Official 2023 Gophers Football Recruiting Thread: Links, Tweets, Videos, Rumors

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hungan1 said:
They are still on Covid protocol.
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Great answer! Fleck and crew, I'm sure have been extremely busy this weekend. I'll take the recruiting news and his time with the recruits at this point of the game.
 

There will be more good news to come. They are dotting the "I"s and crossing the "T"s.
 



I know we are all drooling over Moss’s four star rating, but I really think Zaquan Bryan could be just as good. Similar to Walley and Dickerson.
 

Post Summer Splash write up

QB (1) Viotto
RB (2) Taylor and 1 other
WR (2/3) 3 WR or 2 and Walsh
TE (2) Peters and Walsh or 1 other
OL (5) J Williams and 1 other iol OT Tripp, G. Johnson and Mister
DT (2) Owusu and 1 other
DE (2/3) 3 more
LB (2/3) McCutchin, Elliott and 1 other
CB (2)Bryan and 1 other
S (1/2) others
Prospects to fill open positions and competition.
QB no one else
RB M Williams visiting 6-17. (A&M, VA Tech
WR Cooley 6-10,Ole Miss 6/2, Vandy 6/17, UNC 6/24 R Manning6-10, MD Haynes, Hayes 6-10
TE Orwerth 6/10, WI 6/3, Pitt 6/16, Iowa 6/24
IOL Daniel 6/10
DT Gadson 6/10, FSU 6/24, GA and TN Davis Iowa State 6/17
DE Howard 6/10 ( Mich 6/17, LSU 6/21, Miami 6/24) A. Williams 6/10 (Neb 6/3 Menz 6/10 (Neb 6/17) T Williams
LB Chambliss 6/17, UTah 6/3, Boise St 6/9 Newsome 6/10 K State 6/13, Stanford 6/18, Iowa 6/24
McIntire 6/17 OK 6/8, Iowa 6/10K State 6/24
CB Moss 6/10 Baylor 6/24 Fleming 6/10 VA Tech 6/12, UNC 6/17
S Cole 6/10, IN 6/17, Purdue 6/24 K Brown 6/10, NC State 6/3, Louisville 6/17, ? 6/24
P walk on McGrath
 

I'm always happy to see the new guys and have them come to the U. I don't know though, our recruiting just seems a little blah. I thought by year 6, Fleck would be bringing in some more big timers than we currently do.
 



kg21 said:
I'm always happy to see the new guys and have them come to the U. I don't know though, our recruiting just seems a little blah. I thought by year 6, Fleck would be bringing in some more big timers than we currently do.
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Patience. The ones with options take multiple visits
If they get DE Howard and Williams,
DT Gadson or Davis
RB M. Williams
WR two of A. Brown, Manning and Cooley
TE Ortwerth
CB Moss or Fleming
S Brown
LB Newsome, Chambliss or McIntyre
OL Daniels
Which are all still possible, they will have a top 25 class and multiple 4 stars. Most top guys will wait until after the 6/24 visits.
 

Jeremyp said:
Patience. The ones with options take multiple visits
If they get DE Howard and Williams,
DT Gadson or Davis
RB M. Williams
WR two of A. Brown, Manning and Cooley
TE Ortwerth
CB Moss or Fleming
S Brown
LB Newsome, Chambliss or McIntyre
OL Daniels
Which are all still possible, they will have a top 25 class and multiple 4 stars. Most top guys will wait until after the 6/24 visits.
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I doubt that, but it’s becoming much less relevant with free transfers. I still like the class so far, I like the emphasis on local guys, I think they are less likely to transfer early.
 

btowngopher said:
I know we are all drooling over Moss’s four star rating, but I really think Zaquan Bryan could be just as good. Similar to Walley and Dickerson.
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The HS ratings are just that. The proof will come in practice and competition.

I am not worried about Gopher Recruiting under PJ Fleck. It was tough to recruit to MN. Patience is required.
 




kg21 said:
I'm always happy to see the new guys and have them come to the U. I don't know though, our recruiting just seems a little blah. I thought by year 6, Fleck would be bringing in some more big timers than we currently do.
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Have to agree to disagree on this one. Not blah at all unless you know the results 5 years from now.
 




