Twins/Vikings/Wild/Wolves Championship appearance drought tracker

Life is often an exercise in overcoming disappointment, forcing oneself to get out of bed every morning despite the Sisyphusean experience we may endure in our personal, work, or social lives.

I for one appreciate the Minnesota sports teams preparing me for life as an adult (I was a sophomore in college when the Twins won the '91 WS) and building the will to advance through life's most trying and turbulent times.
I agree but it depends on how old you are. In my first 5 year or so following MN sports, the Twins won the World Series twice, Gopher basketball made the Sweet 16 twice, the North Stars made the Stanley Cup finals and the Vikings came a play away from the Super Bowl.

It was pretty good. And then it just stopped for the most part. Very misleading. At least those a few years younger only know MN sports misery.
 

Yall old people that got to see the world series titles can't complain.

I was two years old in 1991. Anyone my age and younger hasn't even seen a title appearance in Loserville.
 

I agree but it depends on how old you are. In my first 5 year or so following MN sports, the Twins won the World Series twice, Gopher basketball made the Sweet 16 twice, the North Stars made the Stanley Cup finals and the Vikings came a play away from the Super Bowl.

It was pretty good. And then it just stopped for the most part. Very misleading. At least those a few years younger only know MN sports misery.
Well, the Vikings were a play and a PAT away from tying the game that decided who went to the Super Bowl.
 

Well, the Vikings were a play and a PAT away from tying the game that decided who went to the Super Bowl.
True. They probably would have missed the extra point in true Minnesota Sports fashion.
 

Yall old people that got to see the world series titles can't complain.

I was two years old in 1991. Anyone my age and younger hasn't even seen a title appearance in Loserville.
Good thing you missed the '89 Minnesota-Harvard hockey game at the St Paul Civic Center.

That one left a mark.
 


Taking a more mature look at this, it was the 2006 Twins that brought home a valuable life lesson for me. Remember that squad? Didn't stay above .500 until June 22. On August 7, they were 10.5 games out of first place and in third place; when September arrived, they were 6 games back and still in third place. They then caught even more fire and propelled themselves into first place following Game 162. Morneau won the MVP, Santana was the Cy Young winner and Mauer had the highest WAR on the team. The "Piranhas" were established that season, Francisco Liriano was an electric rookie (whose season ended too soon) and Mike Redmond was running around the clubhouse naked. It was a magical regular season that was followed by a 3-0 trouncing in the divisional series to the Athletics.

On a personal note, my life wasn't at an apex that summer-I was in my 30's, still frustratingly single, money was tight, and I was living in a basement apartment that mercifully had cheap rent and free cable/internet. The Twins carried me through that summer--I was working two jobs (where the conversation centered on the Twins' run) and dashing home to catch the games. They buoyed my spirits and allowed me to forget/ignore the other, less satisfactory aspects of my life. I was getting ready to attend the parade fifteen years after the last one.

And then they got blitzed by the Athletics--it happened so fast, it was stunning. But, when I came to, I decided it didn't diminish that summer. It was a great summer, exciting, fun and provided excitement that otherwise would have been a big vacant space. It was a lesson for me in savoring the joy and not letting the disappointment permeate too deep or for too long. I've went back to this touchpoint a fair number of times as a reminder on how to approach life.

And as I was thinking this post out, I also recognized what howeda and bonin have stated--I am able to look at this through the perspective and memories of a really successful stretch for MN sports--my HS and college years included all of what howeda's already laid out, plus we got a NBA franchise in that timespan. So, perhaps I'm coming off as an a-hole a bit, but man, if these MN sports teams have taught me anything. . .grab those moments of joy, however fleeting--the incredible JJ catch against the Bills, the Zach Puchtel game vs. Indiana, the Duke's Mayo dousing of Fleck--because waiting on the big prize will send you to the therapist's couch, at best.
 
