Official 2013 Class Recruiting Updates Thread

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scools12 said:
Kill should be given credit for getting in on what would be cosnidered better prospects considering Minnesota but improved recruiting isn't just getting your foot in the door.

That might be good enough for now but in the next 2-3 years for recruiting to legitimately be improved some of these deemed better prospects need to attend Minnesota and not just consider attending.
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I think people seem to forget how talented last years group is!!! As True FR Willams, Nelson, McDonald, Harbison, Maye, and Plsek all played on offense and held their own in the B1G. Murray, Ekpe, Keith,Travis, and A. Johnson all contributed on Defense and special teams as TRUE FRESHMAN! R. Johnson, Shabazz, Boddy, Fruechte, Gillum (disapointed w/ him especially w/ the hype), and Baltazar were all JUCO transfers who contributed and played well.

Hayes and Pirsig were RS'd and will be Beasts, those two alone were high end recruits with Multiple AQ offers. Also, don't forget about Max Williams who played with Nelson in an All-American game which slips my mind at this moment.

Point being, 11 True FR contributed significant playing time some at key positions i.e. QB, RB, WR, DE. I think the 2012 class will go down as really really good class especially once Pirsig and Hayes hit the field!
 

Wouldn't You like to Know said:
I think people seem to forget how talented last years group is!!! As True FR Willams, Nelson, McDonald, Harbison, Maye, and Plsek all played on offense and held their own in the B1G. Murray, Ekpe, Keith,Travis, and A. Johnson all contributed on Defense and special teams as TRUE FRESHMAN! R. Johnson, Shabazz, Boddy, Fruechte, Gillum (disapointed w/ him especially w/ the hype), and Baltazar were all JUCO transfers who contributed and played well.

Hayes and Pirsig were RS'd and will be Beasts, those two alone were high end recruits with Multiple AQ offers. Also, don't forget about Max Williams who played with Nelson in an All-American game which slips my mind at this moment.

Point being, 11 True FR contributed significant playing time some at key positions i.e. QB, RB, WR, DE. I think the 2012 class will go down as really really good class especially once Pirsig and Hayes hit the field!
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+1
 

Wouldn't You like to Know said:
I think people seem to forget how talented last years group is!!! As True FR Willams, Nelson, McDonald, Harbison, Maye, and Plsek all played on offense and held their own in the B1G. Murray, Ekpe, Keith,Travis, and A. Johnson all contributed on Defense and special teams as TRUE FRESHMAN! R. Johnson, Shabazz, Boddy, Fruechte, Gillum (disapointed w/ him especially w/ the hype), and Baltazar were all JUCO transfers who contributed and played well.

Hayes and Pirsig were RS'd and will be Beasts, those two alone were high end recruits with Multiple AQ offers. Also, don't forget about Max Williams who played with Nelson in an All-American game which slips my mind at this moment.

Point being, 11 True FR contributed significant playing time some at key positions i.e. QB, RB, WR, DE. I think the 2012 class will go down as really really good class especially once Pirsig and Hayes hit the field!
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I am curious what you consider holding their own in the B1G and playing well. I know that is open to interpretation. I am more curious how the talent level compares to other teams in the B1G, which it is significantly lacking IMO. While young players playing early is an indication they may have more talent that some of the older players on the team, it doesn't mean they are talented in relationship to the competition. It is kind of like being the prettiest girl at fat camp, still not a prize. Kill is still ranking near the bottom of the B1G compared to his competition.
 

Wouldn't You like to Know said:
I think people seem to forget how talented last years group is!!! As True FR Willams, Nelson, McDonald, Harbison, Maye, and Plsek all played on offense and held their own in the B1G. Murray, Ekpe, Keith,Travis, and A. Johnson all contributed on Defense and special teams as TRUE FRESHMAN! R. Johnson, Shabazz, Boddy, Fruechte, Gillum (disapointed w/ him especially w/ the hype), and Baltazar were all JUCO transfers who contributed and played well.

Hayes and Pirsig were RS'd and will be Beasts, those two alone were high end recruits with Multiple AQ offers. Also, don't forget about Max Williams who played with Nelson in an All-American game which slips my mind at this moment.

Point being, 11 True FR contributed significant playing time some at key positions i.e. QB, RB, WR, DE. I think the 2012 class will go down as really really good class especially once Pirsig and Hayes hit the field!
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what did i miss?
 

Gentlemen,
Finally, the time is here. Jordan Hinojosa lands at MSP tomorrow a 2:16 pm. I'm so excited to be a Gopher dad.
 


