Possible TCF Beer Garden that has U support?

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The legistors who voted for this probably thought that the legislature had this authority, but legislators don't get to decide the limits of power of the legislature.
 

Awesome. I'm glad that the U is willing to put a price on its principles.

I see your point, but whose principles are being compromised? Yours or the University of Minnesota's? They are not necessarily one and the same.
 

Dean S, you can just delete "Morrill Act" from all further discussion on this issue. It has no bearing. The U was founded in 1848. Minnesota was admitted as a state in 1858 (and when the state constitution gave the U its special autonomy). The Morrill Act was passed/signed in 1862. The U became a land-grant university under the Morrill Act in 1868. Nothing "conjointly" about Morrill Act and the U founding (nor state founding). There's no federal issue here.
 

I see your point, but whose principles are being compromised? Yours or the University of Minnesota's? They are not necessarily one and the same.

Given that, since 2009, the U would rather not sell alcohol at all than be forced to sell it to everyone of legal age, it's pretty clear what their principles are. Or, I should say, were.

The U was founded in 1848.

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Awesome. I'm glad that the U is willing to put a price on its principles.

The UM's business plan for TCF was to serve alcohol in the suites. And also to not make it available to the general student population.

The UM is not selling out to anyone or anything rather attempting to regain what it lost due to the legislature's meddling. T

The beer garden concept does surprise me but, if enacted, I fully expect the UM to adopt a strict policy and practice to check ID's and DOB.
 


Given that, since 2009, the U would rather not sell alcohol at all than be forced to sell it to everyone of legal age, it's pretty clear what their principles are. Or, I should say, were.1851

In 2009 is was Bruinink's principles and the principles of the sitting Board of Regents. As always, things change. Deal with it.
 

In 2009 is was Bruinink's principles and the principles of the sitting Board of Regents. As always, things change. Deal with it.

You didn't take a "deal with it" approach when it the U's alcohol policy didn't go your way.
 

Given that, since 2009, the U would rather not sell alcohol at all than be forced to sell it to everyone of legal age, it's pretty clear what their principles are. Or, I should say, were.



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Dangit! 1851, yes.
 

The legistors who voted for this probably thought that the legislature had this authority, but legislators don't get to decide the limits of power of the legislature.

Everywhere in the world (including Washington D.C.) people take all of the power they think they can get away with. This is no different. Except in very rare circumstances the Board of Regents will NEVER sue the Minnesota Legislature for overstepping their bounds. They will complain about it, but that is all.
 



You didn't take a "deal with it" approach when it the U's alcohol policy didn't go your way.

I dealt with it by campaigning for three years to change the policy. You and dopydoll are free to do the same. That is how the world turns.
 

The UM is not selling out to anyone or anything

Of course they are. Do you think they really want to have a hideous, tacky beer garden? Do you think they want to sell beer to their own students in mass quantities? Do you think they want to get people out of their seats and away from cheering on the players? The University CFO even admits the money made will be minimal at best.

They're doing it because that's what it will take to get alcohol sales going in the suites. Dolla dolla bill y'all. And principles are left in the ditch.
 

They're doing it because that's what it will take to get alcohol sales going in the suites. Dolla dolla bill y'all. And principles are left in the ditch.

As well they should be because they were ill conceived and ineffective principles to begin with. They were drenched with personal bias and they accomplished exactly NOTHING.
 

As well they should be because they were ill conceived and ineffective principles to begin with.

The overwhelming majority of major universities in this country share the same principles as it relates to their sporting events. But they're all wrong, and you're right.

They were drenched with personal bias and they accomplished exactly NOTHING.

How many students were served an alcoholic beverage in the stadium by the University in the first three years of TCF's existence? 0.00. I'd call that accomplishing SOMETHING. And what "bias" is there? The bias toward intelligence and common sense?
 




How many students were served an alcoholic beverage in the stadium by the University in the first three years of TCF's existence? 0.00. I'd call that accomplishing SOMETHING. And what "bias" is there? The bias toward intelligence and common sense?[/QUOTE]
 


You're an a$$. I hope you feel ashamed of yourself.

