Does Florida worry about the risk of getting worse when they switch it up? UCLA? Florida State? Colorado? North Carolina?
It’s a game. I’m not attacking you as a person. But this kind of thinking is what makes “Losers” in athletics. The oh well yeah you beat us but it’s because you take it too seriously shit is a culture killer in sports.
Wisconsin did too. Why doesn’t Iowa fire Ferentz? Like I said, it’s a lot easier to move on from a coach that isn’t winning at all vs one that isn’t winning enough.
This is a systemic University of Minnesota problem, my post isn't directed at you directly, but I get a kick out out of all this fire the coach talk, folks you heard it here folks we accept mediocrity, stomp your feet, throw up your hands up folks, that like to say Minnesota just accepts mediocre we are always embarrassed. Truth of the matter is the University of Minnesota as an institution in athletics has always under invested in facilities, marketing, alumni engagement, fans, coaching all of it, recruiting, gameday experience. Get a little success in a sport though and we are world beaters. Like a single coach is the savior of the entire athletic program. We demand greatness in football on one of the lowest budgets for NIL and coaching staffs in the Big 10 conference, with a barely filled stadium, a success rate of a back of the pack to mediocre, middling conference team for 40 plus years that is just happy to collect the TV money and bowl revenue from the conference. Our alumni base in football is cheap. Minnesota as a University has never invested what Iowa or Wisconsin does in football and basketball, never. Is some of it chicken and egg yes due to lack of success yes, but the U of M as an institution is the Pohlad ownership group of the Minnesota Twins, in the Big 10 conference in football and basketball, have been for 40 years. Low rent budgets, high ticket prices, expect more but always pay far less to those that develop success. This isn't to defend Fleck either, he is well compensated just like Glen Mason was, Fleck is well paid. This University as an institution pretends to care about being good at athletics, but then we have the dumpy Williams arena as a basketball home that is symbolic of neglect by the U. One of the smaller stadiums in football with a small fan base that was all too happy to move to the Dome and just get by. I don't care what coaches you get here, the University Minnesota administration, are the Twins Pohlads from MLB in Big 10 athletics. Cheap as cheap does in investment. The University expects and demand greatness with less investment then other Big 10 institutions. This is a University of Minnesota problem and it runs as deep as Pohlad problem as the Twins, skimp and skate by on the cheap, and be glad they get Big 10 revenue sharing, and live off Ohio State and Michigans glory in athletics.
Compare Iowa bowl games the last 10 years to ours.
I think a lot of this is gobblygook.
So you’d be satisfied with that ceiling? What if I told you Iowa has won 11 more games than Minnesota has since Fleck has been here? And five of those wins were in Fleck's first two years. If you want to make the playoffs and be a conference title contender consistently then sure chase the next Cignetti, I think it’s a pipe dream personally, but if just a smaller step up to Iowa is your goal then I think Fleck is a much safer bet to eventually get there with help from coordinators versus chasing a new HC.
I didn’t say anything about ceiling lineup, the ball games year to year and which would you prefer?
100% agree
Why do you have a right to expect 9 or 10 win seasons, in the new Big Ten, going forward like that can be a regular thing for a program like Minnesota?
fleck is 20-4 in regular season non conference games.
This is a huge issue, and we discuss it quite a bit on the Minnesota High School Football thread. I'll reiterate it here because not everyone reads that thread.
We're going to end up either 7-5 or 8-4, depending on the game at Wrigley. Obviously there are no guarantees in life but we should continue winning at home, where we've won all year, against Mich St and Wisconsin. We'll lose at Oregon.
There needs to be year round, pads off, training and "competition" somehow for football.
It exists in other states, but I'm not sure how popular it would be here. I mean, we do have 7 on 7 leagues, but for the most part, they're inconsistent and poorly run, at least from what I've seen.
Honestly the structure of Mn high school
Could you elaborate? Is it the too many classes? The no-cut teams?
Like 6a is closed circuit so 6-10 of the 32 largest schools in the state are in a cycle of losing because they can’t play any teams 33-50.
Hey, I'm just bored with Fleck.
I'm bored with your posts.
I guess we've been calling bad plays since the 60s under many coaches.
Yes. The key is recruiting. Not easy.
Not that I need to tell you or anyone this, but Roseville has a lot of non-football playing minorities in its large enrollment.
That's fine for me. Just recruit and sign the best player available for the position...doesn't have to be from MN. Using hockey as an excuse for why Gophs can't recruit better is a red herring IMHO.
OK, but as soon as it's a player from a state outside the north central region of the country .... why would they come to Minnesota? When they have to drive/fly past 10-15 Big Ten/P4 schools to get here?
