Who are these Leidner's fans you're talking about? I just don't think you get it. People like me are not Leidner's fans. We're fans of the team who recognize there is a long way to go before this team achieves consistent competence on the offensive side of the ball. We just don't look at everything through a bench Leidner/fire Limegrover filter. We hate the incessant, reactionary whining and bitching that occurs before, during and after every game. We won't agree or apologize, not because we're satisfied, but because we would never want to find ourselves on the same side as those who are so incapable of anything resembling reasonable criticism.