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HopherGole said:
Miami is still producing NFL players, just not winning BCS championships. I would go to Miami over the U of M if I want to go pro.
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Unfortunately, it seems that many 17 and 18 year-olds share the same misconceptions as you.
 

Congrats to EJ! If anyone gets an offer from the National Championship team, we would all strongly consider/commit to that school.

In regards to OL. Who is next up? I had read that the 1 lineman that stood out at camp over the weekend was Tyus Deboer from Marshall. Anyone have any insight on him?
 

GopherHomer said:
So, if you were a MN high school football player you would choose Miami over the hometown Gophers? Even our fans aren't loyal!
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F*ck no! Me personally? Not a chance..... I'm saying these average high school kids who may not be diehard Gopher fans would make that choice. Especially if they have aspirations of being pro. Walk through those facilities and look at the long list of big time NFL names and tell me you're staying. Besides, U of Miami is a great school academically too
 

Dominic Cizauskas commited to wisky.

Just as well seeing some of their responses to the Elmore commit.
One more like that and they'd be scraping stale Old Mil beer and bratwurst off walls due to heads exploding.
 


Ole said:
Dominic Cizauskas commited to wisky.

Just as well seeing some of their responses to the Elmore commit.
One more like that and they'd be scraping stale Old Mil beer and bratwurst off walls due to heads exploding.
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There's also a huge difference between a kid that grew up 40 minutes from Minneapolis and a kid that grew up 40 minutes from Madison. They have a point there that I don't think many people would argue.

That said, I'd be glad to simply lock down our borders and pick up the occasional talent from Eau Claire and west (that seems to be the dividing line between what is oriented towards the TC and what is oriented towards Madison/Milwaukee/Chicago)
 

Andre Maloney to Kansas. Had us in his top 3 and was going to visit in July.
 

HopherGole said:
Miami is still producing NFL players, just not winning BCS championships. I would go to Miami over the U of M if I want to go pro.
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They aren't producing NFL players at anywhere close to the rate that they used to. They had six first round picks in one year (2004). They haven't had a first rounder in five years. That's a pretty dramatic fall. And yes, I realize the Gophers haven't had any players drafted or had a first rounder in quite awhile.
 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>2014 B1G Recruiting <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Gophers&src=hash">#Gophers</a> Commit G Elmore 6'5" 240 TE Complete TE Blks,Runs,Catch growth poten. Gr8 get. A lot B1G offers Perfect fit 4 O</p>— Gerry DiNardo (@gerrydinardo) <a href="https://twitter.com/gerrydinardo/statuses/347716629490188289">June 20, 2013</a></blockquote>
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He just did Elmore as well...

EDIT: Oops, never mind you posted his. Well, here's Connor's on this thread for those who may miss it:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>2014 B1G Recruiting <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Gophers&src=hash">#Gophers</a> Commit C Mayes 6'5" 335 OL Quick,stg,good feet,plays mean, blks 2nd level Will b 1 of best Fr OL in B1G 2014 4*</p>— Gerry DiNardo (@gerrydinardo) <a href="https://twitter.com/gerrydinardo/statuses/347715731988832256">June 20, 2013</a></blockquote>
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I'm looking forward to the next middle and outside linebacker commits. Any idea who seems hot for these offers?
 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Minnesota's top OL Frank Ragnow (<a href="https://twitter.com/KNARFWONGAR">@KNARFWONGAR</a>) is no longer visiting <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Minnesota&src=hash">#Minnesota</a> this afternoon as previously scheduled. Visits Iowa tomorrow</p>— RyanBurnsGI (@RyanBurnsGI) <a href="https://twitter.com/RyanBurnsGI/statuses/347795515880120320">June 20, 2013</a></blockquote>
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GopherInPittsburgh said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Minnesota's top OL Frank Ragnow (<a href="https://twitter.com/KNARFWONGAR">@KNARFWONGAR</a>) is no longer visiting <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Minnesota&src=hash">#Minnesota</a> this afternoon as previously scheduled. Visits Iowa tomorrow</p>— RyanBurnsGI (@RyanBurnsGI) <a href="https://twitter.com/RyanBurnsGI/statuses/347795515880120320">June 20, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Hmmmm....I try not to read too much into this kind of stuff. But this is interesting. Ragnow is a heck of a football player. I thought he'd be more recruited than Hassanuer.
 



Breakin' The Plane said:
They aren't producing NFL players at anywhere close to the rate that they used to. They had six first round picks in one year (2004). They haven't had a first rounder in five years. That's a pretty dramatic fall. And yes, I realize the Gophers haven't had any players drafted or had a first rounder in quite awhile.
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The 2001 team had 42 players who went on to be drafted into the NFL. I'm not trying to pick a side to this argument, that's just a staggering number.
 

GopherInPittsburgh said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Minnesota's top OL Frank Ragnow (<a href="https://twitter.com/KNARFWONGAR">@KNARFWONGAR</a>) is no longer visiting <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Minnesota&src=hash">#Minnesota</a> this afternoon as previously scheduled. Visits Iowa tomorrow</p>— RyanBurnsGI (@RyanBurnsGI) <a href="https://twitter.com/RyanBurnsGI/statuses/347795515880120320">June 20, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Found this a little weird but saw that someone asked Ryan Burns why and he said a family issue came up and Ragnow plans to reschedule soon.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Minnesota OT Frank Ragnow (<a href="https://twitter.com/KNARFWONGAR">@KNARFWONGAR</a>) didn't visit Iowa this weekend as planned & the Hawkeyes picked up an OL commit. Good news for MN.</p>— RyanBurnsGI (@RyanBurnsGI) <a href="https://twitter.com/RyanBurnsGI/statuses/348568114998439936">June 22, 2013</a></blockquote>
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HopherGole said:
Miami is still producing NFL players, just not winning BCS championships. I would go to Miami over the U of M if I want to go pro.
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Anyone who believes that going to a particular school will get them to the NFL is a complete moron. If a player is good enough, NFL teams will find him. Ask Jerry Rice, Jim Kleinsausser, Walter Payton, Matt Birk or any of the other 100's of players that have had great NFL careers that came from D-IAA, D-II or D-III schools. Even a powerhouse like Alabama doesn't promise every player will become a NFL player.
Miami over Minnesota? You can have Miami, along with their NCAA violations and lengthy arrest record. As a parent, I would rather send my kid to a quality school with coaches that have integrity and get a degree. Keep in mind that less than 1% of all D-I players will make it to the NFL and if they do, the average career is 2.5 years.
 


