Norwood Teague: “I’d love to play North Dakota State"

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Vitojr130 said:
This is 100% true. I graduated high school in 2009 and about 50% of my class (who proceeded to achieve a post-secondary education) went to NDSU, 20% went to MSUM, 10% went to M-State Fergus Falls, 10% went to the U, 5% went to Concordia - Moorhead, and 5% went elsewhere. Graduating class was roughly 140 and was within a 60 mile radius of Fargo.

The only place where people would die to go/play for the U is in the cities. That's it. Most of the state outside of the cities will cheer for the U for almost every game, but are rarely in a "OMG MY GOPHERS BETTER NOT LOSE LEL" state of mind.

Now if we were to talk about the Vikings, all of MN, ND, and SD would be crying for them to win...
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Of course more went to those schools. They are closer, and a lot easier to get accepted to. All my friends that went to those schools were still fans of the Gophers, except in hockey for the ones that went to UND.

And an example of a NW town caring about the U is when Mollberg from Detroit Lakes was being recruited by the Gophers. The whole town was talking about when the coaches came to town to watch him work out. Everyone was buzzing about the possibility of him playing for the U. When the U cooled on him, all the talk died down.
 

Vitojr130 said:
This is 100% true. I graduated high school in 2009 and about 50% of my class (who proceeded to achieve a post-secondary education) went to NDSU, 20% went to MSUM, 10% went to M-State Fergus Falls, 10% went to the U, 5% went to Concordia - Moorhead, and 5% went elsewhere. Graduating class was roughly 140 and was within a 60 mile radius of Fargo.

The only place where people would die to go/play for the U is in the cities. That's it. Most of the state outside of the cities will cheer for the U for almost every game, but are rarely in a "OMG MY GOPHERS BETTER NOT LOSE LEL" state of mind.

Now if we were to talk about the Vikings, all of MN, ND, and SD would be crying for them to win...
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100% true? No, it's not. What your class did is does not necessarily represent the region as a whole.
 

RodentRampage said:
100% true? No, it's not. What your class did is does not necessarily represent the region as a whole.
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He's right. I grew up an hour northeast of Fargo and you were either a Bison fan or a Sioux fan. The college attendance percentages are pretty similar to my HS as well.

1997 Final 4 run was the only time I recall the town buzzing about anything Gopher related.
 

Outside of hockey, the NW region of MN is basically a non-factor. I'd love them as fans (I have friends from Morehead that are big Gophers fans by the way) but if they want to align themselves with glorified club teams...have at it (yes they beat the Gophers a couple of times, and proud we are of all of them).
 

DLguy said:
I could care less if we play NDSU. We would kick the crap out of them no matter what, so I am not worried. But I would rather not hear a year of "we are gonna beat you guys, look out" from that annoying fanbase.
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Really........:rolleyes:
 



RodentRampage said:
100% true? No, it's not. What your class did is does not necessarily represent the region as a whole.
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Says the guy from Minneapolis.

Yes, it is true. Live up here for 22 years of your life and you would realize that the U of M might as well be Iowa State or something. I personally guarantee that my class is not an outlier. It is the same sentiment throughout a majority of outstate MN. Sad, but true. I'm not saying that we aren't Gopher fans, as 99% of the time we would cheer for the Gophs over most everyone. However, we don't die to attend the U. It's not a "my grandpa, dad, and now myself went/will go to the U" kind of thing up here.
 

Funny, I live in Roseau. And concerning college football, very few are Bison fans over Gopher fans. UND however...
 

kisarazu said:
Funny, I live in Roseau. And concerning college football, very few are Bison fans over Gopher fans. UND however...
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My point was that the U isn't the coveted university of outstate MN. My school was closer to NDSU, therefore most went to NDSU over UND. I can imagine more people would go to UND the closer you get to it... Regardless, the U isn't on most people's radar as it is in the cities...
 



I live in the grand forks area. There is as much MN gear in area as there is ndsu gear. But with und here that really should not be a surprise.

i know that most of the area college student athletes that we have hired have some resentment on how the U did, or did not, recruit them. Generally they are big kids and realize that they just were not at the level necessary to play in the big ten. But being competitors they all seem to have that "what if."

