Twins/Vikings/Wild/Wolves Championship appearance drought tracker

[From the Parkinglot]

The women’s hockey team can win a championship still. They only lost at home in double overtime tonight so I’m sure there will be no hang over for the next game.

 

[TRF Guy]

The women’s hockey team can win a championship still. They only lost at home in double overtime tonight so I’m sure there will be no hang over for the next game.

Man did they have their chances to win that thing though. I knew damn well their goal would be called off for goalie interference. Told the wife now watch Boston score here soon. 2 minutes later boom. Game over

 

[GophersInIowa]

Assuming the Wolves don't make a historic comeback, this will be 8 losses without a win for these 4 teams in their conference/league finals since this streak began.

Vikings 0-4
Wolves 0-2
Wild 0-1
Twins 0-1

 

[Bad Gopher]

Assuming the Wolves don't make a historic comeback, this will be 8 losses without a win for these 4 teams in their conference/league finals since this streak began.

Vikings 0-4
Wolves 0-2
Wild 0-1
Twins 0-1

Just that in itself is remarkable. Assuming a roughly 50/50 chance of winning such a game, that's upwards of 250-to-1 randomized odds against that happening.

 

[Slim Tubby]

Just that in itself is remarkable. Assuming a roughly 50/50 chance of winning such a game, that's upwards of 250-to-1 randomized odds against that happening.

 

[Spaulding!No!]

Hanif Abdurraqib is super sad about the wolves.

 

[BleedGopher]

Go Gophers!!

 

[Ope3]

Assuming the Wolves don't make a historic comeback, this will be 8 losses without a win for these 4 teams in their conference/league finals since this streak began.

Vikings 0-4
Wolves 0-2
Wild 0-1
Twins 0-1

Just that in itself is remarkable. Assuming a roughly 50/50 chance of winning such a game, that's upwards of 250-to-1 randomized odds against that happening.

Adding to the improbability is that all 4 of the Series (+ '98 Vikes) the Wolves, Wild & Twins had Home Court/Ice/Field advantage.

Only the Twins even had a series lead, taking G1 in 2002 against the Angels.

 

[Nokomis]

Let's just retire this thread. In my mind, the pro championship drought is now zero.

 

[GophersInIowa]

Let's just retire this thread. In my mind, the pro championship drought is now zero.

That's fine for you but the majority of sports fans in MN care significantly more about the big 4. It's cool that the Lynx had their run and the women's hockey team won it all. They're not even close to the same level though to most people. Not to take away from the women's hockey team but they won a league with 6 teams in it.

 

[Ope3]

Back to the streak, I saw on Twitter that if you include the NJ teams as part of NYC Metro Area, that they are at 110 combined seasons and growing fast given how many teams they have. Crazy to think that's true for NY market, but I didn't look into it enough to verify.

Go Gophers!!

Even though we established that the 110 Streak Number referred to an actual Title drought in NY-NJ, not just a Championship appearance, with the Rangers getting bounced tonight, the 5 NBA-NHL franchises made up some solid ground on the TC teams.

Rather impressive for Florida to get to the Stanley Cup Final back-to-back.

 

[Bad Gopher]

This streak has proven to be formidable. As God is my witness, I thought this thing was in the grave once the Wolves got past Denver, but the streak has been there before and knew what to do. It has had an answer for everything.

Besides the 0-8 record in semifinal rounds, another remarkable thing is how many good-to-great teams there have been in this period. The '98 Vikings were as good as or even better than the Vikes' Super Bowl teams. The '04 Wolves were the #1 seed. The '06 Twins were as talented as either of the champions in '87 and '91 but got swept out of the first round (while the team they beat out for the division title advanced to the World Series; how's that for indignity?!).

With the Wolves seemingly built for multiyear success (top players under contract or option for multiple years), they might end up making multiple runs at this streak. Or not. As Jerry Burns said after the Vikings lost to the Redskins in the NFC title game, it's not like they line you up at the goal line next year to run that play again late in the 4th quarter for the conference title. You have to earn your way back to that opportunity. Burns and his subsequent teams never did.

