the Citrus and Outback Bowls and heard all week about how MN fans had taken over both towns.
 

El Amin Fan said:
It makes complete sense. wisconsin travels much better than we do. I was at Gopher at UNLV game a few years back, literally no less than 10 people throughout the weekend told me "you have a lot of fans here but we've never had as many fans in town for college football than when wisconsin was here." Yes, we had a lot of fans at J1 bowls, but they have more and they'll have a lot more in Vegas than we would.
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We were out there for that game too. Listened to a local sports talk station on drive from Luxor to South Point the next morning. Caller after caller complained about Gopher Fans. "The cheapest people ever! They were looking for $2 tables. They were horrible tippers if they tipped at all! I'm a valet. Was lucky to get $2 when I brought their car!"

Most said to never have the Gophers come out to play here again!

Odd thing was a couple of them said the only people who were as bad as tippers were Badger fans. ;)
 

Because the Strib is run by Wisconsin grads? Oh wait, that is a different awful talking point of yours!
 

Iceland12 said:
We were out there for that game too. Listened to a local sports talk station on drive from Luxor to South Point the next morning. Caller after caller complained about Gopher Fans. "The cheapest people ever! They were looking for $2 tables. They were horrible tippers if they tipped at all! I'm a valet. Was lucky to get $2 when I brought their car!"

Most said to never have the Gophers come out to play here again!

Odd thing was a couple of them said the only people who were as bad as tippers were Badger fans. ;)
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If you can afford to go out, tip WELL. If you can't afford to tip well, drink/eat in your hotel room or at home.
 



KoolAid said:
Wisconsin fans travel better
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Isn’t this kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy?

“X team travels better than Y—let’s give them desirable Bowl A in destination City A.”

*X gets more fans than Y because it’s a better bowl and better destination*

“See? Told you they travel better. Take that into account next year.”

Repeat cycle again and again.
 









gopherjay said:
Not really. We smoked records for the BIG at the Citrus and Outback.
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Agreed, his Coyle passively just letting chips fall where they may got us passed over. He should be giving Kevin Warren the business as we speak. We got hosed any way you slice it.
 
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Gophers7NatTitlesBadgers0 said:
Why is Vegas better than Phoenix outside of gambling and overall debauchery!
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Cost of flights and hotels, rental cars all of it. Phoenix cost too damn much to fly too. That and the opponent. Our history of getting passed over stings every time it happens. Date of game and location blows to.
 

El Amin Fan said:
It makes complete sense. wisconsin travels much better than we do. I was at Gopher at UNLV game a few years back, literally no less than 10 people throughout the weekend told me "you have a lot of fans here but we've never had as many fans in town for college football than when wisconsin was here." Yes, we had a lot of fans at J1 bowls, but they have more and they'll have a lot more in Vegas than we would.
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Maybe back then. Did 2019 to Fresno and Nwestern, great gopher crowds. Went to Colorado and Nwestern this year...great gopher crowds. Citrus, Holiday, Outback all had great gophers crowds.
 




MGGopher said:
Self-fulfilling prophecy. Keep sending MN to low tier bowls in expensive locales against lackluster opponents and then let the conference and bowl committees complain about how MN doesn't travel. Love the logic used by the higher ups. I went to the both the Citrus and Outback Bowls and heard all week about how MN fans had taken over both towns.
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Minnesota should start by filling their home stadium every week to change the rhetoric on their level of fan support. When you don’t do that in one of the smallest stadiums in P5, hard to make an argument you support the program.
 
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gopherdudepart2 said:
Agreed, his Coyle passively just letting chips fall where they may got us passed over. He should be giving Kevin Warren the business as we speak. We got hosed any way you slice it.
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I would be interested to know what Coyle had to say.
 

stocker08 said:
I would be interested to know what Coyle had to say.
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Sadly we're unlikely to ever know how this went down or how anyone connected to the program feels. Nobody is gonna say anything except how happy they are to be headed to Phoenix. If anybody has an ACTUAL source (not the one that had me looking at airfare to Tampa this morning), I'd be seriously curious on the details here. All I'm seeing on social media is pi$$ and vinegar from fans, not surprisingly.
 

IMHO...Wisc gets picked over Minn because:
1) Wisc has the reputation of a perennially successful football program. Until Minn can beat the Wisconsins and Iowas on at least a somewhat consistant basis, compete in the conference championship game, and be ranked in at least the top 25 annually, Wisc will most assuredly be viewd as the better team to invite.

2) Wisconsin travels to Las Vegas very well. It is a red out weekend in the hotels and casinos. I was a Las Vegas casino dealer for 29 years and ALWAYS did extremely well whenever Wisc came to town. As much as I can't stand the Skunks, I always looked forward to their Vegas weekends.
 

Wisconsinites are likely easier to swindle out of their money, that's why
 

gopherdudepart2 said:
Agreed, his Coyle passively just letting chips fall where they may got us passed over. He should be giving Kevin Warren the business as we speak. We got hosed any way you slice it.
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Don't expect much from Coyle and you will never be disappointed.
 

Bowls are picked differently in 2021 and there are rules on how often teams can go. It started over last year with a new cycle. Next year will be different. Vegas is new and wanted Wisconsin. I believe as long as records are within a game teams can be swapped. Win a 9th game and we’re not in this situation.
 

MGGopher said:
Self-fulfilling prophecy. Keep sending MN to low tier bowls in expensive locales against lackluster opponents and then let the conference and bowl committees complain about how MN doesn't travel. Love the logic used by the higher ups. I went to the both the Citrus and Outback Bowls and heard all week about how MN fans had taken over both towns.
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Exactly
 

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