I don't agree with Dpo all the time but I happen to appreciate his love for the "U" and it is his wish to see it be the best it can possibly be.
Do better people...
 

You're an a$$. I hope you feel ashamed of yourself.

I don't agree with Dpo all the time but I happen to appreciate his love for the "U" and it is his wish to see it be the best it can possibly be.
Do better people...

Dpo's been insulting people and using childish names the entire thread. No need to babysit people's responses.
 

Dpo's been insulting people and using childish names the entire thread. No need to babysit people's responses.

I invite you to find the time (ever on this board, really) when I've insulted people's relatives and friends, made asinine presumptions about their personal lives, or talked about someone's personal life at all, for that matter. I'll be waiting.

Talk about me and my posting all you want. Leave my family and friends out of it. That bullsh*t is way, way over the line.
 




I asked a question (sarcastic, obviously) in response to him flat-out stating that my dad was a drunk. It's a pretty big difference. I didn't presume anything or insult anyone's family members.
 

Senate approves sale of alcohol to general public at university's TCF Bank Stadium

The measure allows the University Board of Regents to sign off on a liquor license application for TCF Stadium. A school spokesman says the board supports the change.

http://www.startribune.com/politics/statelocal/144668585.html

What "change"? There has always been a liquor license at TCF allowing the sale of alcohol to the general public. They could've written this article 3 years ago.
 

I asked a question (sarcastic, obviously) in response to him flat-out stating that my dad was a drunk. It's a pretty big difference. I didn't presume anything or insult anyone's family members.

Are you referring to me? I did no such thing. Your anger is blinding you.
 

“Freedom!!!!!!” Rep. John Kriesel, R-Cottage Grove, tweeted afterward.

lol
 

Sounds like a done deal.

http://www.startribune.com/politics/statelocal/144669605.html

Senate green-lights beer sales at U of M football games

Posted by: Jennifer Brooks under Minnesota legislature Updated: March 28, 2012 - 12:48 PM

Fans of beer and college football, rejoice. The Legislature has hammered out a compromise that would allow beer sales at University of Minnesota’s TCF Bank Stadium.

The Senate overwhelmingly approved an omnibus liquor bill that includes a compromise between the university and its fans, who have wrangled for years over whether and where beer should be served in the stadium. The university initially wanted to sell beer only to patrons in its suite level, but the compromise allows beer sales to Gopher fans in the general stadium as well.

“Peace in the valley,” Sen. Geoff Michel, R-Edina, called the compromise, which was included in the omnibus by a simple voice vote. The liquor omnibus itself passed by a thundering 58-4 vote.

“Freedom!!!!!!” Rep. John Kriesel, R-Cottage Grove, tweeted afterward.

University officials watched the result of years of negotiations with approval. But the Board of Regents will still have to hammer out the logistics of the beer sales – where and how the beer will be sold; possibly in a stadium beer garden or other venue.

“The University has been in discussions with legislators on both sides of the aisle about the logistical challenge of instituting the current law, so we do support this legislative fix,” university Director of Public Relations Chuck Tombarge said in a statement. “Ultimately, however, the Board of Regents will examine any law changes and determine how alcohol sales would be managed at TCF Bank Stadium.”

The House omnibus liquor bill already includes the U of M beer sales provision. That bill will head to the floor for final approval sometime in the next few days.
 


Senate green-lights beer sales at U of M football games

Who writes these stories? This is not news. "Senate green-lights beer sales at U of M football games" was the headline 3 years ago. It seems as though people (meaning the media, not you mggoph) think that beer sales were outlawed at TCF, which is not, and never has been, the case. The news will happen when they actually make a decision on when and how they will sell beer and then implement those policies. And when that day comes, I will die a little inside and know that my University proudly proclaims itself the Redneck U of the Big Ten.
 


I have looked around the senate site and found the bill, but the voting record isn't up. Any idea who the 4 dissenters would be?
 

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