There are pockets of big bison. Mahnomen is bison land going way back to at least the 1970s. Whole families not just a player or two have filled the ranks of bison teams.

I gre up down the road from, and my wife is from, argyle. While there are a few notable connections to ndsu, mostly due to farm college degrees, and not sports, I would say argyle is fairly wide open between colleges. It may in fact if any thing that area has a current bend towards bemidji since a lot of area kids have been going in that direction. Since I can easily remember a Warren MN kid playing for the U in football it is my belief that there no predisposition one way or another.

I remember there was some short lived, silly resentment in EGF when the EGF kid who won mr football that year was not even really looked at by the U. He went to ndsu on scholarship and did not do all that much. So that sort do shut up the locals.
 

Vitojr130 said:
Says the guy from Minneapolis.

Yes, it is true. Live up here for 22 years of your life and you would realize that the U of M might as well be Iowa State or something. I personally guarantee that my class is not an outlier. It is the same sentiment throughout a majority of outstate MN. Sad, but true. I'm not saying that we aren't Gopher fans, as 99% of the time we would cheer for the Gophs over most everyone. However, we don't die to attend the U. It's not a "my grandpa, dad, and now myself went/will go to the U" kind of thing up here.
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Yes, I live in Minneapolis. However, I grew up in Northwestern Minnesota (Erskine) and still get there quite readily. You can guarantee anything you like, it doesn't mean anything. Perhaps they aren't dying to attend the U, but the U is nowhere near as alien to the people of outstate Minnesota as you seem to think
 


Why are we discussing whether fans that live on the ND/MN border choose to cheer for a D2 team over a Big Ten team? Who cares. Unless they attend the actual game they can't even see their favorite team play on Saturdays! And why would their wins over essentially a couple Tim Brewster created teams mean anything; South Dakota beat the Fighting Brewsters as well! I do think we should put them on the schedule once more now that we appear to have a team worthy of playing in the Big Ten; kick the crap out of them and then not have to hear about D2 championships from now until eternity.

And let's be real, the only thing keeping a team in that crap town relevant is the fact that the head coach can't leave because nobody else will hire a guy that was fuc&ing a bunch of 18 yr old co-eds. NDSU will sweep it under the rug but no D1 university will hire him. He'd be long gone otherwise.
 




sonnygarcia said:
Why are we discussing whether fans that live on the ND/MN border choose to cheer for a D2 team over a Big Ten team? Who cares. Unless they attend the actual game they can't even see their favorite team play on Saturdays! And why would their wins over essentially a couple Tim Brewster created teams mean anything; South Dakota beat the Fighting Brewsters as well! I do think we should put them on the schedule once more now that we appear to have a team worthy of playing in the Big Ten; kick the crap out of them and then not have to hear about D2 championships from now until eternity.
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Nearly all of the Bison games are on TV, either ESPN2, ESPN3 or more frequently the Fargo NBC station which places like Detroit Lakes and Fergus Falls get. I was pretty excited when that 2011 "Tim Brewster created team" beat Iowa and nearly beat USC.
 

AO54 said:
Nearly all of the Bison games are on TV, either ESPN2, ESPN3 or more frequently the Fargo NBC station which places like Detroit Lakes and Fergus Falls get. I was pretty excited when that 2011 "Tim Brewster created team" beat Iowa and nearly beat USC.
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How'd you feel when the got beat at home by NMSU? Or lost 58-0 in Michigan?
 

AO54 said:
Nearly all of the Bison games are on TV, either ESPN2, ESPN3 or more frequently the Fargo NBC station which places like Detroit Lakes and Fergus Falls get. I was pretty excited when that 2011 "Tim Brewster created team" beat Iowa and nearly beat USC.
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I forgot, if they make it all the way to the D2 championship game they get to play on ESPN2, my bad. Otherwise nobody outside of Fargo knows they exist for the other 364 days of the year.
 

Breakin' The Plane said:
How'd you feel when the got beat at home by NMSU? Or lost 58-0 in Michigan?
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at least the losses to North Dakota State and Michigan were expected. New Mexico State is easily the worst loss of Kill's career.
 


