This is a fireable offense

Previous Indiana coach was a bit less successful than Fleck, kind of easy to switch it up when you aren’t risking getting worse.
Does Florida worry about the risk of getting worse when they switch it up? UCLA? Florida State? Colorado? North Carolina?

They understand risk and work with it.
 


If PJ had any modicum of self-respect, he’d refund 1/12 of his salary to the U for the fact that he obviously didn’t work this week leading up to the game.
 

Yeah this whole high quality of life thing is a real left turn - apologies for our priorities. I was just thinking i should make some obese kids read a bible before enjoying Ole Miss wining an SEC game. Can’t wait to move to Oxford!
It’s a game. I’m not attacking you as a person. But this kind of thinking is what makes “Losers” in athletics. The oh well yeah you beat us but it’s because you take it too seriously shit is a culture killer in sports.

Couple side notes:

1) The quality of a persons life is not based on criteria someone uses to create a list.

2) Whats wrong with reading the Bible?
 

Does Florida worry about the risk of getting worse when they switch it up? UCLA? Florida State? Colorado? North Carolina?

They understand risk and work with it.
Wisconsin did too. Why doesn’t Iowa fire Ferentz? Like I said, it’s a lot easier to move on from a coach that isn’t winning at all vs one that isn’t winning enough.
 


You heard it here folks: This is all we can expect.
This is a systemic University of Minnesota problem, my post isn't directed at you directly, but I get a kick out out of all this fire the coach talk, folks you heard it here folks we accept mediocrity, stomp your feet, throw up your hands up folks, that like to say Minnesota just accepts mediocre we are always embarrassed. Truth of the matter is the University of Minnesota as an institution in athletics has always under invested in facilities, marketing, alumni engagement, fans, coaching all of it, recruiting, gameday experience. Get a little success in a sport though and we are world beaters. Like a single coach is the savior of the entire athletic program. We demand greatness in football on one of the lowest budgets for NIL and coaching staffs in the Big 10 conference, with a barely filled stadium, a success rate of a back of the pack to mediocre, middling conference team for 40 plus years that is just happy to collect the TV money and bowl revenue from the conference. Our alumni base in football is cheap. Minnesota as a University has never invested what Iowa or Wisconsin does in football and basketball, never. Is some of it chicken and egg yes due to lack of success yes, but the U of M as an institution is the Pohlad ownership group of the Minnesota Twins, in the Big 10 conference in football and basketball, have been for 40 years. Low rent budgets, high ticket prices, expect more but always pay far less to those that develop success. This isn't to defend Fleck either, he is well compensated just like Glen Mason was, Fleck is well paid. This University as an institution pretends to care about being good at athletics, but then we have the dumpy Williams arena as a basketball home that is symbolic of neglect by the U. One of the smaller stadiums in football with a small fan base that was all too happy to move to the Dome and just get by. I don't care what coaches you get here, the University Minnesota administration, are the Twins Pohlads from MLB in Big 10 athletics. Cheap as cheap does in investment. The University expects and demand greatness with less investment then other Big 10 institutions. This is a University of Minnesota problem and it runs as deep as Pohlad problem as the Twins, skimp and skate by on the cheap, and be glad they get Big 10 revenue sharing, and live off Ohio State and Michigans glory in athletics.
 
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So, in summary: PJ isn’t great, but we likely can’t do any better so let’s not even try. Go Gophers!
 

This is a systemic University of Minnesota problem, my post isn't directed at you directly, but I get a kick out out of all this fire the coach talk, folks you heard it here folks we accept mediocrity, stomp your feet, throw up your hands up folks, that like to say Minnesota just accepts mediocre we are always embarrassed. Truth of the matter is the University of Minnesota as an institution in athletics has always under invested in facilities, marketing, alumni engagement, fans, coaching all of it, recruiting, gameday experience. Get a little success in a sport though and we are world beaters. Like a single coach is the savior of the entire athletic program. We demand greatness in football on one of the lowest budgets for NIL and coaching staffs in the Big 10 conference, with a barely filled stadium, a success rate of a back of the pack to mediocre, middling conference team for 40 plus years that is just happy to collect the TV money and bowl revenue from the conference. Our alumni base in football is cheap. Minnesota as a University has never invested what Iowa or Wisconsin does in football and basketball, never. Is some of it chicken and egg yes due to lack of success yes, but the U of M as an institution is the Pohlad ownership group of the Minnesota Twins, in the Big 10 conference in football and basketball, have been for 40 years. Low rent budgets, high ticket prices, expect more but always pay far less to those that develop success. This isn't to defend Fleck either, he is well compensated just like Glen Mason was, Fleck is well paid. This University as an institution pretends to care about being good at athletics, but then we have the dumpy Williams arena as a basketball home that is symbolic of neglect by the U. One of the smaller stadiums in football with a small fan base that was all too happy to move to the Dome and just get by. I don't care what coaches you get here, the University Minnesota administration, are the Pohlads from MLB in Big 10 athletics, cheap as cheap does. The University expects and demand greatness with less investment then other Big 10 institutions. This is a University of Minnesota problem and it runs as deep as Pohlad problem as the Twins, skimp and skate by on the cheap, and be glad they get Big 10 has revenue sharing, and live off Ohio State and Michigans glory in athletics.
I think a lot of this is gobblygook.
 



Compare Iowa bowl games the last 10 years to ours.
So you’d be satisfied with that ceiling? What if I told you Iowa has won 11 more games than Minnesota has since Fleck has been here? And five of those wins were in Fleck's first two years. If you want to make the playoffs and be a conference title contender consistently then sure chase the next Cignetti, I think it’s a pipe dream personally, but if just a smaller step up to Iowa is your goal then I think Fleck is a much safer bet to eventually get there with help from coordinators versus chasing a new HC.
 

So you’d be satisfied with that ceiling? What if I told you Iowa has won 11 more games than Minnesota has since Fleck has been here? And five of those wins were in Fleck's first two years. If you want to make the playoffs and be a conference title contender consistently then sure chase the next Cignetti, I think it’s a pipe dream personally, but if just a smaller step up to Iowa is your goal then I think Fleck is a much safer bet to eventually get there with help from coordinators versus chasing a new HC.
I didn’t say anything about ceiling lineup, the ball games year to year and which would you prefer?
 

So you’d be satisfied with that ceiling? What if I told you Iowa has won 11 more games than Minnesota has since Fleck has been here? And five of those wins were in Fleck's first two years. If you want to make the playoffs and be a conference title contender consistently then sure chase the next Cignetti, I think it’s a pipe dream personally, but if just a smaller step up to Iowa is your goal then I think Fleck is a much safer bet to eventually get there with help from coordinators versus chasing a new HC.
100% agree
 

You heard it here folks: This is all we can expect.
Why do you have a right to expect 9 or 10 win seasons, in the new Big Ten, going forward like that can be a regular thing for a program like Minnesota?

I would love to hear the reasoning for that. There is no right or wrong answer, I just want to know the reasoning.


By the way, I see SDSU got dominated last night by NDSU, in a similar manner.
 






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