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Taking a more mature look at this, it was the 2006 Twins that brought home a valuable life lesson for me. Remember that squad? Didn't stay above .500 until June 22. On August 7, they were 10.5 games out of first place and in third place; when September arrived, they were 6 games back and still in third place. They then caught even more fire and propelled themselves into first place following Game 162. Morneau won the MVP, Santana was the Cy Young winner and Mauer had the highest WAR on the team. The "Piranhas" were established that season, Francisco Liriano was an electric rookie (whose season ended too soon) and Mike Redmond was running around the clubhouse naked. It was a magical regular season that was followed by a 3-0 trouncing in the divisional series to the Athletics.

On a personal note, my life wasn't at an apex that summer-I was in my 30's, still frustratingly single, money was tight, and I was living in a basement apartment that mercifully had cheap rent and free cable/internet. The Twins carried me through that summer--I was working two jobs (where the conversation centered on the Twins' run) and dashing home to catch the games. They buoyed my spirits and allowed me to forget/ignore the other, less satisfactory aspects of my life. I was getting ready to attend the parade fifteen years after the last one.

And then they got blitzed by the Athletics--it happened so fast, it was stunning. But, when I came to, I decided it didn't diminish that summer. It was a great summer, exciting, fun and provided excitement that otherwise would have been a big vacant space. It was a lesson for me in savoring the joy and not letting the disappointment permeate too deep or for too long. I've went back to this touchpoint a fair number of times as a reminder on how to approach life.

And as I was thinking this post out, I also recognized what howeda and bonin have stated--I am able to look at this through the perspective and memories of a really successful stretch for MN sports--my HS and college years included all of what howeda's already laid out, plus we got a NBA franchise in that timespan. So, perhaps I'm coming off as an a-hole a bit, but man, if these MN sports teams have taught me anything. . .grab those moments of joy, however fleeting--the incredible JJ catch against the Bills, the Zach Puchtel game vs. Indiana, the Duke's Mayo dousing of Fleck--because waiting on the big prize will send you to the therapist's couch, at best.
For certain, whether your teams win championships have almost nothing to do with living a happy and productive life. You can live your best life if your teams don't win championships. You can also live your best life if your teams DO win championships. Might as well win championships.

All I know is that the world championships the Twins won and the conference championship the Gopher basketball team won in 1997 are among the fondest experiences in my memory. I wouldn't want to have gone without those experiences. If life is about having experiences, then these things are important. Shared experiences like those are part of what knits a community together and makes life interesting.
 
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Yall old people that got to see the world series titles can't complain.

I was two years old in 1991. Anyone my age and younger hasn't even seen a title appearance in Loserville.
Gee I feel a little better now. I was 29 in '91 and I'll never forget game 7 as I was on the road for work
 



I know they only have two pro sports teams, so they can't keep pace with Minnesota in terms of this thread.

However .... may I present to you the possible best "Minnesota light" pro town:

Buffalo.


Bills -- have never won a Super Bowl, are 0-4 like the Vikings. Last Super Bowl appearance in 1993 season. They were AFL champs in 1964 and 65.

Sabers -- have never won a Stanley Cup, are 0-3. Last appearance in 1998-99 season.


Are there any "better" (worse) than that, with at least two pro teams in the market?
 

I know they only have two pro sports teams, so they can't keep pace with Minnesota in terms of this thread.

However .... may I present to you the possible best "Minnesota light" pro town:

Buffalo.


Bills -- have never won a Super Bowl, are 0-4 like the Vikings. Last Super Bowl appearance in 1993 season. They were AFL champs in 1964 and 65.

Sabers -- have never won a Stanley Cup, are 0-3. Last appearance in 1998-99 season.


Are there any "better" (worse) than that, with at least two pro teams in the market?
They also lost their NBA franchise (Braves) to San Diego/LA (Clippers) when the owners of the Braves and Celtics swapped franchises, to allow the move to occur (the Celtics' owner wanted to move his franchise to California and there was no way that was happening with the Celts).

At least we eventually got our NBA team back, Buffalo never has.

Other cities that can stake a claim for long-suffering:
Seattle
Cleveland
Cincinnati

And actually, the long term forecast would seem most bleak for Cincy fans--but at this stage, no one's holding a light to the MN fans.
 