GopherGod said:
I am curious what you consider holding their own in the B1G and playing well. I know that is open to interpretation. I am more curious how the talent level compares to other teams in the B1G, which it is significantly lacking IMO. While young players playing early is an indication they may have more talent that some of the older players on the team, it doesn't mean they are talented in relationship to the competition. It is kind of like being the prettiest girl at fat camp, still not a prize. Kill is still ranking near the bottom of the B1G compared to his competition.
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You don't think Nelson held his own against Purdue? Look I never said they were ALL B1G, dude! They held their own if you don't believe me watch the tape. Remember they are TRUE Freshman!!!!
 

mnsports1 said:
what did i miss?
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Apart from Harbison playing in the B1G he did START as a true freshman. According to Kill & co. he would have been their most dangerous offensive weapon. So, I thank you for being so nit picky but that's what we've come to expect from you. Instead of finding the one error in the post and making an "I think I'm so smart," arrogant comment try and focus your time and energy on the meat and potatoes of the post. What was my point?
 

btowngopher said:
Dixon, West, Webb, and Thompson. I think these 4 are the most likely to commit. I don't even know if we have 4 scholarships. According to the Daily Gopher's grid we have two available, but they have Moulton on the grid and that seems to be a question mark.
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From looking at how many players are still visiting this month, I wouldn't be surprised if this class ends up around 20. WR is a mystery to me, you would think they would be hitting this position much harder if Eric Carter is the only commit. Unless they are possibly viewing Nate Andrews as a WR now?
 

Wouldn't You like to Know said:
You don't think Nelson held his own against Purdue? Look I never said they were ALL B1G, dude! They held their own if you don't believe me watch the tape. Remember they are TRUE Freshman!!!!
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You initially listed multiple players as holding their own in the B1G, now it is down to one player in one B1G game. Again it is subjective but one game doesn't equate to me as holding their own.
 




GopherGod said:
You initially listed multiple players as holding their own in the B1G, now it is down to one player in one B1G game. Again it is subjective but one game doesn't equate to me as holding their own.
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I listed a specific example. Would you seriously like me to write up blog?!?! Stop being so ignorant!
 

Wouldn't You like to Know said:
I think people seem to forget how talented last years group is!!! As True FR Willams, Nelson, McDonald, Harbison, Maye, and Plsek all played on offense and held their own in the B1G. Murray, Ekpe, Keith,Travis, and A. Johnson all contributed on Defense and special teams as TRUE FRESHMAN! R. Johnson, Shabazz, Boddy, Fruechte, Gillum (disapointed w/ him especially w/ the hype), and Baltazar were all JUCO transfers who contributed and played well.

Hayes and Pirsig were RS'd and will be Beasts, those two alone were high end recruits with Multiple AQ offers. Also, don't forget about Max Williams who played with Nelson in an All-American game which slips my mind at this moment.

Point being, 11 True FR contributed significant playing time some at key positions i.e. QB, RB, WR, DE. I think the 2012 class will go down as really really good class especially once Pirsig and Hayes hit the field!
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The 2012 may go down as a good class but the fact remains that by the ranking servies the class was ranked at the bottom of the conference.
 

GopherGod said:
You initially listed multiple players as holding their own in the B1G, now it is down to one player in one B1G game. Again it is subjective but one game doesn't equate to me as holding their own.
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Here's a couple more for you then: Plsek had a good number of crushing blocks, all of which came against B1G competition. Also, Roderick Williams had many nice, powerful, runs and put up some decent numbers in many games. I will say that Maye and McDonald didn't do a ton this season but they are still young with plenty of potential. The thing that you seem to fail to be taking into consideration is that these are all TRUE freshman that we are talking about. None of them were world-beaters this year but for 18-19 year old kids they played quite well.
 




Wouldn't You like to Know said:
Apart from Harbison playing in the B1G he did START as a true freshman. According to Kill & co. he would have been their most dangerous offensive weapon. So, I thank you for being so nit picky but that's what we've come to expect from you. Instead of finding the one error in the post and making an "I think I'm so smart," arrogant comment try and focus your time and energy on the meat and potatoes of the post. What was my point?
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I've got no problem with your opinion, just tell the truth or explain it accurately. Lying doesn't advance your point. Pointing out that a guy didn't play in the B1G is not my def. of nit-picky, but carry on.
 

scools12 said:
The 2012 may go down as a good class but the fact remains that by the ranking servies the class was ranked at the bottom of the conference.
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100% correct. Last year, our class was ranked #72 in the nation (per rivals) and this year we are hovering around the same mark. Way more often than not these rankings give a clear indication as to your incoming players talent level (most would agree). However, they are wrong about players i.e. Decker being a 2* etc... That being said and as others state on this board, I tend to look more at the offers a player has rather than his star ranking. The Andrews kid has a ton of legit AQ offers (FSU, Alabama etc.) and last year Pirsig, Hayes, McDonald, and Harbison all had a bunch as well.