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Caught up with 3* & top 15 all-purpose RB Deron Thompson (<a href="https://twitter.com/deronTHETRUTH20">@deronTHETRUTH20</a>) tonight. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Minnesota&src=hash">#Minnesota</a> is sitting extremely well with him right now</p>— RyanBurnsGI (@RyanBurnsGI) <a href="https://twitter.com/RyanBurnsGI/statuses/349001012926881792">June 24, 2013</a></blockquote>
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EliteHSscout said:
Anyone who believes that going to a particular school will get them to the NFL is a complete moron. If a player is good enough, NFL teams will find him. Ask Jerry Rice, Jim Kleinsausser, Walter Payton, Matt Birk or any of the other 100's of players that have had great NFL careers that came from D-IAA, D-II or D-III schools. Even a powerhouse like Alabama doesn't promise every player will become a NFL player.
Miami over Minnesota? You can have Miami, along with their NCAA violations and lengthy arrest record. As a parent, I would rather send my kid to a quality school with coaches that have integrity and get a degree. Keep in mind that less than 1% of all D-I players will make it to the NFL and if they do, the average career is 2.5 years.
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I think everyone understands that there are exceptions to what usually happens. However, playing well in the SEC absolutely will help you get to the NFL. Playing against better competition helps players.

As far as schooling. . . University of Miami is a good school. It's usually ranked right there with the top 1/2 of the Big 10. They have a shady athletic department, no doubt, but it's a good school.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
I think everyone understands that there are exceptions to what usually happens. However, playing well in the SEC absolutely will help you get to the NFL. Playing against better competition helps players.

As far as schooling. . . University of Miami is a good school. It's usually ranked right there with the top 1/2 of the Big 10. They have a shady athletic department, no doubt, but it's a good school.
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+1
 

Two new offers went out to Minnesota Preps this past weekend. NDSU offered both Marshall OL/DL Tyus DeBoer (6'5 265) and Spring Lake Park RB/LB Eji Ejiwa (6'2 185). We are up to 22 rising seniors in the state with BCS/FBS/FCS offers. Will be updating the top player list later this week.
 


There's no denying that the SEC has more high draft picks than any other conference, but that's not exact evidence. They get the best recruits which doesn't necessarily mean they got drafted because they were in the SEC. I think the players drafted high from the SEC would have been drafted high regardless of which school they went to. I'm not really arguing, because I agree that it's difficult to turn down an offer from Alabama (which is what started this debate) but I stand by my belief that it doesn't really matter what school you go to in respect to draft position. They will find you...heck, they probably pretty much know about your draft status when you're a senior in high school. This is big business. You could even argue that Eddie Lacy's value was denigrated by the fact that he ran behind an elite offensive line ( I heard that argument against him).
 

GopherHomer said:
There's no denying that the SEC has more high draft picks than any other conference, but that's not exact evidence. They get the best recruits which doesn't necessarily mean they got drafted because they were in the SEC.
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Just for reference, since 2008, SEC teams have averaged signing 8.4 four or five star (Rivals) recruits per team per year. The Big Ten was 4.5.

I think the players drafted high from the SEC would have been drafted high regardless of which school they went to. I'm not really arguing, because I agree that it's difficult to turn down an offer from Alabama (which is what started this debate) but I stand by my belief that it doesn't really matter what school you go to in respect to draft position. They will find you...heck, they probably pretty much know about your draft status when you're a senior in high school. This is big business. You could even argue that Eddie Lacy's value was denigrated by the fact that he ran behind an elite offensive line ( I heard that argument against him).
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I think you're underestimating two things though:
1. The top programs generally also have the best coaches. Better coaching usually means better development.
2. The power of better competition; both playing against better teams/players and competition for playing time. The better the guy is you're competing against, the more determined you usually are.
 

GophersInIowa said:
Just for reference, since 2008, SEC teams have averaged signing 8.4 four or five star (Rivals) recruits per team per year. The Big Ten was 4.5.



I think you're underestimating two things though:
1. The top programs generally also have the best coaches. Better coaching usually means better development.
2. The power of better competition; both playing against better teams/players and competition for playing time. The better the guy is you're competing against, the more determined you usually are.
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I agree with you on coaching, but if you're in the B10 it's not like you have a bunch of chumps coaching you (queue Brewster joke). You could also argue that playing against better competition wears more on a player. Football players are commodities and can only absorb so much punishment. The SEC is by far the best conference in college football, they get the best high school players, and have the most players drafted. It's basically the chicken and the egg discussion. Do the players make the conference or does the conference make the players. Obviously it's probably somewhere in the middle, and we'll never get to the exact truth. But, it's a good discussion anyhow...
 




GophersInIowa said:
It's recruiting related and there's not a whole lot to talk about right now. I don't see a big problem in this particular discussion.
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Sorry but I agree. It's a 2014 recruiting update thread, and when I see new posts in it that's what I expect. When that's not the case it can get frustrating. Maybe others feel the same, or maybe not. Just my two cents.
 

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