 

[Ope3]

Reusse breaks down the 4 teams chances of breaking through with a title by the end of the decade:

Reusse: Slim chances for a big-four championship here this decade

The Twin Cities have been waiting since 1991 for our next massive celebration for a major league men’s franchise, and it’s hard to picture that drought ending any time soon.

www.startribune.com

 

[Ope3]

I'm really happy for those long suffering Boston sports fans. It had been over half a decade since any of their 4 major sports franchises have hoisted a Championship banner (Patriots/2018 season).

There were going to be some kindergarten kids that had never watched any of their teams win it all. Thanks to the Celtics, losers no more.

 

[Bad Gopher]

I'm really happy for those long suffering Boston sports fans. It had been over half a decade since any of their 4 major sports franchises have hoisted a Championship banner (Patriots/2018 season).

There were going to be some kindergarten kids that had never watched any of their teams win it all. Thanks to the Celtics, losers no more.

The long national nightmare is indeed over.

 

[GophersInIowa]

I'm really happy for those long suffering Boston sports fans. It had been over half a decade since any of their 4 major sports franchises have hoisted a Championship banner (Patriots/2018 season).

There were going to be some kindergarten kids that had never watched any of their teams win it all. Thanks to the Celtics, losers no more.

 

[Nokomis]

That's fine for you but the majority of sports fans in MN care significantly more about the big 4. It's cool that the Lynx had their run and the women's hockey team won it all. They're not even close to the same level though to most people. Not to take away from the women's hockey team but they won a league with 6 teams in it.

The six team thing doesn't make much sense. I mean...do the Black Hawks not count their championships as part of the Original Six? The Original Six listed like 20 years, right? Also, the Big 4 is fading. I expect MLS will soon surpass the NHL in popularity, if not already.

 

[GophersInIowa]

The six team thing doesn't make much sense. I mean...do the Black Hawks not count their championships as part of the Original Six? The Original Six listed like 20 years, right? Also, the Big 4 is fading. I expect MLS will soon surpass the NHL in popularity, if not already.

I didn't say it shouldn't count. Would you agree that winning a league with 30 teams is tougher to do that winning a league with 6 teams?

Edit: What specifically is used to determine popularity? I'm going to guess the MLS is not overtaking the NHL in Minnesota at least anytime soon. They're both niche leagues. My guess if you asked MN sports fans who'd they'd rather win a championship, it would be the Wild by a lot.

 

[Ope3]

I didn't say it shouldn't count. Would you agree that winning a league with 30 teams is tougher to do that winning a league with 6 teams?

Edit: What specifically is used to determine popularity? I'm going to guess the MLS is not overtaking the NHL in Minnesota at least anytime soon. They're both niche leagues. My guess if you asked MN sports fans who'd they'd rather win a championship, it would be the Wild by a lot.

The six team thing doesn't make much sense. I mean...do the Black Hawks not count their championships as part of the Original Six? The Original Six listed like 20 years, right? Also, the Big 4 is fading. I expect MLS will soon surpass the NHL in popularity, if not already.

How many soccer leagues in the world are superior in talent/over all play than the MLS? Is it even top 10?

Because of that alone, I personally would never equate even remotely an MLS Championship to a Stanley Cup victory.

 

[TRF Guy]

How many soccer leagues in the world are superior in talent/over all play than the MLS? Is it even top 10?

Because of that alone, I personally would never equate even remotely an MLS Championship to a Stanley Cup victory.

Totally agree. The NHL has the best players in the world in it. MLS not even close

 

[Rex]

NFL Network has been showing classic games, Vikings vs Raiders & Vikings vs Steelers in SBs were last week. Currently watching (till 11:30am) Vikings vs Dolphins. Fun to relive Tarkington, Foreman, Purple People Eaters & the simplicity of the early Super Bowls. I was a 10th grader thru college frosh during this time, hard to believe we haven't been back. Probably too early to start drinking on a Monday morning.