However, a lot of these kids end their recruitment early (i.e. Nelson) so they don't accumulate a ton of offers. Recruiting is such a weird thing as some kids develop early others late, academics, living up to potential, working hard, so there are a ton of variables.

There are always hits and misses but from what I saw on the field last year and assuming these kids develop (cus the talent is there) than I believe last years class will be a very good one. Kill and staff have done a good job developing and/or finding the right places for kids (Carter & Wells). It's still early for the 2012 class but like I said I like what I see!
 

They played quite well compared to who? Sure they got on the field but I wasn't impressed with any other than rod Williams. All big ten teams had freshmen last year. We were not unique in that regard.
 

Grant said:
They played quite well compared to who? Sure they got on the field but I wasn't impressed with any other than rod Williams. All big ten teams had freshmen last year. We were not unique in that regard.
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You are more than welcome to your opinion but IMO Nelson played pretty well, especially considering the issues we had with our O-Line. I also think that Plsek had a nice year as a blocking TE. Additionally, although not a freshman, Martez Shabazz did some nice things in coverage. Overall, I think the freshman that did play had a good, not great, year.
 


Grant said:
They played quite well compared to who? Sure they got on the field but I wasn't impressed with any other than rod Williams. All big ten teams had freshmen last year. We were not unique in that regard.
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We had 11, who had more or relatively the same amount and what significant impact did they have? We played a True Freshman QB and RB for half the season and made it to a bowl game! We hadn't been to a bowl game in what 3 years or something. Come on you guys give credit where credit is due. You don't see a ton of TRUE freshman making big impacts no matter where they play (btw we never stated they were lighting it up) but for Minnesota standards especially, they played quite well.
 

I am in the stars matter camp, however I think people should go on record and say which recruits they aren't a fan of if they are going to criticize a class.
 

BTW how many teams started a True Freshman QB in a bowl game this year? Anybody Know, serious question? I would venture a guess that it's under a handful.
 

FWAA names an all freshmen team. We had nobody make it. 4 other B1G teams were represented. Granted it is about half redshirt freshmen and half true freshmen. Phil Steele does a first and second team (56 total players). No gophers.
 

Wouldn't You like to Know said:
BTW how many teams started a True Freshman QB in a bowl game this year? Anybody Know, serious question? I would venture a guess that it's under a handful.
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The below is a reply to a thread that posted an article ranking all of the bowl's QB's:


I have no problem with the list, but I find it refreshing that there is only ONE other true frosh QB starting. That QB is Reynolds that starts for Navy, and he's only 9 spots above Nelson. Is a Navy QB really a QB?
 

Grant said:
FWAA names an all freshmen team. We had nobody make it. 4 other B1G teams were represented. Granted it is about half redshirt freshmen and half true freshmen. Phil Steele does a first and second team (56 total players). No gophers.
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You're right, Nelson was no good because he didn't have the year Manziel and Mariota did. Williams was crap because Gurley and Yeldon outplayed him. Funchess and Carter were better than Plsek so he was no good.
 

Grant said:
FWAA names an all freshmen team. We had nobody make it. 4 other B1G teams were represented. Granted it is about half redshirt freshmen and half true freshmen. Phil Steele does a first and second team (56 total players). No gophers.
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Thanks for the info, that's great!

Would you expect a Gopher True FR to be considered? I wouldn't, and that's not the point we're making especially when you take into account that they are including RS FR.

We are just saying that people all on this board seem to be devaluing the 2012 group. My sole intent was to make it clear that I think it's going to be a very good group and we do have SOME proof and a lot of hope considering the examples I've given in my previous posts.
 

OddStack said:
The below is a reply to a thread that posted an article ranking all of the bowl's QB's:


I have no problem with the list, but I find it refreshing that there is only ONE other true frosh QB starting. That QB is Reynolds that starts for Navy, and he's only 9 spots above Nelson. Is a Navy QB really a QB?
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Nice, I knew it had to be rare! Now couple that with all of the other TRUE Freshman we had playing and the signs are all pointing in the right direction.
 

Let's keep this thread about recruiting updates. If someone wants to debate how last year's freshman performed, please start a new thread.
 


John Galt said:
Let's keep this thread about recruiting updates. If someone wants to debate how last year's freshman performed, please start a new thread.
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You are right, I apologize for my part in the deviation from the thread topic.
 

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