MN HS Basketball 2024-25 Season thread

[cheeseheadgophfan]

Sorry, I should have not meant that you were one way or another. From what I heard they left without shaking hands because the crowd was getting nasty. Best to get out of there in a hurry which may have been the different between a bad situation and a horrible situation.

I could be wrong, but it looked to me like the court was pretty empty until the players got toward the locker room. In fact, there were at least a couple of players from both teams, shaking hands and hugging before the chaos started… I’ve played and I’ve coached games that were that intense, and a lot of times the handshake line allows for just enough time to cool off.

 

[cheeseheadgophfan]

Hopkins 77 Wayzata 76: Five Things to Know - Prep Hoops

We break down all of the controversy right now after watching not only the game, but the numerous videos that have circulated around the local social media showcasing some of the things that did happen. One (A). Jayden. totaled 17 points, 12 rebounds, and 10 assists. I think his ball pressure...

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This seems to be a pretty good summary. But I’ll also defend the refs on the last non-call. The fact that the author says he's seen it from six different angles is the perfect example of the difference between reffing in real time versus watching with all kinds of replays. If you watch it at full speed, it’s a bang bang play in a difficult call to make either way.

 

[maroonfive]

Aren't they in the same section? It could be interesting going forward.

 

[WoodburyTim]

I could be wrong, but it looked to me like the court was pretty empty until the players got toward the locker room. In fact, there were at least a couple of players from both teams, shaking hands and hugging before the chaos started… I’ve played and I’ve coached games that were that intense, and a lot of times the handshake line allows for just enough time to cool off.

I don’t know if that is why they went after the Wayzata players but even it were, the lack of a hand shake line is hardly justification for hundreds of students to follow 12 guys off the floor. Lucky that it didn’t escalate.

 

[gopher7]

I don’t know if that is why they went after the Wayzata players but even it were, the lack of a hand shake line is hardly justification for hundreds of students to follow 12 guys off the floor. Lucky that it didn’t escalate.

I only saw the highlights on twitter but from what I saw, #3 from Hopkins immediately went to the Wayzata bench after the missed shot to taunt them. Perhaps the Wayzata coach felt like he was preventing a fight by not doing handshakes, and if that was his reason then I would support that.

Anyway, High School sports crowds today are a sad reflection on where we are as a society. It's no surprise events like this happen when you see how they (espeically student sections, & parents) act. I didn't see the game outside of a few highlights so I'm not saying any Wayzata folks don't hold blame, but it should be a no brainer to suspend every Hopkins student who ran on the floor after the game to confront the Wayzata players. Like, aboslutely no hesitation, suspend them. We know there will likely be no punishment for them though, and thus these things will continue.

 

[Minnesconsin fan]

I believe Damian Johnson is the coach at Benilde-St. Margaret's, and previously he was the coach at North St. Paul where he made them a solid team. I wonder if he will stick to coaching at the highschool level or try to move up to college teams? If so, whoever is the next Gopher's coach should look into adding Damian as an assistant.

I chatted with DJ a couple of years ago and he was very interested in moving to the college game. But it gets to be a big decision with a young family. The recruiting life is a tough one.
I saw him at the St Thomas game Saturday and made small talk about his team's success and a couple of individual players but didn't think to ask about career goals.

 

[LesBolstad]

Ridiculous calling out the ref on that play. Sure, it could have been called but like another poster indicated the ref would be criticized either way. I've reffed hundreds of high school and D3 college games and I would definitely go no call on that play and situation

 

[MaxyJR1]

Sounds like Wayzata has made some internal coach suspensions, including the head coach for the next game.

 

[MaxyJR1]

Ridiculous calling out the ref on that play. Sure, it could have been called but like another poster indicated the ref would be criticized either way. I've reffed hundreds of high school and D3 college games and I would definitely go no call on that play and situation

That call was a 50/50 call and I agree it was not egregious. Sounds like the assistant coaches and head coaches were an issue all game.

 

[HitMeAgainIAmStillMoving]

Ridiculous calling out the ref on that play. Sure, it could have been called but like another poster indicated the ref would be criticized either way. I've reffed hundreds of high school and D3 college games and I would definitely go no call on that play and situation

Kudos for being a ref. Are you on some sort of community service sentence?

 

[balds]

For those interested in ditching the current section set up:

Current top seeds in each section (AAAA), based on QRF score, which MSHL uses in the seeding process.

Section 6: 1 Hopkins, 3 Wayzata

Section 4: 3 Cretin, 7 Tartan, 8 East Ridge

Section 2: 4 Prior Lake, 5 Shakopee, 9 Minnetonka

Section 5: 6 Champlin Park, 13 Maple Grove

Section 3: 10 Apple Valley, 19 Eagan

Section 7: 12 Anoka, 29 Blaine

Section 8: 11 STMA. 14 Sauk Rapids/Rice

Section 1: 16 Lakeville South, 18 Rochester John Marshall

Basketball

www.minnesota-scores.net

 

[MaxyJR1]

For those interested in ditching the current section set up:

Current top seeds in each section (AAAA), based on QRF score, which MSHL uses in the seeding process.

Section 6: 1 Hopkins, 3 Wayzata

Section 4: 3 Cretin, 7 Tartan, 8 East Ridge

Section 2: 4 Prior Lake, 5 Shakopee, 9 Minnetonka

Section 5: 6 Champlin Park, 13 Maple Grove

Section 3: 10 Apple Valley, 19 Eagan

Section 7: 12 Anoka, 29 Blaine

Section 8: 11 STMA. 14 Sauk Rapids/Rice

Section 1: 16 Lakeville South, 18 Rochester John Marshall

Basketball

www.minnesota-scores.net

It's MSHSL not MSHL (Not sure why this bothers me) and Sections decide how they set up seeding. MSHSL has nothing to do with section seeding. Most sections use a Coaches vote. For example the Centennial Girls team (Situation where a player transferred in and her old school had it out for her, stalking her living situation) had to forfeit a bunch of games so their seeding will not match their record.

I like the set up and IMO State means representative of the whole state of MN. I'd be open to possibly expanding to 16 with top 2 from each section, but I wouldn't go 1-64.

 

[disco]

It's MSHSL not MSHL (Not sure why this bothers me) and Sections decide how they set up seeding. MSHSL has nothing to do with section seeding. Most sections use a Coaches vote. For example the Centennial Girls team (Situation where a player transferred in and her old school had it out for her, stalking her living situation) had to forfeit a bunch of games so their seeding will not match their record.

What was the deal with this?

 

[MaxyJR1]

What was the deal with this?

Bad, toxic situation for possibly the best player in the program. If true, I don't know how the coach is still the coach. (Other players didn't even go out because of the coach) She transferred to Centennial and played in games and was reported to MSHSL. Sounds like people were literally taking pictures of living situations to report it.

I used to be a big community program person and hated the transfer rules, but I truly believe students/players should be able to go to schools they are welcome and want to go. Too many situations like this happen when AD's don't do what they are hired to do.