Norwood Teague: “I’d love to play North Dakota State"

LITTLEGUYSINGREEN said:
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt12.htm

Sagarin says otherwise.
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What top half FBS team have you beaten? You beat a crappy Kansas team 6-3 and a crappy Minnesota team.

Beat a top half team and then talk. I couldn't care less about Sagarin.

Beat Iowa (if that game even stays on the schedule). Heck, make the Kansas State game remotely competitive and I may change my stance.
 

afurry91 said:
Heck, make the Kansas State game remotely competitive and I may change my stance.
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I'm willing to bet they do because that is what early season Kansas State does.

Last year: 16-9 heading into the 4th quarter against (3-8) Missouri State before exploding for 35 4th quarter points http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?id=322452306

2011: Beat a 7-5 Eastern Kentucky team 10-7. Kansas State scored the winning TD with 1:39 left in the game. http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?id=312462306

2009: Beat 5-6 Massachusetts 21-17. http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?id=292482306
 

afurry91 said:
What top half FBS team have you beaten? You beat a crappy Kansas team 6-3 and a crappy Minnesota team. As opposed to a good one?

Beat a top half team and then talk. I couldn't care less about Sagarin. Why? Too accurate for you?

Beat Iowa (if that game even stays on the schedule). Heck, make the Kansas State game remotely competitive and I may change my stance.
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I'll be back Labor Day Weekend. ;)
 

GopherInPittsburgh said:
I'm willing to bet they do because that is what early season Kansas State does.

Last year: 16-9 heading into the 4th quarter against (3-8) Missouri State before exploding for 35 4th quarter points http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?id=322452306

2011: Beat a 7-5 Eastern Kentucky team 10-7. Kansas State scored the winning TD with 1:39 left in the game. http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?id=312462306

2009: Beat 5-6 Massachusetts 21-17. http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?id=292482306
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We've been told KSU keeps it very vanilla in the non-conference games. This time it very well come back to bite them in the arse.
 

And let's be real, the only thing keeping a team in that crap town relevant is the fact that the head coach can't leave because nobody else will hire a guy that was fuc&ing a bunch of 18 yr old co-eds. NDSU will sweep it under the rug but no D1 university will hire him. He'd be long gone otherwise.[/QUOTE]

in Madison they make you the AD.
 

If NDSU and UNI want to play Iowa, Minnesota, and Wisconsin, move up to FBS

As good regional match-ups than they need to put there money where there mouths are and step up to
FBS football and join an FBS conference like the Mountain West or CUSA. Pay for a full 85 scholarships, and the travel and play against teams with the same physical cost's on a weekly basis. It is easy to be a Big fish in a little pond, we could play there role quite well if we played the same level of competition on a weekly basis. It is far easier to beat an opponent on a one or two shot deal than it is to have to beat the same conference teams every year week after week. They want to be FBS than pay up and play the game to play who you want to otherwise leave us alone. Were not obligated to play NDSU by any means, but if they were FBS I don't think the Gophers would shoot it down.

I agree with the Big tens decision as a conference, they regionl FCS teams want to play us than move up to FBS level, otherwise it is a moot point
and the discussion is wasted. The only thing we gain by playing NDSU is the opportunity for Gopher fans to scalp
tickets or a near sell-out gate, beyond that there is very little to gain by helping boost there programs profile. The guarantee that the Gophers will play NDSU again is laughable, because there is no shot they are moving up to FBS level. Beyond football they would have a tough time finding a conference they could be competitive as an entire athletic program cost wise.
 

sonnygarcia said:
Why are we discussing whether fans that live on the ND/MN border choose to cheer for a D2 team over a Big Ten team? Who cares. Unless they attend the actual game they can't even see their favorite team play on Saturdays! And why would their wins over essentially a couple Tim Brewster created teams mean anything; South Dakota beat the Fighting Brewsters as well! I do think we should put them on the schedule once more now that we appear to have a team worthy of playing in the Big Ten; kick the crap out of them and then not have to hear about D2 championships from now until eternity.

And let's be real, the only thing keeping a team in that crap town relevant is the fact that the head coach can't leave because nobody else will hire a guy that was fuc&ing a bunch of 18 yr old co-eds. NDSU will sweep it under the rug but no D1 university will hire him. He'd be long gone otherwise.
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lolwut?

