POLL: Will UST have a better KenPom ranking than our Gophs at all during the 2022-23 season?

Will UST have a better KenPom ranking than our Gophs at all during the 2022-23 season?

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Wet_Blanket_Guy said:
Johnny tauer would start at coach.

Kendall Blue is a superior player to IMO to Carrington. He has a mindset the gophers needed Carrington to have. Drive and attack (yet can still shoot when needed). Heck of a finisher as well.

Rhode may be able to start for these gophers.

A real question…would either teams (gophers or UST) guards start for any other team in the Big10? The answer is no. (Also most gopher players would barely see the floor on other b10 rosters)
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Good post. I guess I'm just more optimistic than most and think it's still too early to tell. Less than three conference wins and losing players at the end of this year will definitely change my tune.
 




Had happy hour yesterday with a couple UST alums who were headed to the game. We talked about the Tommies and their auspicious entry into D1 but avoided comparisons to the Gophers; too painful!
 





UpAndUnder43 said:
Definitely not building it correctly--thats for sure! Losses=success later. Just like Clem
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UST just got one of their transfer guards playing last night: Eden Prairie's Drake Dobbs, he will help the Tommies big time with ball handling and speed. (they were short guards who can handle the ball *outside Rohde). https://tommiesports.com/sports/mbball/roster/drake-dobbs/8014

They now just need a 6'10" player with beef to guard other bigs - they don't have that on the roster - Portal is the best option
 



Wet_Blanket_Guy said:
UST just got one of their transfer guards playing last night: Eden Prairie's Drake Dobbs, he will help the Tommies big time with ball handling and speed. (they were short guards who can handle the ball *outside Rohde). https://tommiesports.com/sports/mbball/roster/drake-dobbs/8014

They now just need a 6'10" player with beef to guard other bigs - they don't have that on the roster - Portal is the best option
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UST will be interesting because the portal giveth and the portal taketh away. Who knows if guys will stick around if they are offered a spot at a P6 school. Or maybe they are building something that will attract cast offs from P6 schools.

Fun to watch as there just aren't a ton of teams joining D1
 

UpAndUnder43 said:
UST will be interesting because the portal giveth and the portal taketh away. Who knows if guys will stick around if they are offered a spot at a P6 school. Or maybe they are building something that will attract cast offs from P6 schools.

Fun to watch as there just aren't a ton of teams joining D1
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Yeah, you gotta worry that Rohde's a flight risk.
 
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Wet_Blanket_Guy said:
UST just got one of their transfer guards playing last night: Eden Prairie's Drake Dobbs, he will help the Tommies big time with ball handling and speed. (they were short guards who can handle the ball *outside Rohde). https://tommiesports.com/sports/mbball/roster/drake-dobbs/8014

They now just need a 6'10" player with beef to guard other bigs - they don't have that on the roster - Portal is the best option
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Drake Dobbs is also a good example of the type of player we should have targeted (back up ball handling depth) for a couple of years rather than sitting on scholarships.
 

UpAndUnder43 said:
UST will be interesting because the portal giveth and the portal taketh away. Who knows if guys will stick around if they are offered a spot at a P6 school. Or maybe they are building something that will attract cast offs from P6 schools.

Fun to watch as there just aren't a ton of teams joining D1
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Agree. I think it will go both ways. I know they had a Power 5 kid interested this year possibly transferring in but the fact UST can’t qualify for the NCAA tournament made it a no go.
 



It's good to see the Gophers feeder program having success.
 

I'm not necessarily in the camp that says St. Thomas would beat the Gophers this season, but for those of you who've seen St. Thomas play (I've seen them 4 times), how many of these Tommie guards would help the Gophers more than Samuels? For me, it's a minimum of 3.

Kendall Blue (wing)
Drake Dobbs (PG)
Ryan Dufault (PG)
Riley Miller (SG/sniper)
Andrew Rohde (CG)
 
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SelectionSunday said:
I'm not necessarily in the camp that says St. Thomas would beat the Gophers this season, but for those of you who've seen St. Thomas play (I've seen them 4 times), how many of these Tommie guards would help the Gophers more than Samuels? For me, it's a minimum of 3.

Kendall Blue (wing)
Drake Dobbs (PG)
Ryan Dufault (PG)
Riley Miller (SG/sniper)
Andrew Rohde (CG)
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Can any of them play defense? Or is the reason UST is so bad at team defense that they don't have enough/any true bigs? (serious questions)

This is the same question I have about Fox.
 

SelectionSunday said:
I'm not necessarily in the camp that says St. Thomas would beat the Gophers this season, but for those of you who've seen St. Thomas play (I've seen them 4 times), how many of these Tommie guards would help the Gophers more than Samuels? For me, it's a minimum of 3.

Kendall Blue (wing)
Drake Dobbs (PG)
Ryan Dufault (PG)
Riley Miller (SG/sniper)
Andrew Rohde (CG)
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More than samuels…4
 

formerlybis said:
Can any of them play defense? Or is the reason UST is so bad at team defense that they don't have enough/any true bigs? (serious questions)

This is the same question I have about Fox.
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They have no true bigs, get destroyed in the paint when a team has a 6’9” guy with beef …IMO this needs to be their main portal target 6’8-7’-0” with beef. Doesn’t have to be a great scorer…just has to be able to defend

Colton Iverson would’ve been a prototype for this role.
 

