My assessment: he's already a handful, and he's the type of improvements I described away from being a force. BUT...I've seen many players take those next steps, and I've seen players not be able to. Those are big steps, so maybe, yes, he's a long way away, but he's only a sophomore. He already does things that few can do.
That’s fair. He could be good. Fairly similar to Courtney James, Holman, Sampson, probably worse than Murphy…just don’t see a star unless he really develops an outside game. A good player for sure, but when I look at him I see 12 and 8 not 18 and 10.
I agree if we don't get these 2 guys (Or guys at a similar level), it'll be hard to be optimistic going into the year.
The blame rests on you and your lack of NIL support. Thanks.
Do they take blunts and shine as payment??
And are all their customers from MN? If not, - actually, let me put it this way. If the company you were buying your cereal from, or your "xyz" from started sponsoring Badger or Hawkeye athletes, wouldn't you patronize someone else? I would.
I don't think that's a huge deal. Nike customers are not all from Oregon and so on. I don't think most consumers would give much of a rip if a Minnesota manufacturer was throwing a bone to the Gophers. I'd buy from a Wisconsin, Badger supporting window company if their windows were a better overall value.
You are correct. In reverse I wouldn't buy Nike's Chinese shoes if they were boxed in Chaska.
I think you have to look at the pace of Payne's improvement. A couple of years ago he was hardly on the radar. Then he started to rise as a senior but still was not rated nearly as high as Oturu was as a senior in HS. By the end of last year he was nearing the effectiveness of Oturu as a frosh. Oturu made a big jump as a sophomore and I think Payne is going to do the same. Daniel may not have made it in the NBA but he was a star here for sure as a soph.
As someone who works in marketing for one of these very large Minnesota companies, I can tell you that this is not how this works.
Fair reply, I can see people taking both sides.
I’m not focused on NIL - I’m more into relationships and opportunities. I’m thinking more about big money careers introductions. You are talking how it is. I’m looking to establish exceptions. More the kind of thing, you’d say- “huh, doesn’t usually work like that”
Every passing minute....really.....come on.
I like Payne’s future.
So, I rarely click on these. Seeing Marcus' tweet, I thought Katz was predicting a breakout year for Payne. In actuality, he was picking one returning player to breakout from each team, and he ranked them in order of impact.
Thank goodness USC and UCLA aren’t in yet.
I hope you are right. Oturu averaged 21 and 11 as a sophomore so it’s a big jump. If Payne averages 12 and 8 as a sophomore I’d consider that good improvement
My perception is and will get lower when we can't even get middle of the pack kids to come here, seriously if we loose out to st. Bonnie.... This is the friggin B1G..... Stop accepting Ben's mediocrity....
If we have 9 in the rotation that average 12 we are in good shape. A rodent juggernaut.
The only thing I am accepting is that Johnson is going to be the coach in 23-24 so hoping for the best. If he can't get the players he needs from the portal then there is a good chance he will get canned after the upcoming season and I am sure there will be much rejoicing from the fans desperate for that day to come.
Just get Pride and Brown (Or 2 at equal level or better) locked so we can all have some hope going into this next year. Or at least those of us who do want success.
Hope. If.
Side note. Prurient left too early. Should have stayed for 4 years.
I learned a new word today. Why was this word in your auto-correct?