1) Why is Fargo a crap town?
2) Where do you get this idea that Bohl is banging a bunch of 18 year old co-eds?

It makes me smile knowing other fanbases have lakesbison-ish style fans.

Anyway, I like it when NDSU plays MN because it gives NDSU a chance to prove that it belongs at the next level. Maybe not at the B1G level, but it would certainly fit in the MAC scene. It's a tremendous boost to the program beating a team like the Gophers who have 7 titles at the highest tier of college football. It was really fun seeing my two favorite college football teams playing against each other and it sucks knowing that it won't happen again unless NDSU gets invited to a conference (and accepts).
 

afurry91 said:
What top half FBS team have you beaten? You beat a crappy Kansas team 6-3 and a crappy Minnesota team.

Beat a top half team and then talk. I couldn't care less about Sagarin.

Beat Iowa (if that game even stays on the schedule). Heck, make the Kansas State game remotely competitive and I may change my stance.
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Watch it on Aug. 30th then. In fact, Fox is creating a new sports network to compete with ESPN and chose this game to be one of the first to debut on the new network because it pits a National Champion against a highly ranked FBS opponent. NDSU may not win this game, but it's not going to be as distant as you think.
 

gopherdudepart2 said:
As good regional match-ups than they need to put there money where there mouths are and step up to
FBS football and join an FBS conference like the Mountain West or CUSA. Pay for a full 85 scholarships, and the travel and play against teams with the same physical cost's on a weekly basis. It is easy to be a Big fish in a little pond, we could play there role quite well if we played the same level of competition on a weekly basis. It is far easier to beat an opponent on a one or two shot deal than it is to have to beat the same conference teams every year week after week. They want to be FBS than pay up and play the game to play who you want to otherwise leave us alone. Were not obligated to play NDSU by any means, but if they were FBS I don't think the Gophers would shoot it down.

I agree with the Big tens decision as a conference, they regionl FCS teams want to play us than move up to FBS level, otherwise it is a moot point
and the discussion is wasted. The only thing we gain by playing NDSU is the opportunity for Gopher fans to scalp
tickets or a near sell-out gate, beyond that there is very little to gain by helping boost there programs profile. The guarantee that the Gophers will play NDSU again is laughable, because there is no shot they are moving up to FBS level. Beyond football they would have a tough time finding a conference they could be competitive as an entire athletic program cost wise.
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What are you talking about? If the Gophers were consistently a decent team, they would have a lot to gain. By that, I mean they get to put an easy (or what is SUPPOSED to be an easy) win on their schedule. You can't tell me or anyone with any sort of IQ that a W is bad.
 

Vitojr130 said:
1) Why is Fargo a crap town?
2) Where do you get this idea that Bohl is banging a bunch of 18 year old co-eds?
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1) Because it's in North Dakota and it's a floodplain.

2) You obviously don't follow your team very closely (or you're a new comer) or this wouldn't come as a shock to you.
 

A W against NDSU would be no more meaningful than a win against New Hampshire

Vitojr130 said:
What are you talking about? If the Gophers were consistently a decent team, they would have a lot to gain. By that, I mean they get to put an easy (or what is SUPPOSED to be an easy) win on their schedule. You can't tell me or anyone with any sort of IQ that a W is bad.
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It is the same type of win against the same type of opponent FCS, neither meaningful in the grand scheme of winning Big 10 conference games. Neither type of win helps the Gophers compete in the Big 10 conference and you can only count FCS wins towards bowl eligibility every other season. Gophers gain very little in playing NDSU except the possibility of a Win. Playing NDSU helps shine spotlight on NDSU program and there fans with more national TV exposure, why should we bother. Giving exposure to NDSU football to Minnesota kids also hurts the Minnsota walk-on program.

The Gophers are not obligated to help NDSU out by giving them a game period. This is a moot point, it is not like NDSU is going to go full division one anytime soon, so there is no point in debating this, the teams simply are not going to play each other.
You are right about one thing if the Gophers were decent, and have reasonable success 2007 and 2011 don't exist.
 

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