SelectionSunday said:
I'm not necessarily in the camp that says St. Thomas would beat the Gophers this season, but for those of you who've seen St. Thomas play (I've seen them 4 times), how many of these Tommie guards would help the Gophers more than Samuels? For me, it's a minimum of 3.

Kendall Blue (wing)
Drake Dobbs (PG)
Ryan Dufault (PG)
Riley Miller (SG/sniper)
Andrew Rohde (CG)
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Here is my honest opinion:

(1) Kendall Blue - I'd certainly take him right now, but not most year. I think he is a good enough athlete to do a lot of the things we'd want from a wing, but I think both Carrington and Henley are better prospects. So yes, we could use him this year because we are so desperate for wings, but I don't blame Ben for not offering a third wing. That said, I wouldn't have been opposed to offering him either.

(2) Ryan Dufault - I barely remember him but I don't think he could do much at the Big 10 level. He is a SO, so I wouldn't have had any interest in him eating up a scholarship for three seasons.

(3) Drake Dobbs - I'd have taken him in a heart beat. He can handle the ball and shoot a bit. I don't think he is necessarily a Big 10 athlete but he could play 10 minutes per game to spell Cooper (provide depth). He had a pretty good FR season at Liberty before transferring out.

(4) Riley Miller - Absolutely. He would be starting for us at SG. He is a good shooter at a high volume. He would struggle on defense in the Big 10, but he'd absolutely play for us. He could play for most Gopher teams as a shooter off the bench.

(5) Andrew Rohde - Absolutely. He'd be one of our better players and he will either end up one of the best players in the Summit League or end up at one in a major conference. He's good. He isn't great on defense yet, but I think he'll end up being fine on defense.

If this was our current team, we'd be much better than we are now (you can move the starters around however you want).

PG: Cooper / Dobbs / Samuels
SG: Miller / Carrington
SG: Rohde / Henley
PF: Battle / Olo-Joseph
C: Garcia / Payne
 


Bob_Loblaw said:
Here is my honest opinion:

(1) Kendall Blue - I'd certainly take him right now, but not most year. I think he is a good enough athlete to do a lot of the things we'd want from a wing, but I think both Carrington and Henley are better prospects. So yes, we could use him this year because we are so desperate for wings, but I don't blame Ben for not offering a third wing. That said, I wouldn't have been opposed to offering him either.

(2) Ryan Dufault - I barely remember him but I don't think he could do much at the Big 10 level. He is a SO, so I wouldn't have had any interest in him eating up a scholarship for three seasons.

(3) Drake Dobbs - I'd have taken him in a heart beat. He can handle the ball and shoot a bit. I don't think he is necessarily a Big 10 athlete but he could play 10 minutes per game to spell Cooper (provide depth). He had a pretty good FR season at Liberty before transferring out.

(4) Riley Miller - Absolutely. He would be starting for us at SG. He is a good shooter at a high volume. He would struggle on defense in the Big 10, but he'd absolutely play for us. He could play for most Gopher teams as a shooter off the bench.

(5) Andrew Rohde - Absolutely. He'd be one of our better players and he will either end up one of the best players in the Summit League or end up at one in a major conference. He's good. He isn't great on defense yet, but I think he'll end up being fine on defense.

If this was our current team, we'd be much better than we are now (you can move the starters around however you want).

PG: Cooper / Dobbs / Samuels
SG: Miller / Carrington
SG: Rohde / Henley
PF: Battle / Olo-Joseph
C: Garcia / Payne
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Dufault is not a B10 caliber player. He is a pure hustle guy right now in the Summit league, but he doesn’t get by on talent.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
Here is my honest opinion:

(1) Kendall Blue - I'd certainly take him right now, but not most year. I think he is a good enough athlete to do a lot of the things we'd want from a wing, but I think both Carrington and Henley are better prospects. So yes, we could use him this year because we are so desperate for wings, but I don't blame Ben for not offering a third wing. That said, I wouldn't have been opposed to offering him either.

(2) Ryan Dufault - I barely remember him but I don't think he could do much at the Big 10 level. He is a SO, so I wouldn't have had any interest in him eating up a scholarship for three seasons.

(3) Drake Dobbs - I'd have taken him in a heart beat. He can handle the ball and shoot a bit. I don't think he is necessarily a Big 10 athlete but he could play 10 minutes per game to spell Cooper (provide depth). He had a pretty good FR season at Liberty before transferring out.

(4) Riley Miller - Absolutely. He would be starting for us at SG. He is a good shooter at a high volume. He would struggle on defense in the Big 10, but he'd absolutely play for us. He could play for most Gopher teams as a shooter off the bench.

(5) Andrew Rohde - Absolutely. He'd be one of our better players and he will either end up one of the best players in the Summit League or end up at one in a major conference. He's good. He isn't great on defense yet, but I think he'll end up being fine on defense.

If this was our current team, we'd be much better than we are now (you can move the starters around however you want).

PG: Cooper / Dobbs / Samuels
SG: Miller / Carrington
SG: Rohde / Henley
PF: Battle / Olo-Joseph
C: Garcia / Payne
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Why didn’t Ben get these kids to play at the u?
 



Roland Brooks said:
Dufault is quick he is strong and has hops but his basketball skill set is low major. Very good on ball defender
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Good description. I’ve never seen teams sag so far off a guard (they dare him to shoot). He has a few exciting plays every game because he has callus disregard for his body when attacking the rim.
 






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