NBA Draft - Where/which Gophers will get Drafted?

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HOOP DREAMS said:
@WojYahooNBA: Univ. of Minnesota forward Rodney Williams has agreed to a free agent deal with the Philadelphia 76ers"

Anyone know the terms of the deal (if it has been announced) or have an idea of what it might be?
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Just a spot on their summer league roster, it's not like he's going to be a part of their regular season roster.
 

Just might be a numbers game on one specific team. Say Colt didnt get drafted. He could see if there is interest from a team needing a backup center. Or getting drafted in the second by a team like Okahoma with a very deep roster is probably a good and bad thing for this reason.
 

HOOP DREAMS said:
Why would a team draft you and own your rights if they didn't think you were a great fit? Makes no sense.
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The perspective of an outsider who follows the Gophers from out of state, but doesn't get to see them play all the time:

Mbakwe
"Mbakwe hurt himself with too many nights where his motor was stuck in neutral. And if you're an undersized PF already. That said, I'd take a flyer on him. Because when he's playing hard, he gets his hands on the ball."

On the Mbakwe/Williams/Sampson vs. Wolters/Muscala/Iverson NBA dynamic
"It's interesting regarding the final days of the Tubby era. Three guys who, arguably, didn't play up to their potential (Williams, Mbakwe and Sampson) favored over three guys with motors who were noticed by the NBA. Hmmmm."

And a little on Tommy Crean
"Also, interesting is Indiana's late-season flameout ... featuring two of the top four picks in the draft. Wonder if boy wonder will bring that up next time he talks about how "down" the Hoosiers were when he took over?"
 


dinkytowndelight13 said:
Rodney Williams to sign with the Philadelphia 76ers!
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He has a chance to catch on as a defensive stooper, never going to see big minutes but might make it as a role player, Trevor's injury made all the difference, he is probably going to have to look overseas.


Draft day is another indicator of why the Tubby era was so frustrating, players with ability for whatever reason just didn't develop.
 

i watched the entire full length 5 hour draft from 6:30 to 11:30 for nothing!!
 


Ron Johnson Super Fan said:
Time will tell and I hope Mbakwe makes it but I doubt it. Guys like Trevor are a dime a dozen at the next level. Not quite big enough for the type of game he has. If he were a bit more polished offensively it would help.
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With his rebounding ability and energy I kind of envision him being a little like Kenneth Farried for Denver.
 













Bill Simmons just sounds unprofessional, he uses the word "like" too much and some of his reactions were just unprofessional when anthony bennett went #1 or the Jrue Holiday trade he would go "what!!" or "Jrue Holiday!?!?" while the other guys might have been surprised they didnt make those types of reactions, you can tell Simmons hasn't been on TV for too long
 

die hard gopher said:
Bill Simmons just sounds unprofessional, he uses the word "like" too much and some of his reactions were just unprofessional when anthony bennett went #1 or the Jrue Holiday trade he would go "what!!" or "Jrue Holiday!?!?" while the other guys might have been surprised they didnt make those types of reactions, you can tell Simmons hasn't been on TV for too long
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It's those type of reactions that make the draft more watchable. It was surprising. Bill Simmons tells it like it is.
 

Gopher Warrior said:
Applies for a couple of weeks in April; that's it. Door closed for those guys to return to school long ago.
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Age does not matter much in late in second round...if they think you are a lock to make team they will take you even if you are an aged 24 years old!
 

Goldy Gopher said:
With his rebounding ability and energy I kind of envision him being a little like Kenneth Farried for Denver.
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They have similar games, but Faried was just a lot more productive in his senior year. He averaged 17.3 ppg and 14.5 rpg. Compare that to Mbakwe at 10.0 & 8.7. Faried was number 1 in both offensive rebounding percentage and defensive rebounding percentage at 19.9 and 31.6%. Mbakwe was very good at 15.7 and 24.3, but he wasn't top 10 in either category. Faried also had an 8.8% block %, whereas Mbakwe was at 6.7%. Faried was doubled Mbakwe's steal percentage at 3.4%, good for 106th in the country, further cementing his reputation for a high-motor guy.

Then you add in the fact that on draft night Faried was over 2 years younger than Mbakwe was on his draft night. In fact, Faried was actually born 10 months after Mbakwe.

Lastly, I'm sure Mbakwe's past was a little worrisome to NBA GMs.
 

justthefacts said:
They have similar games, but Faried was just a lot more productive in his senior year. He averaged 17.3 ppg and 14.5 rpg. Compare that to Mbakwe at 10.0 & 8.7. Faried was number 1 in both offensive rebounding percentage and defensive rebounding percentage at 19.9 and 31.6%. Mbakwe was very good at 15.7 and 24.3, but he wasn't top 10 in either category. Faried also had an 8.8% block %, whereas Mbakwe was at 6.7%. Faried was doubled Mbakwe's steal percentage at 3.4%, good for 106th in the country, further cementing his reputation for a high-motor guy.

Then you add in the fact that on draft night Faried was over 2 years younger than Mbakwe was on his draft night. In fact, Faried was actually born 10 months after Mbakwe.

Lastly, I'm sure Mbakwe's past was a little worrisome to NBA GMs.
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Comparing raw numbers is kind of meaningless in this case, as Faried played in one of the worst DI basketball conferences in the country. I'm certain Mbakwe could've put up similar numbers playing in the OVC.

That being said, I agree that Faried is a far better pro player than Mbakwe ever would or could be.
 