This streak only seems to be getting stronger as it goes. There were a couple really close calls with the Vikings in 1998 and 2009, but it hasn't seriously been threatened in over 15 years. The Wolves never got within one game of advancing to the finals in either 2004 or last year, and they seem to have backslid down the mountain now. This thing feels safe for a while.

One of these days I'm going to precisely compute it, but the randomized odds of this occurring are now approaching 3,000 to 1.

After you calculate the odds on none of the Minnesota Teams not making it to a Championship, the next one to figure out is the entire country of Canada not hoisting the Stanley Cup.

Started roughly the same time as Montreal last won in 1993. There's currently 7 Canadian franchises: Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa, Winnipeg, Calgary, Edmonton & Vancouver.

That's pretty staggering.

The county has won both a World Series & NBA Championship more recently, both Toronto (Blue Jays & Raptors).
 
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They also lost their NBA franchise (Braves) to San Diego/LA (Clippers) when the owners of the Braves and Celtics swapped franchises, to allow the move to occur (the Celtics' owner wanted to move his franchise to California and there was no way that was happening with the Celts).

At least we eventually got our NBA team back, Buffalo never has.

Other cities that can stake a claim for long-suffering:
Seattle
Cleveland
Cincinnati

And actually, the long term forecast would seem most bleak for Cincy fans--but at this stage, no one's holding a light to the MN fans.

San Diego.

Also, Seahawks won 10 years ago. Seattle's not even scratching the surface for long suffering yet.
 



After you calculate the odds on none of the Minnesota Teams not making it to a Championship, the next one to figure out is the entire country of Canada not hoisting the Stanley Cup.

Started roughly the same time as Montreal last won in 1993. There's currently 7 Canadian franchises: Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa, Winnipeg, Calgary, Edmonton & Vancouver.

That's pretty staggering.

The county has won both a World Series & NBA Championship more recently, both Toronto (Blue Jays & Raptors).
Since Montreal's win, Canada is 0-7 in the Finals.

In the 30 years prior to the Habs last Cup, they won it 12 times just themselves.
 
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San Diego.

Also, Seahawks won 10 years ago. Seattle's not even scratching the surface for long suffering yet.
They got special consideration for the loss of the Sonics—still seems so egregious that they were allowed to move out of Seattle (not unlike the North Stars 🫤)
 

I dig some digging on the country of Canada not being able drink collectively from Lord Stanley's Cup since Montreal did it in 1993 and have gone 0-7 combined in the Finals.

They have had 9 different franchises make the NHL Playoffs.

In older to avoid further insult to injury, I did not count the Oilers & Canadians losing in the 2020 Bubble Qualifying Round, which was modified due to Covid-19. Here's how many times each Qualified as one of the Round of 16 Teams for the NHL Post-Season:

1 - Nordiques (prior to moving to Denver)
1 - (Old) Jets (prior to moving to Phoenix, now in Salt Lake City)
7 - (New) Jets (after moving from Atlanta)
12 - Oilers
13 - Flames
16 - Canucks
16 - Senators
17 - Maple Leafs
17 - Canadians
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100 Total

Wow.
 
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They also lost their NBA franchise (Braves) to San Diego/LA (Clippers) when the owners of the Braves and Celtics swapped franchises, to allow the move to occur (the Celtics' owner wanted to move his franchise to California and there was no way that was happening with the Celts).

At least we eventually got our NBA team back, Buffalo never has.

Other cities that can stake a claim for long-suffering:
Seattle
Cleveland
Cincinnati

And actually, the long term forecast would seem most bleak for Cincy fans--but at this stage, no one's holding a light to the MN fans.
You said it. No one's holding a light to us Minny fans. No one
 

After you calculate the odds on none of the Minnesota Teams not making it to a Championship, the next one to figure out is the entire country of Canada not hoisting the Stanley Cup.

Started roughly the same time as Montreal last won in 1993. There's currently 7 Canadian franchises: Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa, Winnipeg, Calgary, Edmonton & Vancouver.

That's pretty staggering.