 

[BleedGopher]

NFL Network has been showing classic games, Vikings vs Raiders & Vikings vs Steelers in SBs were last week. Currently watching (till 11:30am) Vikings vs Dolphins. Fun to relive Tarkington, Foreman, Purple People Eaters & the simplicity of the early Super Bowls. I was a 10th grader thru college frosh during this time, hard to believe we haven't been back. Probably too early to start drinking on a Monday morning.

Too soon. All of this, just too soon.

Skol Vikes!!

 

[Nokomis]

I didn't say it shouldn't count. Would you agree that winning a league with 30 teams is tougher to do that winning a league with 6 teams?

Edit: What specifically is used to determine popularity? I'm going to guess the MLS is not overtaking the NHL in Minnesota at least anytime soon. They're both niche leagues. My guess if you asked MN sports fans who'd they'd rather win a championship, it would be the Wild by a lot.

How many soccer leagues in the world are superior in talent/over all play than the MLS? Is it even top 10?

Because of that alone, I personally would never equate even remotely an MLS Championship to a Stanley Cup victory.

My point is: why continue to have these arbitrary qualifiers? The NFL far outpaces them all in popularity. So why some, and not others? The MN professional sports championship drought is zero.

 

[Ope3]

My point is: why continue to have these arbitrary qualifiers? The NFL far outpaces them all in popularity. So why some, and not others? The MN professional sports championship drought is zero.

The thread title clearly indicates which current Minnesota Pro franchises/leagues this streak applies to, thus there is no need for any "arbitrary qualifiers."

 

[GophersInIowa]

My point is: why continue to have these arbitrary qualifiers? The NFL far outpaces them all in popularity. So why some, and not others? The MN professional sports championship drought is zero.

By all means then, start a different thread that has the number at zero. I don't care. This was based on my preferences. I don't care about any of those other leagues.

 

[Ski U Mah Gopher]

The last time the 49ers won a game in Minnesota, the drought was 3.

 

[Gopher_In_NYC]

I didn't say it shouldn't count. Would you agree that winning a league with 30 teams is tougher to do that winning a league with 6 teams?

Edit: What specifically is used to determine popularity? I'm going to guess the MLS is not overtaking the NHL in Minnesota at least anytime soon. They're both niche leagues. My guess if you asked MN sports fans who'd they'd rather win a championship, it would be the Wild by a lot.

MN has an MLS team?

Didn’t know and didn’t care - most likely response by most sports fans.

 

[Ope3]

The last time the 49ers won a game in Minnesota, the drought was 3.

Hearing the stat San Francisco has not won here since 1992 often during the game (on TV & the 49ers Radio Broadcast) spurred me to take look at the overall rivalry.

Interesting that the Total Series is now Tied 25-25-1. That includes the Post-season in which San Fran dominates, 1-5. Since the afternoon that AC ran roughshod in Candlestick, the 49ers have won the last 4 ending the Vikings Super Bowl hopes.

In that same time span that San Francisco has not won in Minneapolis, the Vikings have only have 1 victory in the Bay Area (2007). They have yet to win a game in Santa Clara (0-3).

All Matchups, Minnesota Vikings vs. San Francisco 49ers | Pro-Football-Reference.com

All Matchups, Minnesota Vikings vs. San Francisco 49ers

www.pro-football-reference.com

 

[Ope3]

The Twins are eyeing the tote board by the end of September.

 

[Gophers1992]

Adding to the improbability is that all 4 of the Series (+ '98 Vikes) the Wolves, Wild & Twins had Home Court/Ice/Field advantage.

Only the Twins even had a series lead, taking G1 in 2002 against the Angels.

There are 3 times in my sports fandom where I have thought "ok this is finally going to happen" and had it fly back in my face.

The first is after game 1 in 2002 against the Angels
The second is Tanner Morgan and Rashod Bateman hitting that 50 yard TD early against Wisconsin.
And the third is 2023 going up 2-0 against Quinnipiac.