Off-GridTNgopher said:
If you look at avg recruits star rating it's still bottom half of the B1G.....

247 has us ranked high because we have more commits than others...
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The best Fleck has finished is 7th, been bottom half every other year.
 

Off-GridTNgopher said:
If you look at avg recruits star rating it's still bottom half of the B1G.....

247 has us ranked high because we have more commits than others...
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I will start worrying about the AVG star ranking when someone can definitely prove that a class average of 88.xx is significantly better than a class average of 85.xx somewhere other than just on recruiting websites.

Are we bringing in players on par with the majority of the conference and are we bringing in guys that can play in the Big Ten? Those are the only things that matter
 

Wonder how much of this instate recruiting has to do with missing out on Trey Lance? Seems like we don't want to let any instate athletes get away this year.
 

MNVCGUY said:
I will start worrying about the AVG star ranking when someone can definitely prove that a class average of 88.xx is significantly better than a class average of 85.xx somewhere other than just on recruiting websites.

Are we bringing in players on par with the majority of the conference and are we bringing in guys that can play in the Big Ten? Those are the only things that matter
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Not arguing against that . However come Feb will it still look as good when we're sitting 45th in the nation vs the 12th as we currently are...

I have 0 qualms with this class... However I wouldn't mind seeing our lowest rated recruits in that .85 area... And not around .83...
 


Off-GridTNgopher said:
Not arguing against that . However come Feb will it still look as good when we're sitting 45th in the nation vs the 12th as we currently are...

I have 0 qualms with this class... However I wouldn't mind seeing our lowest rated recruits in that .85 area... And not around .83...
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That would really make you feel better? I think you’re giving the recruiting sites way too much credit with the accuracy of their evaluations.
 


gopherphil said:
PJ’s win average don’t reflect these poor 247 ratings. Either they are better than they are rated by these sites or he’s a better coach than given credit for.
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There is also way more to acquiring talent than recruiting rankings. Things like attrition (for the people you want to keep), fit, and now the portal really matter.
 

Off-GridTNgopher said:
Not arguing against that . However come Feb will it still look as good when we're sitting 45th in the nation vs the 12th as we currently are...

I have 0 qualms with this class... However I wouldn't mind seeing our lowest rated recruits in that .85 area... And not around .83...
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If you like the recruits we are signing now, why would you like them any less if when it is all said and done our class is ranked in the 40's?

As to wanting to see guys ranked in the .85 as opposed to .83.....that is giving the sites way too much credit for accuracy. Unless there is anyone that truly believes the recruiting sites can accurately rank an OT from Gary Indiana, against one from Kasson MN, and another from Prior Lake MN and accurately assign number grades to those guys that will 100% reflect what kind of college player they will end up being. Keeping in mind that they have probably never met any of those players or seen them in person and are basing their whole evaluation on some game film.

There is no doubt there is a difference in the caliber of player we are bringing in when compared with a team like Ohio State. But once you get beyond the best of the best it really is just a crap shoot and will come down to which staff does a better job finding players that fit their system and will stick around throughout their career to become productive players at the college level.

The day they set foot on campus the recruiting rankings mean absolutely nothing and we get to find out if they can play or not.

Sorry for the mini rant. :)
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
There is also way more to acquiring talent than recruiting rankings. Things like attrition (for the people you want to keep), fit, and now the portal really matter.
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Good point. The portal is so huge. A four maybe even a five star linebacker probably doesn’t have an immediate impact like Jack Gibbens did, who was probably like a 2 star out of high school.
 



It looks like Kade McIntyre is no longer showing on the visit list for this weekend (or are OV's now only one-day events??), which makes sense as it is showing he committed to OU on June 13.

Was supposed to visit here and then K-State on the 24th. Visited OU on June 8 and Iowa on June 10. https://247sports.com/player/kade-mcintyre-46131447/


Now just Tyler Brown this weekend, a late offer at WR.
https://247sports.com/college/minnesota/Season/2023-Football/Visits/

We appear to be his only P5 offer.
 

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