The county has won both a World Series & NBA Championship more recently, both Toronto (Blue Jays & Raptors).
That is crazy.
 

I dig some digging on the country of Canada not being able drink collectively from Lord Stanley's Cup since Montreal did it in 1993 and have gone 0-7 combined in the Finals.

They have had 9 different franchises make the NHL Playoffs.

In older to avoid further insult to injury, I did not count the Oilers & Canadians losing in the 2020 Bubble Qualifying Round, which was modified due to Covid-19. Here's how many times each Qualified as one of the Round of 16 Teams for the NHL Post-Season:

1 - Nordiques (prior to moving to Denver)
1 - (Old) Jets (prior to moving to Phoenix, now in Salt Lake City)
7 - (New) Jets (after moving from Atlanta)
12 - Oilers
13 - Flames
16 - Canucks
16 - Senators
17 - Maple Leafs
17 - Canadians
---
100 Total

Wow.
Oh Canada.
 

San Diego.

Also, Seahawks won 10 years ago. Seattle's not even scratching the surface for long suffering yet.
Good one! I didn't think of them since they only have one pro team now, but obviously had the Chargers for some time.

Padres -- 0-2 lifetime in the WS, last made it in 1998 (also in 1984)
Chargers in SD 1961 - 2016 -- 0-1 in the Super Bowl in 1994 (won AFL Championship in 1963)
(SD Clippers 1978-1984 never did much)
 

We do have four pro franchises, and you can arbitrarily call those four leagues the "big four" but that is still a somewhat arbitrary distinction, with how small the TV ratings & revenues are for NHL and MLB compared to NFL.

If the Wild win a championship, great for them, but for me personally I won't feel any more satisfied than if MN United win a championship. I don't care in the slightest about hockey. (Sorry, not sorry)

I used to be a fervent Twins fan, decades ago. But now, I didn't even tune into the opening playoff series two seasons ago. Haven't been to Target Field even for a once a summer game in a few years (trying to think if I've even been since covid).


It's mostly Vikings for me. I did hop onboard the T-Wolves bandwagon last year, and that was fun.
 

They got special consideration for the loss of the Sonics—still seems so egregious that they were allowed to move out of Seattle (not unlike the North Stars 🫤)
I'd trade the Timberwolves for a Lombardi Trophy.

I'd have to deliberate more on trading the Woofies for an NFC Championship, though it would put this thread to rest.
 

I'd trade the Timberwolves for a Lombardi Trophy.

I'd have to deliberate more on trading the Woofies for an NFC Championship, though it would put this thread to rest.
I'd trade the t pups for a first round series win for the Wild
 


I agree but it depends on how old you are. In my first 5 year or so following MN sports, the Twins won the World Series twice, Gopher basketball made the Sweet 16 twice, the North Stars made the Stanley Cup finals and the Vikings came a play away from the Super Bowl.

It was pretty good. And then it just stopped for the most part. Very misleading. At least those a few years younger only know MN sports misery.
I've been meaning to post on an adjacent topic, so here goes. I sometimes wonder whether it was a good idea to enroll at Minnesota (in 1984) and subject myself to the sports misery I've endured as a Gopher alum. But in retrospect, it wasn't such a crazy move. At the time I started at Morris (with intent to transfer to the Twin Cities after two years)...
  • The basketball team had won the Big Ten two years previous and had been killing it on the recruiting trail, including McDonalds All-American Kevin Smith
  • Lou Holtz was named the head coach of the football team, a situation that looked like sure-fire conference title contention before too long
  • Brad Buetow was capably coaching the hockey team, and it was just a matter of time before they won another national title
Before I even transferred from Morris, Holtz had quit, the Madison scandal occurred, and Beutow was fired.
 

I'd trade the Timberwolves for a Lombardi Trophy.

I'd have to deliberate more on trading the Woofies for an NFC Championship, though it would put this thread to rest.
Idea: trade them to KC, in return for KC giving us some of their NFL mojo! :D

They'd be closer to Western rivals Denver, OKC, and Dallas.
 




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