SelectionSunday said:
The perspective of an outsider who follows the Gophers from out of state, but doesn't get to see them play all the time:

Mbakwe
"Mbakwe hurt himself with too many nights where his motor was stuck in neutral. And if you're an undersized PF already. That said, I'd take a flyer on him. Because when he's playing hard, he gets his hands on the ball."

On the Mbakwe/Williams/Sampson vs. Wolters/Muscala/Iverson NBA dynamic
"It's interesting regarding the final days of the Tubby era. Three guys who, arguably, didn't play up to their potential (Williams, Mbakwe and Sampson) favored over three guys with motors who were noticed by the NBA. Hmmmm."

And a little on Tommy Crean
"Also, interesting is Indiana's late-season flameout ... featuring two of the top four picks in the draft. Wonder if boy wonder will bring that up next time he talks about how "down" the Hoosiers were when he took over?"
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The draft outcome adds to the mystery of how the Hoosiers managed to avoid winning the national title.
 

SelectionSunday said:
Not to mention,

South Dakota State 1
Minnesota 0

Bucknell 1
Minnesota 0

To be clear, I never criticized Tubby for not recruiting Wolters or Muscala, who both turned out to be fantastic & then draftable college players. Not sure a lotta' people saw that coming. Nevertheless, it's difficult not to notice a pair of Minnesota kids from smaller schools heard their names called on NBA Draft Night while a pair of more highly regarded/recruited Gophers went undrafted.
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CJ McCollum and Trey Burke were both Ohio products who turned out to be lottery picks that OSU didn't offer, but nobody is sitting back and saying OSU doesn't know what they're doing in recruiting. Some guys are underrated and others are really late bloomers, you can't expect a coach to get every late bloomer or every underrated player who might be promising from in-state. Easy to criticize with the benefit of hindsight. If you thought they should've been offered before they started starring in college maybe you'd have an argument.
 

Bad Gopher said:
The draft outcome adds to the mystery of how the Hoosiers managed to avoid winning the national title.
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It's hard to win the NC. Even harder when you have players not playing their best ball in March (Hulls, Ferrell, Watford) and an undersized backcourt duo that isn't very good.
 

Not sure if this has been posted this morning, but this was tweeted by @JakePavorsky:

Sixers have extended a Summer League invite to Minnesota PF Trevor Mbakwe. Has a few offers on table. Would imagine Sixers are frontrunners.
 

OSUfan said:
CJ McCollum and Trey Burke were both Ohio products who turned out to be lottery picks that OSU didn't offer, but nobody is sitting back and saying OSU doesn't know what they're doing in recruiting. Some guys are underrated and others are really late bloomers, you can't expect a coach to get every late bloomer or every underrated player who might be promising from in-state. Easy to criticize with the benefit of hindsight. If you thought they should've been offered before they started starring in college maybe you'd have an argument.
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People aren't criticizing OSU for missing on those two guys because OSU has been so successful and has players drafted pretty much every year. You can't really compare that to the Gophers, who haven't had a player drafted since Humphries and haven't been over .500 in the BIG since '05.

But I think the point of that post was that Tubby did a terrible job of developing players.
 

taskforce said:
People aren't criticizing OSU for missing on those two guys because OSU has been so successful and has players drafted pretty much every year. You can't really compare that to the Gophers, who haven't had a player drafted since Humphries and haven't been over .500 in the BIG since '05.

But I think the point of that post was that Tubby did a terrible job of developing players.
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It was up to Tubby to hire Assistants to lead in player development. Tubby was NOT the only one who did a relatively poor job of developing players, so were his Assistants.

I look for Coach Pitino and his Staff to do a much better job of player development.
 

OSUfan said:
CJ McCollum and Trey Burke were both Ohio products who turned out to be lottery picks that OSU didn't offer, but nobody is sitting back and saying OSU doesn't know what they're doing in recruiting. Some guys are underrated and others are really late bloomers, you can't expect a coach to get every late bloomer or every underrated player who might be promising from in-state. Easy to criticize with the benefit of hindsight. If you thought they should've been offered before they started starring in college maybe you'd have an argument.
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+1

And Trey Burke at least had other good offers. Mike Muscala and Nate Wolters had no high major offers and were unrated on Rivals, and they were part of the 2009 class in which we took Royce White (5-star), Rodney Williams (4-star), and Trevor Mbakwe (surprisingly only a 3-star, but still higher rated than Muscala and Wolters). I really don't think anyone would have been happy at the time with us taking those guys over Rodney, Royce, or Trevor. Can anyone show me a thread from before the start of the 2009-10 season saying that we should have offered Nate Wolters and Mike Muscala instead of the players we ended up with, just to prove that this isn't 20/20 hindsight talking?
 

Cayman said:
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And Trey Burke at least had other good offers. Mike Muscala and Nate Wolters had no high major offers and were unrated on Rivals, and they were part of the 2009 class in which we took Royce White (5-star), Rodney Williams (4-star), and Trevor Mbakwe (surprisingly only a 3-star, but still higher rated than Muscala and Wolters). I really don't think anyone would have been happy at the time with us taking those guys over Rodney, Royce, or Trevor. Can anyone show me a thread from before the start of the 2009-10 season saying that we should have offered Nate Wolters and Mike Muscala instead of the players we ended up with, just to prove that this isn't 20/20 hindsight talking?
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True -- but I still don't think that is the point. Whether it was Tubby, Tubby's staff, or whomever....either the assessments at the time these kids were evaluated in high school was wrong or the last regime did a poor job of developing talent. When less talented kids (again, assuming the assessments were correct at the time) go elsewhere and develop further than the more talented kids that went to the University, I think to question the last regime is fair.
 

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